Vision of a Feminist Utopia

[Inquisitus]

Potato stated:

"All this in the face of a crashing economy at the hands of conservatism."

Complete BS. Sorry, Miss Tater, but your favored liberals have quite a lot of blame to shoulder for the lending mess that brought on the bailout and crashing economy.

Making high risk loans to poor credit risks got us in this whole lending mess.

Guess who pushed for liberalized lending practices to poor credit risks so "everyone could own a home."?????

Hint: wasn't the conservatives.

She (potato) is quite incorrect placing blame here.

Dude, high risk loans were considered "safer" because of new unregulated financial devices that spread the risk until it appeared to dissappear. These were not regulated under the Bush admin because Bush's economic policy is to deregulate like Reagan. If Bush isn't a conservative, then i don't know what it is.

Deregulation/liberalization of market = Conservatives economic policy.
Regulation/nationalization = liberal/socialist economic policy

The current economic crisis can be laid at the foot of proponents of the unfettered market. Last I checked, that is a conservative.

EDIT: Funny thing is the bailout, which is Paulson's (a Bush apointee as Sec. of Treasury) idea, is not leaving the market to correct itself.

 

[wjh]

Way to go off-topic.

 

[bigjohnson]

Last I checked the US owns ~40% of the 'stuff' in the world IIRC. Such splendid failure.

 

[SoCalMike]

Sweden, the land from where came the greatest warriors, who conquered the world only to give it back, preferring to take care of their own rather than to rot their souls by trying to control the lesser peoples of other lands.

Sweden, the country conservatives love to hate. All those liberal ideas that conservatives bemoan thrive in Sweden and without the dire morass that conservatives predict. The fact that Sweden proves the American conservatives wrong leaves the conservatives to their usual smarminess spitting out their crap saying things such as Sweden makes their men sit to pee.

Back to the OP; boohoohoo, the girls are picking on me, boo, hoo, hoo.

That is because Sweden is a mostly Nordic country. Certain systems work well in homogenous societies. Try these policies in America it wouldn't work. Too "diverse". No sense of "us" only "me and my own". Too many parasites who would exploit the system and not put anything into it, either out of greed or genetic limitations.

 

[SoCalMike]

Mr/Miss Potatohead, we can only have true equality when every second body bag sent back from a war contains a woman's body, when every second person killed or maimed in heavy industry is a woman and when every second prisoner is a woman. Then we can all rest easy.

The way these feminists see it a million men's deaths are a statistic but a single woman's death is a tragedy.

We don't want this at all (women dying left and right in order to be equal).

We want women to be women, and men to be men.

We don't want scum influencing our women, making them try to compete with men or act like them. We want to protect them from this.

The only way this will happen though, is a complete meltdown of modern society.

 

[SoCalMike]

Dude, high risk loans were considered "safer" because of new unregulated financial devices that spread the risk until it appeared to dissappear. These were not regulated under the Bush admin because Bush's economic policy is to deregulate like Reagan. If Bush isn't a conservative, then i don't know what it is.

Deregulation/liberalization of market = Conservatives economic policy.
Regulation/nationalization = liberal/socialist economic policy

The current economic crisis can be laid at the foot of proponents of the unfettered market. Last I checked, that is a conservative.

EDIT: Funny thing is the bailout, which is Paulson's (a Bush apointee as Sec. of Treasury) idea, is not leaving the market to correct itself.

You, and everyone else, needs to drop these silly labels of "conservative" and "liberal" that the media and gov't puts on things to fool you.

Actions speak louder than words/labels.

The Bush admin policy of "everyone owing a home" speaks for itself. Gov't sponsored housing. Taxpayers foot the bill. Is that not 'socialism' or 'communism'?

Don't be naive. This housing mess was 100% planned and intentional. Obviously the men who rule us are not dumb, they understood exactly where this policy of giving loans to any featherless biped who could fog a mirror would lead.

Their "new world order" = world government = blending of all races = erasure of all national borders and the creation of a herd of rootless atomic low-iq mongrel serfs they can exploit forever.

Do you not see how this policy of "everyone gets a house" is just another means to achieve that aim? Fannie Mae/ Freddie Mac "minority" home loan programs were just another means to this end - the annihilation of the Western world. They want to stir us up like a big soup, to 'equalize' us - which can only be attained by tearing down the superior, since the inferior cannot be raised.

 

[Inquisitus]

This is just plain wrong.

If we had an unfettered market, then we wouldn't have the Federal Reserve setting interest rates, which is what enticed excessive borrowing to begin with.

Don't blame the free market when an entity is setting interest rates.

Read the sentence, i didn't say there was a totally free market. I said the people who want a market free of regulation. Free of any restrictions on the types of securities that can be sold and traded.

Interest rates had nothing to do with lender's decision to loosen their credit standards. Giving a non-traditional mortgage to people who can't even afford a regular mortgage is just plain crazy. Cheap money or no for lenders.

 

[ElChoclo]

Here in Australia the gays and the greens are now running the place. What they didn't tell anyone in the media was why they were sending de factos to the same Federal court as the marrieds. So that they could split their superannuation (retirement savings) and make men in de factos liable for extended spousal maintenance.

Because it was getting to the stage where everyone was discovering that married men were being treated worse than men in de facto relationships.

 

[ElChoclo]

SoCalMike the feminists need some reductio ad absurdum as the philosophy prof would say. If you only read one book, read Dr Warren Farrell's "The Myth of Male Power".

Your eyes will be opened my friend.