Views on the Forum from an outsider

[Latinoman]

Hi.

I want to say thank you for allowing me be part of the Forum. I also want to say congratulations and job well done!

I have been reading the Forum for almost 3 weeks. I must admit that the “articles” section of the Website is outstanding. I was like “Wow…some people truly have a clue”. That led me to take a closer look at the “Forum”. I like the Forum structure and many of the topics. But I must admit that I’m a little disappointed with most of contents of the Forum. The one that has the best content is the Mature Forum (I checked all 13 pages!). Unfortunately, some kids think they can come and give a 35+ year old man “advice”.

Here is my view, when I read several of the articles in sosuave.com, I was like “these people truly know their stuff”. But when I went to the Forums, I found that many of the people posting are actually kids. A kid is a "dj"? :nono: No offense, but when it comes to dealing with my relationship, there is not way I can take advice from somebody that is under 25 years old. In fact, I have some issues taking advice from somebody that is under 30! There always some exceptions and I feel that a handful of younger men can provide some great advice. But with younger, I mean 25+.

Cyber Dating

Another topic that I found amazing was the cyber dating stuff. Listen guys, to this date I cannot consider anyone that is into the “cyber dating” a dj. In fact, a man’s man does not waste his time in myspace or match.com or any of those sites. I can understand there exception to the rules, such as a man being socially handicapped or living in a remote area, but other than that; sorry, you cannot call yourself “dj” if you are doing the on-line dating. Now, there is nothing wrong with dating women on-line. It is simply not for the unique men. And only a small percentage of men can call themselves unique.

Women posters

Another thing that I noticed is that we have a handful of women posting in here. I must admit that when it comes to motherhood, menstruation, hormones, and some medical stuff that women are great. But when it comes to giving men advice in how to deal with other women? The vast majority is clueless. Sorry, but only men that are successful with women can give advice on: “dating woman”. I personally don’t like when a woman is mistreated, especially in this Forum. But, I’m very happy to know that the men in here have not adjusted their opinions to make the women members like them. I remember a men’s forum, that looked more like a woman’s forum. I am also happy with the way 90% of the women that post in here behave. They show respect (most of them do) for the male population in this Forum. I applaud that.

Older Woman

On the issue of dating “older woman” (e.g. 35+ woman) that are 5+ years older than you. I read somebody say that “older women” are in their primes. I laughed. If you are dating an older woman because both of you have similar goals, values, and morals, then I applaud you! Heck, I’m dating an older one myself for those same reasons. However, if you are dating one based on the “prime” myth, then I have news for you: you are clueless.

Women prime is her late 20s. It appears that 35+ women are in their prime (especially in their 40s) because of all the sexual stuff taking place. But do you know what? The reason they are doing all those sexual stuff is because that’s the only way most can compete with women in their 20s. Furthermore, prime (when it comes to woman) is based on its ability to give birth (even if she doesn’t want to have kids). An older woman, as she nears the menopause, can actually lose interest in sex. That’s not prime.

I have several other things that I would like to share. But this post is getting too long.

I am here to learn.

 

[Latinoman]

Shezz,

Thanks for the reply!

I am not against younger men (kids was kind of a bad term) giving advice. I'm almost sure that most of the articles were writen by younger men and I still believe they were great articles! In fact, I believe that younger men posting in here is great! I do have some issues with High School kids giving advice to mature men (unless the advice relates to those mature men dealing with their own sons and daughters).

Furthermore, younger men also need advice. And sometimes the best person to give that advice is another younger man that understand the "social culture" of the times much better than an older man. Keeping in mind that many men in their 30s and 40s are succesful with women in their 20s.

All said and done, I personally believe that men's true prime is between 35-42. That is, if he truly takes care of himself (healthwise). The reason is that we most view the entire forest (instead of the tree in front of us). And the "forest" might include health, physical, wealth, education, profession, experience, relative youth (yes, a man that age under today scientific advances is young), goals achieved, etc.

To put it in perspective and using movie actors (for lack of better examples); let's take a look at some of the most "desired" men in Holliwood. We have 28 year old Ashton Kutcher or men in the 35-42 year range (Johny Depp, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Matthew McConaughey, etc.). Sorry, but not even Ashton is a competition for those guys.

