want your opinion/analyzes

[Park]

I wanna tell you about this one girl i met like 1½ year ago, we are best friends, almost had sex, kissing when we see etc.., we almost ended up together, but we both just wanted to be so called "friends"..,but we are more than that.

But now i have this small problem, last friday was her dances and i wanted to go there but I had the wrong time and slept over it, she called me like 2-3 times before her show, and when i called her back i was going there and wanted to surprise her (i had flowers and stuff), but for my bad she told me the bad news. I was really in a bad mood, she told me on the phone that she didnt have time to talk with me right now, thats how the phone call ended. I didn't talk to her for like a week, because i was on a bad mood and didn't really have the words and so on, (i didn't wanna be rude but it turned out that (she thinks?) that i dont need her (go on reading and u'll find out)) UNTIL TODAY her friend asks me what am i doing tonight, i told I don't know yet, haven't decided. i have couple of choices. and asked what she was doing. she told me that they are going over this girls place that i am talking about., i said like ok, cool. That's how the conversation ended. Today was USA-FIN ice-hockey, so this girl msn me and asks if i wanna join them (she and her friend) to watch ice-hockey (we hadn't been talking for a week, this just came from nowhere..) and SHE DIDN'T mention about me missing/skipping her dances that we had been talking so much and I WAS LOOKING FORWARD a LOT.. Ofc i said her that okay i am coming. She asked me to bring something to drink (alcohol mostly) but i said her okay u give me money and i will bring you. She never gave me money, i never gave her alcohol. but yes, when i went there she was just normal, talking about everyday life, what she had been doing while we haven't been talking and so on, just normal stuff we did before this case had happened.. We had so much fun, we laughed together A LOT, i broke jokes so much etc it was really fun i enjoyed it so much and so did she. she wasn't ignoring me at all or anything, she was REALLY HAPPY to see me. After like 30mins she tells me like, "I dont know what i should think about you.. You said that you would come but you didn't come. I don't feel sad, i dont know my feelings" I was like.. okay, i am really sry that i didnt come and told her why i slept over and so on. And so the story went on.. about ice-hockey etc.. then i notice this funny thing.. when the conversation keeps going on and when we have something to talk about, not just watch ice-hockey and THINK, she doesn't REMEMBER about this case, but when we have like 5min when we dont speak, she brings it up, it is like she forgets it and then somehow it just gets in her mind that she should be mad at me, but she doesn't wanna be.. it's just something that.. she should be mad. Okay so then it's time to leave, she says me something like "i hate you, but i wanted to invite you to watch ice-hockey as well", i say that's cool u saying it, but you don't really hate me. Then we usually hug etc, when i go for the hug first (MISTAKE?) she goes a few steps back (like hell no your not hugging me), but when i turn back as well, then i can see that she wants/needs the hug, so i give it to her and leave.

So what do you guys think? pros/cons? I just want to keep my relationship with this girl like it was back then. We saw like 5 times a month and everytime she was like kissing me / hugging me etc..

i am sry for my bad language, time is like 1am and i wanna get sleep.. but this was just so urgent and "cool" thing for me that i wanted to share it with you guys. Please don't make me cry with your msgs

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Its obvious you like this girl and you don't want to keep your relationship like it is.... you want it to progress.

Sounds like she's interested as well, so up the ante and start getting the ball rolling and see what happens. If she's game then you can start fuvkin' her and see what happens next. If she isn't interested then you can end this fake friendship and move on to girls who are interested in you.




PIMP

 

[Park]

Yes i like the girl, but i dont think her as a girlfriend, more likely.. "****buddy"? something like that., and i think ur right about that friendship thing.. she is playing with me, seeing how i react to what she says/does etc. thx for ur post!

 

[thecurtainfalls]

Park,

I think that currently you are giving off a vibe of "needing" the interaction with her. It seems like you are desperately trying to win her favor and handing her all of your power as a man.

I think the week where you didn't talk to her was probably a good thing. For you to get her to want to take your relationship to the next level, I think you'll have to be a little bit more of a challenge. It seems that right now she has you jumping through hoops left and right, and you are failing many of her "sh!t tests".

In a case like this, I think it can't hurt to be a bit more of a challenge.

PS: She likes ice hockey, that's a great sign since it's the best sport in the world. If the girl I'm seeing currently asked me to come watch the USA-FIN game I probably would have sh!t in my pants

 

[Park]

Park,

I think that currently you are giving off a vibe of "needing" the interaction with her. It seems like you are desperately trying to win her favor and handing her all of your power as a man.

I think the week where you didn't talk to her was probably a good thing. For you to get her to want to take your relationship to the next level, I think you'll have to be a little bit more of a challenge. It seems that right now she has you jumping through hoops left and right, and you are failing many of her "sh!t tests".

In a case like this, I think it can't hurt to be a bit more of a challenge.

PS: She likes ice hockey, that's a great sign since it's the best sport in the world. If the girl I'm seeing currently asked me to come watch the USA-FIN game I probably would have sh!t in my pants

Thanks for your comment.. Hmm.. Can you give me some specifics on It seems like "you are desperately trying to win her favor and handing her all of your power as a man." that one? and also "**** tests", i can notice the hug (i just learned from that one), but how about other things? I can see something, but i don't see them like someone from outside can see it, please advice me

So should I NOT talk to her//play hard to get.. be ignorant? I can remember times like 6months ago when i was so fking busy and didnt have any time for her (had to be ignorant) that was the time when we almost had sex and she wanted me so badly.. man i am so glad that i found this forum ))

ps2. curling is nice too, watching atm !

