video: Being a 50 year-old male virgin

[Hamurabimbi]

1 - That video is suspicious. If you are a 50 year old virgin, would you tell anyone? Let alone set up a camera in a room, record yourself talking about it for 5 min, and then upload it for the world to see?



2- What is he supposed to do for it to not happen? That’s akin to questioning why every 50 year old man is not rich. You all worked for 25 years, how could you all not be loaded?

3 - That scene in Whatever is ridiculous. They pick a fat guy, with glasses and short hair wearing a suit to a club. Who the hell does that?




I dont think it’s about that. I think it’s about attraction and it comes down to 2 things, Height and hair, I’ve seen so many lust, love and marry guys because of those 2 factors. Women love things about men that men can’t change.

It’s more than that. My middle-aged incel friends are around 6’. They all had hair when younger. Most still do.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Mostly a mental issue from what I've seen. The guys that are incel at that age aren't OK looking and tall. Not good looking enough for girls to hit on them. But, good enough to get a woman if they put in the effort. But they haven't. And they won't.

True mental issues could/can be a part of the equation for sure.

It takes 50 years tho of dedication of not taking care of yourself to become that ugly.
I mean when he was a young lad and had the looks he was (probably) not looking that bad.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

True mental issues could/can be a part of the equation for sure.

It takes 50 year tho of dedication of not taking care of yourself to become that ugly.
I mean when he was a young lad and had the looks he was (probably) not looking that bad.

My StripClubCel friend was good looking when young. Looked like a blonde surfer dude. But his social anxiety was crippling. Even as recently as 5 years ago, we were at a restaurant, and the waitress was flirty with him. Such a waste.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

My StripClubCel friend was good looking when young. Looked like a blonde surfer dude. But his social anxiety was crippling. Even as recently as 5 years ago, we were at a restaurant, and the waitress was flirty with him. Such a waste.

That is indeed kind of sad and waste of his own potential.

 

[sangheilios]

I dont think it’s about that. I think it’s about attraction and it comes down to 2 things, Height and hair, I’ve seen so many lust, love and marry guys because of those 2 factors. Women love things about men that men can’t change.

Bro, there's way more to it than what you just mentioned. Women look for all sorts of things, one woman has a type that may be totally alien to that of another woman. Men look for primarily physical looks and attractiveness in terms of mate choice. Women definitely consider looks but also put a higher degree of emphasis on wealth/status, personal compatibility, etc. They legitimately look for things like a man having a good sense of humor or say being a life of the party type. Some women like an "edgy" bad boy type of man for instance, it's a reason why a lot of romance novels and films have such characters (Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey, etc.).

 

[SW15]

My interests are gym/working out and hiking but also finance, investments, history, science, anything to do with current events (politics, economics, etc.). I also really like things like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Halo, sci-fi, etc. Most women don't really care about stuff like that and might find such a man boring or even be turned off by it. The reason someone like me could potentially get away with it is because I'm tall and very fit. Most of these nerd types tend to be either very skinny or overweight and also not put much effort into their appearance. It's honestly not difficult to see why these guys are not even in the game at all.

It is unusual for a 6'4", 230 lb fit guy to have some of the interests that you have. Some of them are nerdy. Women do tend to get turned off by science fiction. Women aren't usually into talking about science topics. A lot of STEM guys don't get laid due to being unrelatable with their interests in science, math, and engineering type stuff.

 

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[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Exactly. They are late to the game as it is as late bloomers. Then they miss opportunities due to being too inexperienced to pick up subtle IOIs, and they are too passive in terms of making a move. And, as nice guys, they genuinely want to be respectful and not pushy. So they try to stack evidence to be absolutely sure she’s interested. By then, it’s too late with her.

So they sadly continue to fall farther behind on the experience curve while watching others go in and out of relationships (and hookups) while seemingly not even having to try.

yup, another reminder on how my mindset and perspective towards the game, seduction, courtship, has changed over the years, men are the only gender that have to practice when it comes to learning how to or just getting better at interacting with the opposite sex, or men have to do all or most of the learning. I know this is not for everyone, but by a certain age, i see nothing wrong with paying for sex, an escort, sex worker, prostitute/hooker, but like i said, to each their own.

 

[Mike32ct]

Women do tend to get turned off by science fiction. Women aren't usually into talking about science topics. A lot of STEM guys don't get laid due to being unrelatable with their interests in science, math, and engineering type stuff.

Yeah. A lot of these guys are introverted to begin with, and sadly, they know women don’t usually share their STEM or other nerdy interests, so they (understandably) talk to women even less than other guys.

Even the engineer chick I dated did not want to talk about nerdy stuff. Her conversations were about food, gossip, travel, and tv shows instead lol.

 

[SW15]

Even the engineer chick I dated did not want to talk about nerdy stuff. Her conversations were about food, gossip, travel, and tv shows instead lol.