 

[Marlimus]

im 19 and i consistently go out to meet women (sarging), i do this in direct correlation with other things in my life that i enjoy doing and feel are bettering me as a person, i enjoy football, gym, running, reading etc and feel that the dating/sarging/seduction circuit is merely a bonus section of my life, put there to further enrich my life. Some so called mature men on here, 30+ dont do this, arent comfortable with doing this and thus dont get the women they want. A lot of guys i know who are younger than 25 Do go out, putting themselves into Socially Pressurised situations, to allow them to grow as a person.

Agreed.

If you had a keen interest in Soccer, and some kid who was 18 started telling you things that you DIDN'T know about that chosen field, would you tell him to get lost because he was too young, too inexperienced to tell you what to do, ive lived longer, so i know more! NO!

Well said, shezz, well said indeed.

 

[Latinoman]

In relation to the two quotes that Marlimus picked:

"im 19 and i consistently go out to meet women (sarging), i do this in direct correlation with other things in my life that i enjoy doing and feel are bettering me as a person, i enjoy football, gym, running, reading etc and feel that the dating/sarging/seduction circuit is merely a bonus section of my life, put there to further enrich my life. Some so called mature men on here, 30+ dont do this, arent comfortable with doing this and thus dont get the women they want. A lot of guys i know who are younger than 25 Do go out, putting themselves into Socially Pressurised situations, to allow them to grow as a person. "

Let's not kid ourselves here. Seduction and Sex are two of the main things in my life and most men lives. If that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have Forums such as this one.

By the way, I work out 4-5 times a week (of which 3 consist of lifting weights). I read at least one book per week. I went out EVERY weekend (Friday and Saturday) to nightclubs here in the East Coast. I did that until maybe 8 months ago ( when I met this woman and decided my time was better served spending it with her and my children). In fact, I started reading Mario Puzo's "The Godfather" for the 6th time last night. I do agree with the go out thing and lot of younger guys putting themselves in those situations. But here is the trick...you as a 19 year old man perhaps don't own your house. Perhaps you are not making a great salary. And perhaps you don't have your vehicle paid off. Furthermore, perhaps you don't have the cash flow that a 35 year old man has. Those are the things MANY women are looking in a man: FULL INDEPENDENCE in addition to a few other things that many men lack. They want to feel safe (physically, emotionally, and...economically). There many other ways to meet women other than nightclubs. ANYONE can meet a woman in a nightclub. I did that plenty of times. Very few can meet women in the train station or library or bookstore or beach. And very few can meet women that have all the things: educated, professional, independent, attractive, and respectful.


The good news is that you are in the right track and way ahead many men your age group. This is a marathon. Sad thing is that many men neglected lot of things and now that they are in their 30s and 40s have a LOT to do in order to even catch up.


"If you had a keen interest in Soccer, and some kid who was 18 started telling you things that you DIDN'T know about that chosen field, would you tell him to get lost because he was too young, too inexperienced to tell you what to do, ive lived longer, so i know more! NO! "

Women are very complex individuals. If I was interested in dating women under 21, then I would certainly ask for advice to people that date that age group. But, I seriously doubt any man in his 30s would want to date a woman in their teens or under 21. All said, if I wanted to date women in their 20s, I would certainly read what many men in that age group has to say. And I seriously doubt many teens have dated women worth something in the age group that men in their 30s prefer. A teenager cannot give advice to a man based on experiences he (teenager) lacks. That's my point. He can, of course, give an opinion. ANYONE can give opinions.

 

[The Juan and only]

By the way, I work out 4-5 times a week (of which 3 consist of lifting weights). I read at least one book per week. I went out EVERY weekend (Friday and Saturday) to nightclubs here in the East Coast. I did that until maybe 8 months ago ( when I met this woman and decided my time was better served spending it with her and my children). In fact, I started reading Mario Puzo's "The Godfather" for the 6th time last night.

Good for you. Your entire post seems to be a cry for validation.

you as a 19 year old man perhaps don't own your house. Perhaps you are not making a great salary. And perhaps you don't have your vehicle paid off. Furthermore, perhaps you don't have the cash flow that a 35 year old man has.

No, maybe I don't own my own house, perhaps I don't have my vehicle paid off.... but that means SH!T. All those things are auxilliary factors which carry little weight.

The good news is that you are in the right track and way ahead many men your age group.

