Jack Bauer
New Member
Hey brothas.
I have noticed one key obstacle that is holding me back, when running game in bar/nightclub environments, and I was hoping some of you might have a solution for overcoming this obstacle.
My problem isn't my game. Nope.., it's BEING ABLE to run my game because of AFC's and all the other garden variety chumps. :box: As you already know, the ratio of men to women in bars typically isn't in our favor. But what really makes matter worse is these clingy, suck-up, chumps that immediately form a literal wall around any attractive or semi-attractive girl in a bar. The very second some girl comes in, these needy and supplicating chumps surround them, trying to initiate conversation. If the girl is at the bar, there will literally be one standing or sitting at either side, and typically at least a few standing behind her drooling. So they literally form a physical wall around them. Now, I know most of these chumps aren't going to get anywhere with these girls most of the time, but noone the less, the girl won't blow them out, because they love the attention, no matter how pathetic that male attention is. All the same, these chicks will be eye-balling me across the room. But, to go talk to them, I would literally have to step in between these clingy bastards, and possibly start a fight in the process. :trouble: And on top of that, in the first few seconds, she might see me as no different from the rest of her needy chump fan club. Hell, On multiple occasions, I even had a HB sit right next to me, and smile, and before I could initiate a conversation, some clown would squeeze right between me and her, and try to block her view of me with his body, while telling her "how hot she was," (PUke). And hell, even if they can't get their body in between, they'll try the "Arm on the Bar" between us block. That one really pisses me off. :box: Now, I'm not and have never been the type of person to not stand my ground. I typically don't take much **** from anyone, but hell, I'd get in a fight every time I went into a bar, if I tried to one-up these no game chumps, every time they tried this childish bs, that screams insecure, no game chump!
Okay, sorry for all the rambling, but does anyone have a way to get around these chump walls, to initiate with the girl? These chumps are ruining my chances.
I have noticed one key obstacle that is holding me back, when running game in bar/nightclub environments, and I was hoping some of you might have a solution for overcoming this obstacle.
My problem isn't my game. Nope.., it's BEING ABLE to run my game because of AFC's and all the other garden variety chumps. :box: As you already know, the ratio of men to women in bars typically isn't in our favor. But what really makes matter worse is these clingy, suck-up, chumps that immediately form a literal wall around any attractive or semi-attractive girl in a bar. The very second some girl comes in, these needy and supplicating chumps surround them, trying to initiate conversation. If the girl is at the bar, there will literally be one standing or sitting at either side, and typically at least a few standing behind her drooling. So they literally form a physical wall around them. Now, I know most of these chumps aren't going to get anywhere with these girls most of the time, but noone the less, the girl won't blow them out, because they love the attention, no matter how pathetic that male attention is. All the same, these chicks will be eye-balling me across the room. But, to go talk to them, I would literally have to step in between these clingy bastards, and possibly start a fight in the process. :trouble: And on top of that, in the first few seconds, she might see me as no different from the rest of her needy chump fan club. Hell, On multiple occasions, I even had a HB sit right next to me, and smile, and before I could initiate a conversation, some clown would squeeze right between me and her, and try to block her view of me with his body, while telling her "how hot she was," (PUke). And hell, even if they can't get their body in between, they'll try the "Arm on the Bar" between us block. That one really pisses me off. :box: Now, I'm not and have never been the type of person to not stand my ground. I typically don't take much **** from anyone, but hell, I'd get in a fight every time I went into a bar, if I tried to one-up these no game chumps, every time they tried this childish bs, that screams insecure, no game chump!
Okay, sorry for all the rambling, but does anyone have a way to get around these chump walls, to initiate with the girl? These chumps are ruining my chances.