If she's talking about food, gossip, travel, and video content, that sounds like an ordinary female in a non-STEM field.

A lot of these guys are introverted to begin with, and sadly, they know women don’t usually share their STEM or other nerdy interests, so they (understandably) talk to women even less than other guys.

Being introverted is a normal thing and it doesn't necessarily make a man worse at seduction. Introverts find their energy is drained from social interaction and would prefer to limit social interaction. Many introverts do not like large group settings either. Social skills matter more than introversion itself. There are introverts that have social skill and make a decent impression. There are also introverts who are not social skills and make an impression of being socially awkward.

That said, certain methods of meeting women are not well suited for introverts.

The four main ways to meet women are:

1. Night game (approaching strangers in bars/nightlife venues)
2. Day game (approaching strangers in non-bar venues)
3. Tech-based (swipe apps and social media DMs. Some 50+ people still use dating websites like Match or OurTime)
4. Social circle (meeting people through an existing social network)

Night game is probably the worst method for introverts for meeting women. From the late 1960s until the mid-2000s, this was the primary way people met strangers for dating purposes when they didn't have an adequate social network. Night game is best for those who are more extroverted and energized by social interaction. In the era before tech-based game existed (before the early 1990s) or became de-stigmatized (early 1990s to mid-2000s), plenty of introverts were trying to approach strangers in nightlife venues. It generally didn't go well for a lot them.

Day game is a good option for introverts that aren't socially awkward. It's more subdued than most nightlife environments and women are isolated from their friends. The biggest challenge in day game is reading social cues. It's less conventional to approach strangers in non-bar venues so it takes a little bit more social calibration.

Tech-based game would seemingly be perfect for introverts. It seems awesome to be able to sit at home and arrange dates. It's never lived up to the hype. For over a decade, it was stigmatized to use tech-based methods. That era has long since passed. Ratios have always been a problem in tech-based game. Men have always far outnumbered women in the use of tech-based methods. Some more recent stats show that 76% of regular Tinder users are male and about 65% of Hinge/Bumble users are male. The odds are not in women's favor and women have big time abundance of options there. Most introverts do not have enough Followers on Instagram to warrant doing Instagram DMs.

Social circle can be effective for a subset of introverts who are socially calibrated and who have enough social connections.

Once an introvert gets a date/some dates from one of these 4 primary methods, how does he keep her attracted long enough to have sex with him? He needs to find a way to connect with her meaningfully. Rationality isn't going to work well. He needs to give her some sort of positive emotional reaction. That can be challenging for some introverts, especially guys with STEM type interests.

 

[Gamisch]

The follow up to the recently gaining in "popularity " 30 y.o virgin.

It's always a case of having missed out during puberty in combination with a hardcore bluepilled mindset that tells them that "she" will appear somewhere some day.

She won't. And the sad thing is that more and more men ending up like this.

Again if a man dont wanna play the game NOBODY will miss him. You gotta make yourself such a "rare commodity " that women FORCE you to play the game with them. If you dont, you'll get nothing.

 

[RickTheToad]

A BaldCel, FrameCel, ShortCel, FaceCel & SoyCel.

He's sounds feminine.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Mostly a mental issue from what I've seen. The guys that are incel at that age aren't OK looking and tall. Not good looking enough for girls to hit on them. But, good enough to get a woman if they put in the effort. But they haven't. And they won't.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

not good looking enough for girls to hit on them, oh please, girls normally never hit on guys, or normally never shoot their shot with guys they like

 

[Hamurabimbi]

not good looking enough for girls to hit on them, oh please, girls normally never hit on guys, or normally never shoot their shot with guys they like

key word ‘normally’

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Corrected my previous post:


Mostly a mental issue from what I've seen. The guys that are incel at that age are OK looking and tall. Not good looking enough for girls to hit on them. But, good enough to get a woman if they put in the effort. But they haven't. And they won't.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

key word ‘normally’

absolutely, thats how its always been and probably always will be

 

[Hamurabimbi]

absolutely, thats how its always been and probably always will be

I should rephrase this: "women don't commonly approach men." At least in my experience. They certianly do. I would't say it is 'common'. But i also wouldn't say it is 'rare.'

 

[MatureDJ]

You gotta make yourself such a "rare commodity " that women FORCE you to play the game with them. If you dont, you'll get nothing.

It's OVER for AbundantCommodityCels.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

I should rephrase this: "women don't commonly approach men." At least in my experience. They certianly do. I would't say it is 'common'. But i also wouldn't say it is 'rare.'

don't worry i believe you, its just that i strongly believe, women who approach men, or women who ask men out, will always be in the extreme minority, i just don't see it ever becoming more common, doesn't seem possible, women approaching men or asking men out just as much as the reverse, that would be like Lions and Tigers changing from carnivores to herbivores, not possible.