There you go, trying to sound superior. Now I'm not trying to to claim you don't know what you're talking about, because I'm sure you do. It's just that I think you could learn a thing or two from some of these "kids"..........in fact, you could address your desperate need to prove yourself (stemming from poor self-confidence) for a start.

A teenager cannot give advice to a man. That's my point. He can, of course, give an opinion. ANYONE can give opinions.

Age is NOT the only factor here. As shezz said, some people have just devoted more of their life to one particular area of improvement or study; we should also consider that some people are simply more intelligent than others, quicker to learn and more articulate.

Stop discrimating against people purely because of their age. Why don't you read what they have to say before you start criticising?

 

[belividere]

Welcome aboard Latinoman,

Your best bet is to stick with the mature mans, anything else, and archive forums for helpful advice. Check the link to the DJ bible too. Way better info in those areas than in this discussion board.

The rest of you guys need to relax a little. These are all valid points IMO whether you chose to accept them or not.

 

[Tha Realnezz]

Yeah but then older guys shouldn't be in here whining and complaing about how they've never grabbed a girls ass or never had a real date before.

I say if you want serious,serious advise about LTR's/Older Gentleman's advise or are just more a Nice Guy.Go to the old farr...I mean Mature Man's corner.

But all jokes aside I agree some people shouldn't be given advise period.If every guy's post is some whiny crap then I think he should pretty much be ignored.

There's no help for guys like that.They just bring everybody down and kill the mood of the board.Go somewhere else if you need people to here you're crap cause you're not contributing anything useful.

Young or old there's awhole lot of whiners on this site.

Women..whatever.You can't controll that.But we defintley need more specific sub-forums.

Like I said..

1.Keep the oldermen/LTR/Marriage stuff in one forum.

2.Keep the kiddie(and perhaps women) advise stuff in there's.

3.Maybe an official Fashion forum cuz one quarter of the daily posts here are fashion-style-lifestyle related.

Later.

 

[I'm Joe Dirt]

Now, there is nothing wrong with dating women on-line. It is simply not for the unique men.

I strongly disagree. I have only met a handful of girls from Myspace and other similar services the rest (and the girl I am dating now) I have met in other venues, but I see online dating as a tool/venue like any other.

Its not original/unique you say? And the "bar scene" is? Talk about a scene/venue that is so CLICHE for picking up women its not even funny. So a guy who goes out to bars to sarge is more original/unique than someone who makes a kick ass profile on Myspace and beds girls that way? I think not.

The reason a lot of vets and older guys are dismissing online dating, I feel, is that the internet is a new medium and they are just not familiar with it. Let's face it, guys who are in the know about comptuers and how this online communication works, the guys who are tuned into the online culture and can tell a person's mood just by obserbing what emoticons and abbreviations they are using is the guy who is gonna appreciate and be successful dating online.

Those guys who still think you can't tell a person's mood or tonality by just reading their IMs are in the dark, they aren't plugged into the online culture, and understandably they assume that because they don't get it or they don't feel comfortable with it that its a bad medium. Well, its not.

But still, I wouldn't knock online dating just cause you didn't grow up with it, like many of the young people here do.



As far as taking advice from people younger than you, its possible that people who are young can share some useful insights and offer worthwhile advice.

It also depends on who is asking for the advice. There are real-life 40 year old virgins out there, and a 19 year old who has been socialized and has been practicing the pick up arts for a couple of years would have some VERY good advice for the older guy. Also guys who are married and whipped and hold onto the traditional "she is the prize, I must buy her gifts and be nice to her, etc." mantra would also be better off if they listened to a 21 year old who has been studying social dynamics through this community and through independent research in psychology.

Don't dismiss advice just cause of where it comes from, judge it on its own merits.

 

[Tha Realnezz]

I don't know I met alot of women online but it doesn't feel as gangsta(lol) as doing street/club/party pu's or just meeting girls you've seen around from time to time and slaying them.

 

[Socialreject]

Men, like wine, take time to mature. So i hear you on that, but there are exception to every rule, and so it is with this one.

Financial security is not really a factor i would in calculate in to the seduction. How would a woman I've just met know i have my own house, car, business, etc. They don't, they can't. Most don't even ask. Though the question "what do you do?" is of course a popular part of fluff talk, it still doesn't lead to you spilling your guts about your financial state. The details about my professional life are something only my closest friends and the people i do business with know about. Not that it's a secret, but I'm not a show off, so how would they know? Everyone can dress nice, everyone can afford a Mercedes, everyone has a place of residence (rented or otherwise, it doesn't read above the door) and everyone can afford to take a woman to dinner!

