Wardrobe consulting

[RichardTheFrog]

Just got done with my wardrobe consulting appointment at the mall.

I think I'm over-dressing my personality at this point. What's the point of getting all dressed up to not talk to anyone?

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She said her friend is a photographer and has a cheaper rate than the guy I was going to. She even offered to be there free of charge to show me how to pose.

I walked around with this girl (age 22), and we talked about various things. She was interested in what I did for a living.

She would have liked if I had traveled to more places, spoke a second language, and if I was "the boss" at my job rather than doing much of the work myself. (These are just things I took away from our conversations that would have come across better).

Also, it became obvious that if you're going to connect with a girl, you need to be able to relate to her outside of her false front she puts on in order to socialize and go to her job, etc. This is why a lot of girls have boyfriends they can just relax and smoke weed with, I suppose.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Next step:

Photo shoot 3/25.

I'm going to go for FUE hair transplant also, and start taking stuff to stop hair loss/thinning.

I honestly don't know if I can make myself good looking enough for hot girls to want to date for free. This is new to me because I was always called good looking growing up. Perhaps I lost some of my looks while in prison?

 

[Glassguy]

I see no point in throwing a new paint job on a new car if the motor is ready to blow and the transmission is slipping.

Its your personality that needs an over haul first. You need to learn how to TALK to people and develop a genuine ability to start conversations with anyone, including women. All of this has been said 10K times to you but you ignore it. I guess its easiest to just go buy new clothes.

Your problem is, you cant get them into the door through talking to them and making them interested in you. There is no shortcut to success.

So new clothes and new pics? That's great. But at some point you are gonna have to open that hole under your nose and talk to them. That is where your motor catches fire every time.

Oh well, you'll at least look good when you're broke down on the side of the road so to speak.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I see no point in throwing a new paint job on a new car if the motor is ready to blow and the transmission is slipping.

Its your personality that needs an over haul first. You need to learn how to TALK to people and develop a genuine ability to start conversations with anyone, including women. All of this has been said 10K times to you but you ignore it. I guess its easiest to just go buy new clothes.

Your problem is, you cant get them into the door through talking to them and making them interested in you. There is no shortcut to success.

So new clothes and new pics? That's great. But at some point you are gonna have to open that hole under your nose and talk to them. That is where your motor catches fire every time.

Oh well, you'll at least look good when you're broke down on the side of the road so to speak.

You mean like the 2 hours of conversations I had with the girl helping me pick clothes?

I can talk all day if there's something to talk about.

 

[Glassguy]

You mean like the 2 hours of conversations I had with the girl helping me pick clothes?

I can talk all day if there's something to talk about.

You seem to be able to talk to chicks when you are paying them for a service. Totally different when you are talking to chicks and interacting with them in order to get them out on a date or back to your place. The reason being is you have no fear of rejection from the chicks that you are paying because you know that you have them for a certain amount of time regardless.

That is not game.

 

[The Duke]

Frog- good job with the wardrobe consultation and the conversation that ensued. Many times all you need is a common interest(clothes) to act as a springboard for other topics(your job) which leads to having plenty of things to talk about. Keep working on your social skills.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Frog- good job with the wardrobe consultation and the conversation that ensued. Many times all you need is a common interest(clothes) to act as a springboard for other topics(your job) which leads to having plenty of things to talk about. Keep working on your social skills.

Yes, we could have all the conversations in the world about every various topic, but it doesn't lead anywhere.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You seem to be able to talk to chicks when you are paying them for a service. Totally different when you are talking to chicks and interacting with them in order to get them out on a date or back to your place. The reason being is you have no fear of rejection from the chicks that you are paying because you know that you have them for a certain amount of time regardless.

That is not game.

But 50% of our conversations had nothing to do with clothes.

But even all the "other stuff" we talked about is that pointless small talk that leads nowhere.

 

[Glassguy]

But 50% of our conversations had nothing to do with clothes.

But even all the "other stuff" we talked about is that pointless small talk that leads nowhere.

Are you really that slow in getting this?

You are paying her for services. Of course she is going to be interactive and social. You are fvcking paying her to be.

The last I checked, bad waitresses that didnt give me the prompt, friendly services of bringing me drinks and a hot meal dont get a tip. This chick is no different.

You are in la la land dude. When you pay for sex, clothing consulting, photography, ANYTHING, they are going to be nice.

Go up to a couple of random decent looking chicks and see how far your personality and ability to chat gets you....in the real world where real pick ups and dating happens. The report back.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Are you really that slow in getting this?

You are paying her for services. Of course she is going to be interactive and social. You are fvcking paying her to be.

The last I checked, bad waitresses that didnt give me the prompt, friendly services of bringing me drinks and a hot meal dont get a tip. This chick is no different.

You are in la la land dude. When you pay for sex, clothing consulting, photography, ANYTHING, they are going to be nice.

Go up to a couple of random decent looking chicks and see how far your personality and ability to chat gets you....in the real world where real pick ups and dating happens. The report back.

No she enjoyed the conversation, just like the SA girls enjoy the sex.

In this busy world, you expect someone to invest in you because of your personality? What could be that much different from yours or any other of the million people she's seen?

And as far as the "real world" is concerned... This girl barely even makes any money doing what she does. While I could make tons flipping houses.

You think "pickup" is the real world?

