Those dates are fine.. just a bit less conducive for early seduction. I’ve done coffee and walks before. Prefer spending the money on the drinks for the ambiance.
exactly, the woman in my block of flats I dont think Ive ever seen her with supermarket bags. she just finesses men all the time.
She's not too bad looking. Her LinkedIn main profile picture is more attractive than that. Based on the two pictures, she's borderline average/cute. She is 24 though, which helps her SMV. We don't know how she presents herself in public, nor can we actually tell her weight/BMI from the pictures.
I would've said she's 30 or over. Man, she has the face of a real ballbuster....going on dates with this one hoping to get some pvssy sounds like torture.
100% ^^
Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Most of us have been on dates with a similar woman to Rachel Horowitz. Our versions might not be bisexual like her, but equally unpleasant in other ways.I would've said she's 30 or over. Man, she has the face of a real ballbuster....going on dates with this one hoping to get some pvssy sounds like torture.
So basically feminist only when it's convenient for her?
"I'm a feminist"...said no woman ever waiting for the waiter to bring the bill. It's always more like "I have to go to the washroom".
That's how most Western women think of feminism. Women love feminism when it is convenient for them.
Men are getting wise to the con.
That is horseshiit.
I like your style. I do seek longer term relationships but I won't do a dinner date for someone I met via a random stranger approach. When I was on swipe apps, I wasn't doing dinner dates either.
That pattern has alienated men. It was a large part of the reason I stopped using swipe apps and focused on more real life arranging of dates to greater success. Even stranger approaches can lead to one date, no sex, no second date as well. I'm not immune from the toxic pattern but it does reduce my exposure.
Very good!
She looks dirty with the trillion c0ck stare....
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Maybe she'd be a good third if you already had a girlfriend and wanted to do 3somes.
I hope you're right. One of my former female friends (a woman I was not physically attracted to) was on Tinder/Hinge as a 35 year old, childless woman who was a "5" at best. She was getting tons of dinner date offers. I didn't think anyone did dinner dates anymore since I stopped doing them about a decade ago on pre-sex dates. I thought I was late to the party in terms of "no dinners in restaurants prior to sex".
Pathetic to request money after the fact.
Being a Cheap Date Is Suddenly a Major Plus
For many people, the big question these days is less about who pays, and more about how much.www.wsj.com
Wall Street Journal is claiming inflation is reducing the amounts some men want to spend on early stage dates. This claim is not valid. There are far more pressing issues to most daters than inflation.
"The average date night costs $98 in the U.S., according to dating app Zoosk."
That's probably a statistic taking into consideration more established couples.
WSJ did get quotes from too many big city, white collar worker types. Of course, that's who tends to read WSJ content.
We also learned from this article that you won't get a 2nd date from Rachel Horowitz if you send her a text with bad grammar asking her for money via Venmo after your first date with her. See quote below....
"Rachel Horowitz, who dates men and women, usually splits the bill or picks up the tab when she’s on a date with another woman. But when she’s meeting up with a man for the first time, she believes it’s polite for him to offer to pay. “I’m a modern woman, I’m a feminist, but I believe at least the first date,” the 24-year-old Chicago entertainment marketer says.
More of her dates have been asking to split in recent months, she says. And a few months ago, she experienced a first when she woke up to a text requesting her half of the bill from a man who had made a big show of waving her credit card away the night before.
The text read, “Hey bb what’s your Venmo I need that dollar bad,” ending with a worried-looking emoji.
That was when she realized that economic concerns had changed modern dating customs. She says she was put off by the message, but thought to herself, “I guess if you really need that dollar that bad, I’ll give it to you.” She paid him about $40 via Venmo. There was no second date."
I find that the dating tactic that will reduce costs the most is only arranging dates through in-person initially meetings. Most men will go on fewer dates if only arranging dates through in-person stuff comparing to using swipe apps or social media DMs. Also, more of those in-person arranged dates will lead to 2nd dates. No dinner dates in restaurants also reduces costs, but drinks in bars can get up to about 50-75% of the cost of a meal date, if each person has 2 alcoholic drinks while together. Drinks dates are not a great cost savings but they are better than dinner simply because of environmental factors. They are better for escalation and seduction.