The only relationship where this might come up would be a LTR. Now, personally I've had 2 serious relationships in my whole life and when i look back at it, I'm sry to say they both were an obstacle, because i don't have time for all the LTR stuff. I'm way to busy with my own life! And as long as that stays the same, there is just no room for LTR and so there is no room for financial 'stuff' being mixed in to it.

Now of course errr... i do own my own car, place, etc, and unless the economy goes completely belly up i would say I'm pretty secure in that department. But the point is, it never comes up. So i don't see how it 'matters', unless women smell these kind of things (which i would find highly unlikely when looking at some of the guys some women date!).

So, all in all, i would say that in my opinion, it's all about the presentation of your person and wealth doesn't factor in to it. I know some guys that wear diamond earrings, don't wear anything that costs less than 500$, don't buy cars that cost less than 50 grand, etc etc... but does that make them more attractive to women as opposed to me? Not really. Though they are more attractive to a certain 'type' of female. A type I'm happy to avoid to be perfectly honest.

At any length. Welcome to the board and i hope you can look past all the crud and ego that's being spread here on a regular basis. ;-)

 

[I'm Joe Dirt]

I also totally disagree with the "women are looking for financial security"

Guys who have crappy jobs but act alpha still pull girls, attractive girls and all types of girls.

This kind of thinking shows a completely wrong mindframe for the attraction game. If a girl cares a lot about the money that would probably raise a red flag in my head immediately. While its true that girls don't want to date a deadbeat who can't pay his bills, is a high school dropout, and makes near minimum wage, but as long as the guy has potential and ain't hitting her up for money its fine.

If you are looking to impress women with your money and success, you are playing the wrong game. Just like the old saying goes "there is always a better looking guy than you out there", there are always going to be richer and more successful guys than you out there as well.

When a girl starts making her decisions on who she dates based on what I call the logical factors - that is factors she think are best for her rather than pure gut-feeling attraction for you, you've already lost.

 

[Socialreject]

While its true that girls don't want to date a deadbeat who can't pay his bills, is a high school dropout, and makes near minimum wage, but as long as the guy has potential and ain't hitting her up for money its fine.

QFT, and let me add to that, some of my friends' ladies have dated guys for YEARS who did all that PLUS ask her for money, make her pay bills etc etc! And they still stuck with the tard for years!

While i have to say that most of my friends have pretty 'decent' gf's, it still goes to show that finacial security really isn't such a big deal and in the end not all women are superficial in partner selection.

 

[S1NN3R]

I am here to learn.

Not to sound like an ass, but it doesn't sound like it. Sounds like you're here to judge. I might be wrong, I have been before.

Cyber Dating

Another topic that I found amazing was the cyber dating stuff. Listen guys, to this date I cannot consider anyone that is into the “cyber dating” a dj. In fact, a man’s man does not waste his time in myspace or match.com or any of those sites. I can understand there exception to the rules, such as a man being socially handicapped or living in a remote area, but other than that; sorry, you cannot call yourself “dj” if you are doing the on-line dating. Now, there is nothing wrong with dating women on-line. It is simply not for the unique men. And only a small percentage of men can call themselves unique.

Out of curiosity, how do you come to this specific conclusion? Again, it just sounds like judgement. Have you tried it, or are you just going off of some abstract view of the activity?

Not for the unique man? What an utterly uninformed and overgeneralized thing to say. I have had great luck at internet dating, mainly through MySpace and HotOrNot. I actually have a fate in about three hours, one tomorrow night with girls from HotOrNot, and two next week with chikas from MySpace. I must not be "unique" then you're saying? How droll. And they are fairly hot too, 7s and up. I don't use it as the only venue, I still sarge around at the clubs every chance I get and I'll chat up girls at the coffee shops, university, waitresses, hell even the DMV. But I work four jobs. I put in 60 hours a week, minimum. I don't have time to go out and find as many girls in person as I want. And I want a lot. So I get a lot by using every available opportunity. The fact that i'm getting them is what counts as far as I'm concerned, not how I'm getting them. Sure there are some nutters and some liars and some people that need to be weeded out, but no more than any other place you meet girls.

