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Can someone help me please. Hear me out so you can answer better.

We met in Sept 2006. its Mar 2007. The attraction was instant. We started talking then started making out. She initiated kissing. I like everything about this girl. She has everthing i want in a woman, personality wise. Soon we got into each other. She is religious. She told me she is a virgin, she thinks. She says she intends to keep it that way till she gets married. But she initiates making out everytime i am with her. She told me she wanted me to ask her out officially - for the title:GF- I told her to give me time. A week later, when i asked her out, ROMANTICALLY, she said, "I will think about it".

When making out, if i touch her Tits, she freaks out and tell me to stop. Then she'll say "I think we are going too fast". Sometimes, she would let me finger her.... On some weekends, we go out, and after that, we spend the night togetger. But later, she calls me up and says, "she feels guilty whenever we make out.".. We both go to the same church. She says she feels like God is mad at her. But whenever we are together, she has a way of seducing me. Sometimes, I tell her to stop when she is kissing me seriously and breathing heavily like she is going to pass out. But when i get into it, she stops me. In several occasions, i have taken her panties off, we both completely naked. soon as my Dikc touches her Pus***y, she screems STOP!. Then she puts on her cloths again and say, "This gat to stop". About 2 months ago, she told me that we should "END THIS". I said ok and walked out. I did not call or follow up. She called me and start showing she cares. She came over to my apt and tried to preach to me with the bible that it is wrong to have sex and that is why she is hesitant.

I told her that i want a relationship potentially but I need to get to know her for who she is. She wants it potentially, but does not want the commitment. I know, it doesn't make sense. She said she would like to keep her options open. She said she has feelings for me. She said she wants to **** me, but does not want a relationship.

I want to **** her too, but i do not want our relationship to be based on sex, that is why i am not too eager on sex. Even when we both have been naked and i had the opportunity of forcing her to let me in, i did not force it. She told me she is a virgin, but from her story about her childhood, i think she was raped when she was 7yrs old.

What i think is that i should help find what she wants by forcing myself into her next time we get naked. I want her to be completely ready to have sex with me. But what i do not want is for her to want a relationship because i am ****ing her. I recently started feeling like she is almost ***** REMOTING ME. She care about me and i really like her,... can someone help me see the bigger picture so i can solve this puzzle.

One more thing. We were out on saturday when i had to introduce her to someone, for some reason, i introduced her as "my Girlfriend". When we got home, she told me that i should not refere to her as that again. She said she is not comfortable. Also, She mentioned on saturday "can we ever become friends without perks". She wants us to become just friends now. I have told her on several occasions that I want to be with her for who she is, not for sex only, but it seems like ****ing her is the only thing i can do now to get her emotions fully focused on me. Can someone tell me what is going on here?
 

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I want to **** her too, but i do not want our relationship to be based on sex, that is why i am not too eager on sex.
Been there. In my experience, that is a line you kinda have to cross together, especially if this is a girl you see as LTR material.

What i think is that i should help find what she wants by forcing myself into her next time we get naked.
....and the next thing you'll see is a cop forcing you into the back of a cruiser. Bluntly put, don't be so stupid.

Also, She mentioned on saturday "can we ever become friends without perks". She wants us to become just friends now.
Welcome to the friend zone. She was into you at one point, but it sounds like her interest level has dropped considerably. If she has any interest left, you could try disappearing for a while. Give her the gift of missing you. Quite often an absence will cause her to think about you more. Hopefully she will ponder how she has treated you (otherwise you'd still be around, right?). She may or may not come around. When I say disappear, I mean DISAPPEAR. No calls, emails, nothing, nada, zilch. See if she comes back to you.
 

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i think she was raped when she was 7yrs old.

I think that this girl doesn't want to have sex with you because she was raped. Why would she get butt naked with you and not screw and then to say it is because of her moral convictions.

No she doesn't want to have sex with you because she is mentally screwed up because of being raped in the past.


I have been there. I was with a girl for 9 months that was raped. It was the worst fvcking sex I have ever had in my life. The sad thing is I felt sorry for her and she ended up fvcking me over in the end. Girls like this are fvcked up in the head.