 

[thecurtainfalls]

Thanks for your comment.. Hmm.. Can you give me some specifics on It seems like "you are desperately trying to win her favor and handing her all of your power as a man." that one? and also "**** tests", i can notice the hug (i just learned from that one), but how about other things? I can see something, but i don't see them like someone from outside can see it, please advice me

So should I NOT talk to her//play hard to get.. be ignorant? I can remember times like 6months ago when i was so fking busy and didnt have any time for her (had to be ignorant) that was the time when we almost had sex and she wanted me so badly.. man i am so glad that i found this forum ))

ps2. curling is nice too, watching atm !

Well, you were so terribly sorry that you missed her performance, which you were going to bring flowers to (probably not a good idea for someone you've never been in a relationship with - it's a nice gesture between friends but a very AFC move if you want more with her), you apologized profusely for it a bunch of times and you didn't call her on her sh!t when she started giving you a hard time again about not going.

If I were you, I would consciously try harder to not care as much about the interaction. You need to cultivate some interest in other girls or other hobbies so that you don't give off a vibe of having no other options or being too invested in the outcome of your interactions with this girl.

 

[Park]

Well, you were so terribly sorry that you missed her performance, which you were going to bring flowers to (probably not a good idea for someone you've never been in a relationship with - it's a nice gesture between friends but a very AFC move if you want more with her), you apologized profusely for it a bunch of times and you didn't call her on her sh!t when she started giving you a hard time again about not going.

If I were you, I would consciously try harder to not care as much about the interaction. You need to cultivate some interest in other girls or other hobbies so that you don't give off a vibe of having no other options or being too invested in the outcome of your interactions with this girl.

Okay thanks But about the flowers thing, its just a normal thing here, nothing special, it wouldve been weird if i didnt have the flowers (kindah roud i think), but thx for advices, they were needed.. she knows that i have other girls and we talked about them today, and about my hobbies I go to gym like 4times a week, i dont have that much time for HER., so we dont really see that often, but we chat daily (msn, phone)

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Sergeant Park,


I think this is an awful lot of effort for you to be going through for a woman (girl) you say that you don't think that much of.

How old are you, by the way? The reason I ask is because sometimes the objectives I give men are best when they are targeted at their specific age.

Regardless, here are my assessments of the current romantic battlefield that you find yourself on:

1. You're thinking too much about this woman for her to be as casual a potential affair for you as you claim that she is. My training tells me that you're far more into her than you have admitted to the good men here in the Sosuave Army. In fact, I suspect that your interest is more serious than you would even like to admit to yourself.

You are borderline fixated on this little chick to the point where you may soon become fixated on her and "only" her. My suggestion to you is to search yourself and be honest about your feelings and intentions towards her-------THEN shape, form, and fashion a mission to make her yours (in whatever capacity that you have decided upon).

2. Because I believe you actually "care" for this girl, that unrecognized and/or unadmitted emotional attraction that you feel for her has managed to immobilize you, soldier--------you are either far too tentative in your approaches or even FROZEN in your tracks when it comes to advancing on her. And I believe you are reacting this way for two reasons:

You are afraid of doing the wrong thing, offending her, and fukking it all up, or your lack of decisiveness about how you feel about her is giving you too much "pause".

As I have said to many men before you:

Whenever you have spent 5 minutes trying to figure out what a woman is thinking, or how she will respond-----you've spent 4 minutes too many.

Reread the above statement until the sheer weight of the truth contained within it becomes internalized.

3. Stop emailing, MSNing, texting, Facebooking, or whatever the hell else you may be doing to keep in touch with this little chick on a daily basis IMMEDIATELY. Why do I say this? It's because she is becoming too damn use to you, while at the same time becoming confused by all the attention that you're giving her WITHOUT making a move on her.

Do you understand what I'm saying to you?

Know THIS, Sergeant Park:

One reason why a man IS a man is because he makes strong moves, consistent moves, and DECISIVE MOVES. As ironic as this sounds:

Get the fukk off the internet more often. Stop electronically "macking" this little chick and start "personally" macking her. To a certain extent, forget all about what she wants, what she "may" do, how she "may" react, and even what she "may" think.

Let your ONLY concern during your next interaction be what "you" want, what "you" thnk, and what "you" want from HER.

Decide WHAT you want with her, and make a DEFINITIVE romantic/sexual pass at her so she will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are NOT her mutherfukkin "friend", soldier. Don't get it twisted though, I'm not talking about taking a goddammed rape charge here, son.

What I'm talking about is removing all doubt from YOUR mind and HER mind that you are a romantically/sexually interested MAN--------and NOT her associate, her friend, and especially not her mutherfukin' "Fan".

You understand me?

Get off your ass. It's wise to think ahead and to protect yourself emotionally and sexually, but stop OVER-THINKING.

Start making MOVES, my man.

Life is for the living.

And FORTUNE favors THE BOLD.


Much respect and success to you.

You HAVE been "briefed".



Soldier on.



VU

 

[Park]

I have a feeling that i owe you. Sir yes sir!