Bottom line is that many of the people you can meet online are the smae people you'd meet it you had time to run to every bar in town every night. That you feel it's not a respectable way to meet girls and get your lay on says more about you than it does the people who do it.

 

[Latinoman]

If you are doing FINANCIAL security for women...and NOT for yourself, then you are already showing a losers mentality.

And with finacial security, I'm not talking about becoming rich. I'm talking about becoming financially independent.

And ANY capable man that has a woman paying for everything (unless they are married) is a man that I personally don't respect as a man. Because a woman that pays for EVERYTHING and allows herself to be used in such a fashion is a VERY WEAK woman. A man that predates on those women is a man that lacks dj skills.

Now, if a man is with a very strong woman. Independent. Intelligent. Very attractive. A woman that can choose as she wishes, but instead, choose him. One that views a relationship as a give and take...as a partnership. Then that's a man that I respect.

 

[Latinoman]

Finally:

I also totally disagree with the "women are looking for financial security"

Guys who have crappy jobs but act alpha still pull girls, attractive girls and all types of girls.

You are right. They pull “girls”. Not “women”.

This kind of thinking shows a completely wrong mindframe for the attraction game. If a girl cares a lot about the money that would probably raise a red flag in my head immediately. While its true that girls don't want to date a deadbeat who can't pay his bills, is a high school dropout, and makes near minimum wage, but as long as the guy has potential and ain't hitting her up for money its fine.

I also agree. But you are doing those things for YOURSELF. To better yourself. To get rid of the remote possibility of feeling jealousy and the likes.

If you are looking to impress women with your money and success, you are playing the wrong game. Just like the old saying goes "there is always a better looking guy than you out there", there are always going to be richer and more successful guys than you out there as well.

Personally, very rarely a woman knows what I do for a living. I don’t dress the same when I’m in the streets (casual, perhaps showing tattoos) or nightclubs (stylish) as when I go to my office (suits). Because I am Latino and dark skinned and have that “bad boy” look, many might even think that I work in construction or some other blue collar profession (which I personally think is honorable and have LOT of respect for it – considering that I used to be a blue collar worker myself). All that said, my professional success I did it because of ME and my KIDS. Furthermore, my point is that it puts you in a complete different level. I NEVER discourage anyone to better himself. I always advice men to work toward making MORE $$$ and NOT to be complacent. To be the best at what they do, even if that is blue collar working.

When a girl starts making her decisions on who she dates based on what I call the logical factors - that is factors she think are best for her rather than pure gut-feeling attraction for you, you've already lost.

We should be like alchemists; make gold out of nothing. Furthermore, once a woman feels attraction for you…doesn’t matter what you do for a living. BUT, when it comes to LTR? Yes, it matters a lot. Stability is important in every LTR. It is for me and it should be for you.

 

[Latinoman]

Let me touch some of the points that were brought up by some of you:

1- I clearly stated that was an outsider view. And I said that I even went through the entire 13 pages in one of the Forums. Sorry, but my outsider view came after several days of reading the Forum. I’m sharing what I saw as an outsider. If you are incapable of accepting constructive criticism, then how can you even accept rejection? Some of you are very defensive, and that’s okay. But that’s how things are seeing from the outside from an outsider. I was simply sharing those views.

2- Financial stability. Owning a house and having a car paid off is something you are doing for YOURSELF. And is something you will get better at as you mature and get older. If you are doing those things for a woman, then you are putting her above you.

3- All said, women prefer men with financial stability. At least the women that matter. If you meet a lawyer woman or a woman that is a doctor, do you think that being unemployed or living with daddy and mom is going to do the trick? It might if you find one in a nightclub or if you find one that lacks self confidence and self respect. For the same token, why a man that has a career and an education should settle for a woman that doesn’t work? Sorry guys, but it goes both ways.

4- Cyber dating vs. real life dating. When you go to the train station or a nightclub or the library or a party; women will notice you. They will watch you if they find you remotely interest and they will study you. And in most cases, that will be done WAY before you even notice them. Cyber stuff is very easy. You create a persona. You write some stuff and get their attention. ANYONE (even a 14 year old boy) can do that. In fact, many losers have managed to do that. It is easier to pick women (desperate ones) using on-line. Who wants a woman like that? I don’t. Why not pick the best possible women out there? In fact, why not let them pick YOU!

