Victoria's Secret Model: Ordinary Guys Don't Have a Chance to Get a Date With Us

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Men don't understand women but they can learn to understand them (that's what Sosuave is for :))

Once you understand women, you are way ahead of them, because they do not understand themselves either! They think they do... They think they want certain things or a certain man, they are absolutely sure of it (of course they do, wouldn't it be weird if you don't even know what you want?) But in practice, they really don't! Most common example is they think they want a decent, nice guy but in reality they want a jerk. It's not something they tell the outside world because they think that's what others want to hear, they really believe themselves when they say they want a nice guy. Yet, when the jerk seduces them, it clearly shows they don't know what they want.

I've experienced it many, many times in life and I've read it in countless stories on here. I lol'd hard when I read that article and the statements that girl made. If only she knew...:)
 

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There is an element of truth to this...when I ran into that east-German runway model in Vegas that one time, she opened ME. :p But Rollo is right-on.

What you have to remember is that women who are deemed that attractive are getting so bombarded by guys' overtures that they tend to get overwhelmed and shut them ALL down, simply because they don't have a chance to filter out the ones they LIKE from the ones they DON'T LIKE.

By putting out a challenge like this and creating the illusion of a "higher league", it narrows the potential suitors to only the most confident of men.

Now there are a lot of d-bags at that top-confidence threshold too, but there are also a lot of good men there as well...the ratio is probably about the same, though, and at least the d-bags at that level usually have something to keep the girls amused. (i.e. they're trying to "front" real value and will give the girls whatever to look rich/famous/powerful/confident)

In the end, the so-called "top-tier" girls are human. The secret they DON'T want you to know is that even in that top-tier of looks, the ratios are pretty much the same.

Take ten average girls at random...there may be one or two that you could stand to be around for more than a night of f**king at a time. The rest are vapid, flaky chicks with no substance.

Now take ten supermodels...you're probably looking at the same odds. There is probably one, maybe two, that you would actually want to hang around for more than f**king...the rest would just p*ss you off over time. The "high-class" AFCs can HAVE those girls. :p

Honestly, if a girl started rattling off a list of what she demands in a man, I'd likely chuckle, walk away, and start talking to her friend.

I remember one time I went on a double-date with a buddy of mine (just winging for him really) and the other girl started going off about her lofty expectation for a guy. I probably should've been better-calibrated, but I wasn't feeling her really, so I just came straight out with it..."So what makes YOU deserving of such an awesome guy??" You could tell she was in shock that I'd even question that...after a short pause, she returned with something cheesy like, "Because I'd take CARE of MY man!". Which of course implied sexual favors. Women are like real-estate flippers...they refuse to believe what they're selling isn't worth a fortune.
 

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squirrels said:
I remember one time I went on a double-date with a buddy of mine (just winging for him really) and the other girl started going off about her lofty expectation for a guy. I probably should've been better-calibrated, but I wasn't feeling her really, so I just came straight out with it..."So what makes YOU deserving of such an awesome guy??" You could tell she was in shock that I'd even question that...after a short pause, she returned with something cheesy like, "Because I'd take CARE of MY man!". Which of course implied sexual favors. Women are like real-estate flippers...they refuse to believe what they're selling isn't worth a fortune.
hahahahha, that's brilliant...!
 

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Total bullshyt here! It might be true of australian chicks, because they;re all insane, but this horse isn't saying anything congruent with my experiences with supermodels. I'm not so out of the ordinary, but have pulled girls of way higher caliber than her. However, I have never had any luck with Aussies and I think it's because they have an attitude similar to hers. One night, I pulled one on the street and she wanted me to come have an orgy at her place with her friends. We were walking back back and she said that I should or shouldn't do something (I forget which, it was trivial). I told her I'd say/do as I pleased. She got pissed off and said if I didn't tak it back that I couldn't have group sex with them. I told her she could take her ugly overweight friends (not that I even saw them and she wasn't bad looking) and shove them up her ass and walked away.
 

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From the article:
"If you see me, or another model, in a bar wait until you are spoken too before you speak,”
Well, they always say confidence is sexy, and you don't get much more confident than this. Problem is, this reaches the level of arrogance. But don't women usually end up doing the choosing anyway?

“If we are interested in you we will make the first move," she says.
Based on what, I wonder? If the guys aren't allowed to speak to her, I guess she will approach a guy based totally on looks? And the vibe the guy is putting off, I suppose.