 

[Murk]

I like it, can't go wrong with a suit. The shoes are very nice too. If the girl offered to come and help you pose for free, maybe she likes you? Did you tell her the purpose of all this is to find a girl?

 

[guru1000]

Looking sharp in that pic Richard. Nice shirt, watch, shoes. Tailored suit. Look like a boss.

Hair needs better styling.

You are improving. Keep it up.

 

[The Duke]

Frog-

There are two things that attract Pu$$y.......money and words......there is no such thing as free Pu$$y.

It doesn't matter if its wh0res or civilians(non-wh0res). You pay wh0res with what comes out of your wallet. You pay civilians with what comes out of your mouth. Both require some form of investment to give up the pu$$y.

If you want to bang civilians you need to bring more to the table in the form of what comes out of your mouth(verbal skills). I have no doubt you can get there. You are intelligent and persistent.

The guy that gets the hottest girls and the most lays for the least amount of investment does so because he is highly effective with what comes out of his mouth thru conversation that is enjoyable and natural. It becomes a tool you use to channel that person down the path you want them to go down.

The cheapest/greatest thing you could do to improve your chances with women is to practice conversing with women. Nice suits and lamborghini's with no conversation skills will just attract gold diggers that will cost you more $$$ than any professional wh0re.

 

[Glassguy]

While I could make tons flipping houses.

But you dont. You are glued to SS all day complaining that you cant get real girls that you arent paying to give you any attention, then you rebuttal every solid piece of advice people give you.

Its a complete joke.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

But you dont. You are glued to SS all day complaining that you cant get real girls that you arent paying to give you any attention, then you rebuttal every solid piece of advice people give you.

Its a complete joke.

What about the previous 3 responses?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Looking sharp in that pic Richard. Nice shirt, watch, shoes. Tailored suit. Look like a boss.

Hair needs better styling.

You are improving. Keep it up.

She suggested this to me.

And I'm probably going to get my hairline filled in with a transplant.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I like it, can't go wrong with a suit. The shoes are very nice too. If the girl offered to come and help you pose for free, maybe she likes you? Did you tell her the purpose of all this is to find a girl?

Yes, she knew the purpose.

I have no doubt that she found me attractive at least to some extent.

 

[Murk]

Yes, she knew the purpose.

I have no doubt that she found me attractive at least to some extent.

Then did you get her number? How is she setting up the guy to take your pics for cheap?

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

No she enjoyed the conversation, just like the SA girls enjoy the sex.

In this busy world, you expect someone to invest in you because of your personality? What could be that much different from yours or any other of the million people she's seen?

And as far as the "real world" is concerned... This girl barely even makes any money doing what she does. While I could make tons flipping houses.

You think "pickup" is the real world?

Before you read this post Richard, realise I'm trying to help you here and not insult you.

Why do you keep insulting and snapping at people offering you advice? You seek validation, approval and assistance. You frequently make comments that sound like you have low self esteem like "I have a bionic d*ck, but no one wants it" and "No one wants me if I don't pay".

But then when people who ARE good with women try and help you, you mock their advice and act like you're a bigger badder alpha male than they are...moments before going back to making comments that make you sound like you're barely holding it together.

Humility, Richard. You don't have to constantly tell us all you're richer than every other man here, tougher than every other man here, more alpha than everyone because you went to prison, cleverer than everyone else...you don't have to "prove" anything. Trying to throw it all about like that is far too try-hard and gives the opposite effect.

Just be yourself, people aren't here to judge unless you are unpleasant to them. Same with women in the real world.

I fully accept that many men here are better with chicks than me. Many are in physically better shape than me. Some are richer than me at present. That doesn't make me weaker or less of a man than these people, it makes me honest.

I will often be strong in qualities these men may be lacking, and I may need to improve in areas where they are strong.

Your qualities are: you have money, you are working on business, you dress well. These are things to be proud of. The things you need to work on are your confidence, social skills and self-esteem.

No one is trying to belittle you or insult you by saying that. There is no need for the hostility.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Before you read this post Richard, realise I'm trying to help you here and not insult you.

Why do you keep insulting and snapping at people offering you advice? You seek validation, approval and assistance. You frequently make comments that sound like you have low self esteem like "I have a bionic d*ck, but no one wants it" and "No one wants me if I don't pay".

But then when people who ARE good with women try and help you, you mock their advice and act like you're a bigger badder alpha male than they are...moments before going back to making comments that make you sound like you're barely holding it together.

Humility, Richard. You don't have to constantly tell us all you're richer than every other man here, tougher than every other man here, more alpha than everyone because you went to prison, cleverer than everyone else...you don't have to "prove" anything. Trying to throw it all about like that is far too try-hard and gives the opposite effect.

Just be yourself, people aren't here to judge unless you are unpleasant to them. Same with women in the real world.

I fully accept that many men here are better with chicks than me. Many are in physically better shape than me. Some are richer than me at present. That doesn't make me weaker or less of a man than these people, it makes me honest.

I will often be strong in qualities these men may be lacking, and I may need to improve in areas where they are strong.

Your qualities are: you have money, you are working on business, you dress well. These are things to be proud of. The things you need to work on are your confidence, social skills and self-esteem.

No one is trying to belittle you or insult you by saying that. There is no need for the hostility.

Just because someone thinks they are good with women doesn't mean they actually are.

I always listen to those who I know are good.

But not everyone who thinks they are, actually is.

Dressing well and having money are the least of my qualities. But I don't feel like getting into it with you.