In response to the poster that asked me about Cyber Dating. Have I tried to get “cyber dating” via places such as the ones mentioned above? I don’t waste my time with those things. But, I have visited and researched those places. That’s why I am talking about them. But I can tell you one thing, I have posted in several FORUMS (non-dating type) and have gotten several of the women in those Forums very interested in me (including some sending me telephone numbers, a naked picture here and there, and even addresses). My point is…I can go to ANY regular Forum and catch the interest of a woman. I have researched and put into practice those skills and have been successful (the only thing is that I don’t go all the way to the “meeting” or “dating” crap). For a man that knows the game and knows how to played it, the Internet is the EASIEST way to get woman. And most of the women in those sites are either insecure (very) or a little desperate. So, it is very easy to predate on them. All that said, if you happen to meet a “good one”, you will always have to consider that it is going to be a LOT easier for her to meet OTHER men. Even when she is with you. Who wants a woman like that? Now, if you want a quick hook up or predate on weak woman…that’s fine.

 

[( . )( . )]

Hi.

I want to say thank you for allowing me be part of the Forum. I also want to say congratulations and job well done!

I have been reading the Forum for almost 3 weeks. I must admit that the “articles” section of the Website is outstanding. I was like “Wow…some people truly have a clue”. That led me to take a closer look at the “Forum”. I like the Forum structure and many of the topics. But I must admit that I’m a little disappointed with most of contents of the Forum. The one that has the best content is the Mature Forum (I checked all 13 pages!). Unfortunately, some kids think they can come and give a 35+ year old man “advice”.

Here is my view, when I read several of the articles in sosuave.com, I was like “these people truly know their stuff”. But when I went to the Forums, I found that many of the people posting are actually kids. A kid is a "dj"? :nono: No offense, but when it comes to dealing with my relationship, there is not way I can take advice from somebody that is under 25 years old. In fact, I have some issues taking advice from somebody that is under 30! There always some exceptions and I feel that a handful of younger men can provide some great advice. But with younger, I mean 25+.

Cyber Dating

Another topic that I found amazing was the cyber dating stuff. Listen guys, to this date I cannot consider anyone that is into the “cyber dating” a dj. In fact, a man’s man does not waste his time in myspace or match.com or any of those sites. I can understand there exception to the rules, such as a man being socially handicapped or living in a remote area, but other than that; sorry, you cannot call yourself “dj” if you are doing the on-line dating. Now, there is nothing wrong with dating women on-line. It is simply not for the unique men. And only a small percentage of men can call themselves unique.

Women posters

Another thing that I noticed is that we have a handful of women posting in here. I must admit that when it comes to motherhood, menstruation, hormones, and some medical stuff that women are great. But when it comes to giving men advice in how to deal with other women? The vast majority is clueless. Sorry, but only men that are successful with women can give advice on: “dating woman”. I personally don’t like when a woman is mistreated, especially in this Forum. But, I’m very happy to know that the men in here have not adjusted their opinions to make the women members like them. I remember a men’s forum, that looked more like a woman’s forum. I am also happy with the way 90% of the women that post in here behave. They show respect (most of them do) for the male population in this Forum. I applaud that.

Older Woman

On the issue of dating “older woman” (e.g. 35+ woman) that are 5+ years older than you. I read somebody say that “older women” are in their primes. I laughed. If you are dating an older woman because both of you have similar goals, values, and morals, then I applaud you! Heck, I’m dating an older one myself for those same reasons. However, if you are dating one based on the “prime” myth, then I have news for you: you are clueless.

Women prime is her late 20s. It appears that 35+ women are in their prime (especially in their 40s) because of all the sexual stuff taking place. But do you know what? The reason they are doing all those sexual stuff is because that’s the only way most can compete with women in their 20s. Furthermore, prime (when it comes to woman) is based on its ability to give birth (even if she doesn’t want to have kids). An older woman, as she nears the menopause, can actually lose interest in sex. That’s not prime.

I have several other things that I would like to share. But this post is getting too long.

I am here to learn.

All valid points, you nailed it. Stick around mate.

However giving logical reasons to the cyberdaters/chicks/old chicks/society guard poodles and garden variety homos here is about as productive as poking matches in poo.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Hi.

I want to say thank you for allowing me be part of the Forum. I also want to say congratulations and job well done!