DO NOT PURSUE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS WOMAN.

If anything do a hit and run. Bang her and get out.


GOOD LUCK :up:


LOOKYOUNG
 

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Lookyoung, You're a moron. Just because she was raped doesn't mean that thats why she doesn't want to have sex with him. It looks more like religious reasons to me, or she's game playing.

And what the hell man? Just because she was raped doesnt mean that she's bad at sex. Maybe she only seemed bad because she was bored with your lap-pinkie? I dated a girl who had been raped and it was easily the best sex I have ever had.

You'd probably have some issues too if you had been raped. It doesn't mean you're ****ed in the head. It means some idiot decided to take the "Hit and run" attitude, and stole her innocence.

Hit the showers.


Topgetter; I'm going to say this really carefully just so I don't understate it.

If you force yourself on her, you are scum and the only relationship that you will need to be worrying about is the one between you and your cellmate.

And I assure you, that is one relationship that WILL be based on sex.

So put that out of your mind right now.

The way I'm reading it is that she is very confused or playing games.
Either way, you don't want to be persuing it.

She either initially liked you and has cooled, or she likes the attention and wants to keep you on the hook for as long as possible.

My advice is to cut and run. If you hang around, not only do you have to negotiate your way through the sex dilemma, but also the big bag of issues she has brought along from the rape, and from what I am hearing; neither you nor her really wants to deal with that right now.

It's not worth it man. Get back out there and do it NOW
 
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topgetter said:
She came over to my apt and tried to preach to me with the bible that it is wrong to have sex and that is why she is hesitant.
She did this?!? Run and run fast. I've tried my luck with some religious girls and gotten nowhere, but not one of them did this! This girl is a trainwreck waiting to happen.
 

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Let me see if I got this right :

- She was raped when she was 7.
- She is a realigius zealot.
- She's got tons of issues that you havn't even touched the surface of.

And you still want to have a ltr with this girl?

:nono:


Trust me when I say that you should stay away from chicks with mental issues such as this one. They will bring you nothing more than pain and suffering in the long end.
 

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Snowyk said:
Lookyoung, You're a moron. Just because she was raped doesn't mean that thats why she doesn't want to have sex with him. It looks more like religious reasons to me, or she's game playing.
LOL. I am a moron. Let me explain myself. If she was really religious she would not get naked with him. She would avoid the situation. Girls will play games but not by bringing a bilble to the guys house. Idiot many girls who have been raped don't enjoy sex like a girl who has been in healthy relationships.

And what the hell man? Just because she was raped doesnt mean that she's bad at sex. Maybe she only seemed bad because she was bored with your lap-pinkie? I dated a girl who had been raped and it was easily the best sex I have ever had.

From my real world experience and what statistics say girls who have been raped are not the best in bed. Fvck 10 girls who have been raped and bang 10 chicks who have not. If I had been raped as a child I am sure I would not be as passionate in the bedroom as I am now.

You'd probably have some issues too if you had been raped. It doesn't mean you're ****ed in the head. It means some idiot decided to take the "Hit and run" attitude, and stole her innocence.
Of course I would have issues. Rape is a traumatic thing. And if I would have been raped as a child I would bury the guy who did it alive. Hit and run is when you fvck a girl that wants to fvck you. After u fvck her you lose interest and ignore her. You did not steal her innocence moron.



My advice is to cut and run. If you hang around, not only do you have to negotiate your way through the sex dilemma, but also the big bag of issues she has brought along from the rape, and from what I am hearing; neither you nor her really wants to deal with that right now.
Thanks for flaming me and then agreeing with everything i said. Who is the moron now?
 

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Welcome back topgetter! Er... alphaace?

I see you found the return key, and are adding some punctuation like I told you to here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=119579

But your spelling is still horrible, as are your capitalization and verb agreement skills. Plus, your format is still the same: Help quick! My oneitus of X time is in a ridiculous situation: old, fat, single mother, previously raped, religious, whatever. I'm completely ridiculous: maybe a rapist, divorced, fat, masturbate too much, addicted to drugs and porn, have 6 kids and married, whatever. Any thoughts? I don't know what to do!