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Have a Look
Interesting bit by Adam Corollo. I've seen this idea espoused before: Be a type. Be a type of guy women fantasize about. Don't just be an average guy, a middle of the road guy. Make some sort of statement. And it also reminds me of peacocking. Look at Mystery's fuzzy hat. What kind of type is Adam Corollo supposed to be though? He seems to dress fairly normal.
 

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Never forget, for every hot, single, woman available on the sexual market there's a guy who's sick of all her bullsh!t.
 

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it's alot like, a kid and his first car. when he's 15 years old,k he has all these demands for his first car. for me, I had to have a maroon 2001 eclipse, manual transmission with a sunroof.

then, when you are stuck, with a 10 year old toyota, you are happy.


and not only that, and i mean this witih all honesty, women with those types of demands without understanding that they have to bring something to the table besides being very ****able, honestly, don't do anything for me. way too high mainteince and take away from other aspects of life. givfe me a very cute down to earth hb 7-8 who understands what it means to be a woman any day of the week over that.


there are three levels of women

1. ;women you won't ****

2. women you will **** nd don't want anyone to know you ****ed them

3. women you will **** and don't mind if people know you ****ed her


regardless of how hot a woman is, she's in that third catogory. her model is not a tangiable asset. I'm not going to be anymore happier with her than I am with my woan now, because she's a model, both are hot. her b eing a model is not going to improve my overall quality of life. that's what the model doesn't comprehend.
 
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backbreaker said:
it's alot like, a kid and his first car. when he's 15 years old,k he has all these demands for his first car. for me, I had to have a maroon 2001 eclipse, manual transmission with a sunroof.

then, when you are stuck, with a 10 year old toyota, you are happy.


and not only that, and i mean this witih all honesty, women with those types of demands without understanding that they have to bring something to the table besides being very ****able, honestly, don't do anything for me. way too high mainteince and take away from other aspects of life. givfe me a very cute down to earth hb 7-8 who understands what it means to be a woman any day of the week over that.

what he said!
 

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I agree you shouldn't take women's advice on how to pick up women.

However, if you put yourself in a beautiful woman's shoes for a moment, imagine the daily ordeal of having 100 dudes every hour trying to get with you. So I can fully understand why they would try to preemptively shut down 99.9999% of men from hitting on them.

Imagine if every fugly chick within eyesight made clumsy attempts to "open" you and get your phone number everywhere you went and no matter what you were doing. It might be entertaining for a week, but after that you'd just want to get your sh1t done when you were out rather than having to engage with women you had absolutely no interest in whatsoever.

Such is the life of a model. When half of all dudes who see you hit on you, you get jaded pretty quick. I can't even imagine what that would be like. Even average and below-average women get hit on more in a year than any guy here gets hit on in a lifetime.
 

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Don't take any advice on women from women. The main thing you need to do is make her pu$$y tingle. Women try to shut men down, but make her wet and you can bypass her barriers.

Case closed.
 

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I don't go for these heavy makeup anorexic chicks. And I can't see how these toothpick beatchs could be any good in bed either. I bet they just lay there waiting for you to please them "only"...heh.
 

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Zarky said:
I agree you shouldn't take women's advice on how to pick up women.

However, if you put yourself in a beautiful woman's shoes for a moment, imagine the daily ordeal of having 100 dudes every hour trying to get with you. So I can fully understand why they would try to preemptively shut down 99.9999% of men from hitting on them.

Imagine if every fugly chick within eyesight made clumsy attempts to "open" you and get your phone number everywhere you went and no matter what you were doing. It might be entertaining for a week, but after that you'd just want to get your sh1t done when you were out rather than having to engage with women you had absolutely no interest in whatsoever.

Such is the life of a model. When half of all dudes who see you hit on you, you get jaded pretty quick. I can't even imagine what that would be like. Even average and below-average women get hit on more in a year than any guy here gets hit on in a lifetime.
most guys don't have the balls to approach a woman that hot.

while they aren't at home watching movies on Saturdays, they don't get approached as much as you think. hell guys have trouble approaching a woman at the library let alone a bonified model.

in fact, that's EXACTLY what would get one of these broads lol, a guy saying look, okay you are good looking, and still approach her like a regular woman with the confidence of someone who doesn't give a **** if she says yes or no.