I have been reading the Forum for almost 3 weeks. I must admit that the “articles” section of the Website is outstanding. I was like “Wow…some people truly have a clue”. That led me to take a closer look at the “Forum”. I like the Forum structure and many of the topics. But I must admit that I’m a little disappointed with most of contents of the Forum. The one that has the best content is the Mature Forum (I checked all 13 pages!). Unfortunately, some kids think they can come and give a 35+ year old man “advice”.

Here is my view, when I read several of the articles in sosuave.com, I was like “these people truly know their stuff”. But when I went to the Forums, I found that many of the people posting are actually kids. A kid is a "dj"? :nono: No offense, but when it comes to dealing with my relationship, there is not way I can take advice from somebody that is under 25 years old. In fact, I have some issues taking advice from somebody that is under 30! There always some exceptions and I feel that a handful of younger men can provide some great advice. But with younger, I mean 25+.

Cyber Dating

Another topic that I found amazing was the cyber dating stuff. Listen guys, to this date I cannot consider anyone that is into the “cyber dating” a dj. In fact, a man’s man does not waste his time in myspace or match.com or any of those sites. I can understand there exception to the rules, such as a man being socially handicapped or living in a remote area, but other than that; sorry, you cannot call yourself “dj” if you are doing the on-line dating. Now, there is nothing wrong with dating women on-line. It is simply not for the unique men. And only a small percentage of men can call themselves unique.

Women posters

Another thing that I noticed is that we have a handful of women posting in here. I must admit that when it comes to motherhood, menstruation, hormones, and some medical stuff that women are great. But when it comes to giving men advice in how to deal with other women? The vast majority is clueless. Sorry, but only men that are successful with women can give advice on: “dating woman”. I personally don’t like when a woman is mistreated, especially in this Forum. But, I’m very happy to know that the men in here have not adjusted their opinions to make the women members like them. I remember a men’s forum, that looked more like a woman’s forum. I am also happy with the way 90% of the women that post in here behave. They show respect (most of them do) for the male population in this Forum. I applaud that.

Older Woman

On the issue of dating “older woman” (e.g. 35+ woman) that are 5+ years older than you. I read somebody say that “older women” are in their primes. I laughed. If you are dating an older woman because both of you have similar goals, values, and morals, then I applaud you! Heck, I’m dating an older one myself for those same reasons. However, if you are dating one based on the “prime” myth, then I have news for you: you are clueless.

Women prime is her late 20s. It appears that 35+ women are in their prime (especially in their 40s) because of all the sexual stuff taking place. But do you know what? The reason they are doing all those sexual stuff is because that’s the only way most can compete with women in their 20s. Furthermore, prime (when it comes to woman) is based on its ability to give birth (even if she doesn’t want to have kids). An older woman, as she nears the menopause, can actually lose interest in sex. That’s not prime.

I have several other things that I would like to share. But this post is getting too long.

I am here to learn.

I concur you look to be insightful and can make productive contributions to the forum. You're on my short list brother.

It pisses me off as well when kids (Fvcking Friv) try to shove thier inane babble in our faces as gospel.

Oh, and I'm impressed that you've not had one grammatical error thus far (Sorry I'm a stickler for grammar) Good job :yes:

 

[comic_relief]

agreed and the problem that I have with the mature man's forum is that they do delete the material that is posted by younger members on topics that are not mature topics but are in there by sheer luck because the main forum gets rid of the good topics very quickly. One day a post is here and the next it is gone.

Rollo's plate theory post is great. Westcoasters and LIT's posts are awesome.

Here are some very nice posts that I can't post in and have an intelligent response to.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=97127
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=98733
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=90482

Thats merely on the first page. If we go further back I am sure that I can find dozens of posts that I would love to comment on and those three can be put all age groups.

Am I complaining? YES! An entire age group of young men are being thrown away from even asking questions to the posts because of a inane age limit. I don't know. I just think that this forum is becoming intolerant. I remember when Paradox and Allen were the only mods and teenagers were allowed to post. Player_Supreme, PRL, and Westcoaster were all saying they wanted me to post more. I just feel like this is very troubling to me.

comic_relief

 

[Friendly Otter]

Are limits and standards "intolerant"? That comment is actually an example of why we need separate forums for the age groups. Kids don't understand why they are treated like kids; teenagers don't understand why they are treated as teenagers. We 25+ do understand.

Especially in a forum like this one, threads would easily be swamped by posts from immature teenagers, and the older posters would leave.