Tell us, what is so "Very Urgent" about this? Should we hurry up and read the troll? You're getting negative rep, this post is being reported, and you're being put on my ignore list. Way to post in your other troll thread... as if that's fooling anyone.
 

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I had a similar woman in college. Well, I shouldn't say "had" her. I should say "I made out passionately with a rape victim who had been receptive and affectionate in the past, who went bat+sh** when I put my hand down her pants."

Turns out 3 of my friends had the same experience.

Really very sad. A beautiful, intelligent college grad who ended up a third-rate stripper.I hope the b@stard who did that to her burns in hell.

Pity this girl and move on. She's got too many issues to be your girlfriend. If you care about her, you won't "force it in" either, because you'll mentally take her right back to her rape.

Wouldn't exactly be mind blowing sex imo.

Leave this defective to the beta males who won't mind the "friend zone." . NEXT!
 

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The answer is really simple.

At this rate, you're not going to have sex any time soon. And despite this, you still wanted to be committed to her (referring to her as your "girlfriend" etc.) Her inability to be comfortable with sex as well as your expressed eagerness to have her be your girlfriend is likely what landed you in the friend zone.

You really have no choice but to stop seeing her. If she asks, just explain it simply. Don't act upset. Just act like you lost interest. Whatever you do, don't be her friend.
 

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As for the rape issue - it all depends on how she was raped. My brother had an ex-girlfriend who was raped and according to him she was into the kinkiest sh¡t and was constantly begging him to have sex with him.

For the rest... You've been LJBF'd. Best thing to do now is to find out where it went wrong (I think you probably have an idea) and move on.
 

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If i read your post right, it sounds like to me she wants to be your FB but not have a relationship. Dude, you're getting the dream package offered, and you dont want to take it? She's probably hesitating with the sex because she's afraid you're going to get too attached. People that want a FB relationship are always nervous they'll create a "stage 5 clinger" if they have sex with said person, like possibly you?
 

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This reads like the beginnings of a grade-Z movie.

What i think is that i should help find what she wants by forcing myself into her next time we get naked.
That would be rape. Don't go there.

I wouldn't assume this gal has been raped, but whatever the case may be, she's damaged goods. I wouldn't assume she's not attracted to you in a big way, either, but her religion and/or her past have completely poisoned her attitude toward sex.

Like the others say, she's clearly not LTR material, unless you're a total masochist. She's even said she wants sex but no relationship. A lot of the most repressed gals are among the most horny: it's like trying to cap a volcano with a bottle-cap. So she may have FB potential, but you have to let her take the lead or at least give you the go-ahead. But don't be surprised if she hates you for going along and leading her to eternal damnation.
 

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Bonhomme said:
That would be rape. Don't go there.
Saying "stop" after theyre nakid, when his actual dic* is touching her p****? I think we have a lot of wanna-be lawyers that have a very liberal, and not legally supported view of what constitutes rape. Lets go a bit further, do you think you could have been f****** some girl for a minute or two and then she can also say stop while you're pounding her? Of course she can request that, and of course you can choose to comply, but are we discussing what you should do or what you have to legally do, because i'm afraid they aren't necessarily the same thing. Long ago in high school, I used to hear people say "you can't rape the willing". I believe its still true.

In a perfect and considerate world, people would be respectful and stop when a woman says stop. I know I would because i'm a considerate person. However, in law though, you can pass a point of no return. If he's putting it in, i bet that point has been passed, and you simply aren't going to get a jury to convict on that. If i was on the jury, i can guarantee you there wouldn't be a conviction.
 

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Did you even see the quote that referred to, azanon? The key words there were "forcing myself."

When a gal is willing, you don't have to "force yourself."

I despise "politically correct" pseudofeminism as much as anyone else, but the very definition of rape is forced sex. Don't be dumbasses, guys, or you may be taught the meaning of rape by your 6'6", 270 pound cell mate Bubba!
 

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Bonhomme said:
Did you even see the quote that referred to, azanon? The key words there were "forcing myself."