this attitude, just comes from being told how beautiful they are and by their profession, not from being approached time and time again in


back when i first got some plates when i was 21, the heat played the pistons in little rock pre season game. all the heat cheerleaders went to this club called called discovery. i had no idea, but i went there every saturday night.; so I am in ther and there is this group of like 10 smokin hot women together and all these dudes just looking at them, so i asked one of them lol, who the hell are you guys. they told me. now, a combination of being pretty tispy, this site, and already having like 4 plates and just ****ing off, i mean what's the worse that can happen?, i found the one i was the most attracted to, a short haired brunette, and i grabbed her and just said look we are going to dance lol. she laughed and said okay. we hit it off pretty well, she introduced me to her friends, all of them were pretty cool, just, good looking women who happened to be cheerleaders.

long story short, their hotel happened to be a few blocks from my apartment, maybe 4 miles, i took her home, she spent the night, dropped her off in the morning. cool as ****. just, no one would talk to them lol.; we even went to the waffle house before going home. and the few that did, came t them like tey were goddesses or something who should be worshiped rather than women who were looking to have a good time
 

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backbreaker said:
most guys don't have the balls to approach a woman that hot.

while they aren't at home watching movies on Saturdays, they don't get approached as much as you think. hell guys have trouble approaching a woman at the library let alone a bonified model.

in fact, that's EXACTLY what would get one of these broads lol, a guy saying look, okay you are good looking, and still approach her like a regular woman with the confidence of someone who doesn't give a **** if she says yes or no.

this attitude, just comes from being told how beautiful they are and by their profession, not from being approached time and time again in


back when i first got some plates when i was 21, the heat played the pistons in little rock pre season game. all the heat cheerleaders went to this club called called discovery. i had no idea, but i went there every saturday night.; so I am in ther and there is this group of like 10 smokin hot women together and all these dudes just looking at them, so i asked one of them lol, who the hell are you guys. they told me. now, a combination of being pretty tispy, this site, and already having like 4 plates and just ****ing off, i mean what's the worse that can happen?, i found the one i was the most attracted to, a short haired brunette, and i grabbed her and just said look we are going to dance lol. she laughed and said okay. we hit it off pretty well, she introduced me to her friends, all of them were pretty cool, just, good looking women who happened to be cheerleaders.

long story short, their hotel happened to be a few blocks from my apartment, maybe 4 miles, i took her home, she spent the night, dropped her off in the morning. cool as ****. just, no one would talk to them lol.; we even went to the waffle house before going home. and the few that did, came t them like tey were goddesses or something who should be worshiped rather than women who were looking to have a good time
There's some truth to this...this is only one side of the story, though. It's not generally that clear, that "they just don't get approached". They DO get approached, just not under the circumstances they care to. ;)
 

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They really, don't get approached that much. At least from my experience.

Men, hell women, people, do not like to task risks. You have to keep in mind, how different we are here. The avg person, approaches people that they feel is within their "realm". while they admire, worship, bow down to the beauty of the model, they don't approach her because they "know" they have no chance.

I know a woman, who is pretty freaking hot, and like she will say something belittling herself (besides being hot, she's actually quite humble, i know, shocking) and some guy, usually more than one will reassure her because of her looks she can have anything/do anything/be anything.

But as good looking as she is, she doesn't get approached.

You have men, who posture, who try to beat their chest in front of women that hot, who try to show off, but not often do they get approached.


what is sad is, beautiful is supposed to be a qualifier. how many women do from history do you remember, just because of their sheer beauty? Bathsheba, maybe Cleopatra, helen of troy. sure, I'm sure there were some smoking hot women back then but, it's not.. important. yet over the last 40 years, women have become too beautiful to talk to. it's ****ing pathetic. Even worse, guys, hell I for a long time, believe it.

I don't blame it on women however. It's our fault. It's the result of being lazy, having no ambition, no direction, no foundation of how to be a man. A real man knows that a woman's beauty, is simply one of her qualifying points to be with you, it's not the end all be off of the relationship,w hich is what it has become.
 

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The HB9 I use to date used to get approached constantly. Especially if it was later in the evening and there was alcohol around. They used to practically line up to take their turn to talk to her. I've never seen anything like it.
 

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"In brief, the gap-toothed Australian beauty warns ordinary guys everywhere -- stay away.

Spy a stunning model in a bar and thinking about trying your chances?

"Don't," the Sports Illustrated cover girl commands."

"If you see me, or another model, in a bar wait until you are spoken too before you speak,” she orders."

with a stinking attitude like that, who would want to approach her?
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

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