When a gal is willing, you don't have to "force yourself."

I despise "politically correct" pseudofeminism as much as anyone else, but the very definition of rape is forced sex. Don't be dumbasses, guys, or you may be taught the meaning of rape by your 6'6", 270 pound cell mate Bubba!
I didn't focus so much on semantics, rather on what he specifically detailed. His description was that she was 1. completely unclothed and 2. (implied) legs opened ready to receive him, and he had made it so far that his member was actually touching her. She can still say stop at that point, but if he doesn't, I seriously doubt that what actually happened (despite what was said) would constitute rape.

A woman unclothed with her legs open waiting for a man to enter her, is basically saying, "I have made the decision that you can have sex with me so I am preparing myself for you to do just that".

This comes down to accountability, so if a woman goes that far before she tries to put on the brakes, then clearly she needs to accept some accountability for it.

If he continued on anyway, then that makes him a jerk and an a$$hole. Nothing more in my book.
 

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Prosecutors certainly focus on semantics.

His description was that she was 1. completely unclothed and 2. (implied) legs opened ready to receive him, and he had made it so far that his member was actually touching her. She can still say stop at that point, but if he doesn't, I seriously doubt that what actually happened (despite what was said) would constitute rape.
She'd have to be pretty emphatic at that point for it to be what I'd call "forcing oneself."

In any case, if one gets a gal worked up enough, she'll often be so tantalized that she'll lead his c0ck down there with her own hands or beg for sex. Looks like this gal is the type who would do just that. If the gal's into you, and you have halfway decent skills, this need not be an issue at all.
 

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And don't get me wrong; my advise to any man would be to stop if a woman says to stop; even if you're inside her, and no matter how much doing so sucks, for the simple reason that its obviously best to avoid even being accused of a crime, whether you're innocent or not.
 

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UPdate Update:::

Background: It was a friends BDay this weekend, so we all went out to see da movie 300. She planned da evening cuz the guy is her best friend. Nwayz, both of us went on time and reserved sit for everyone that was suppose to come out. She specially arranged for both of us to sit together, bought a bag of pop corn with extra butter and a large cup of my favorite - ice tea with no ice-... we both shared it. I delibrately abstained from touching her,... but she was so uncomfortable cuz she is used to me initiating the touching cuz i am a strong kinesthetic. She eventually rolled up and tried to cuddle with me but the sits was uncomforable.

Two nights ago, I had to stay up in school so late to study. She prepared dinner and brought it over in a nice take-out. Both of us ate and i felt like a king. She told me that one of her greatest fear is that she does not know what to do in a relationship, cuz she's never had any, but everything she does for me is basically what i want and she even goes beyound my expectations.

I have read every response in this thread. I feel like almost everyone is majoring on the fact that she might have been raped. When she told me, her tone and expression was not like; "poor me". It was more like, ; "this was what happened to me, just so you know"... She has never told anybody. She has told me alot of her secrets that i almost feel like she is trusting me a little bit too much. I feel like she is worried that if we get into a relationship, i might be expecting sex from her. I think she wants a christain type relationship; one without sex. She told me last year that even if we end up having sex, she doesn't want it to be planned. She wants it, she doesn't want me to expect it, she just wants it to happen when she is ready...

Have any of you had a relationship without sex? Did it go anywhere, what happened? Sex is not really a big issue for me, but lets face the fact, i am a guy for heavens sake, i need to spread my seeeeedddssss!!!
 

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lookyoung said:
I think that this girl doesn't want to have sex with you because she was raped. Why would she get butt naked with you and not screw and then to say it is because of her moral convictions.

No she doesn't want to have sex with you because she is mentally screwed up because of being raped in the past.


I have been there. I was with a girl for 9 months that was raped. It was the worst fvcking sex I have ever had in my life. The sad thing is I felt sorry for her and she ended up fvcking me over in the end. Girls like this are fvcked up in the head.


DO NOT PURSUE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS WOMAN.

If anything do a hit and run. Bang her and get out.


GOOD LUCK :up:


LOOKYOUNG

I've been in a relationship with a girl similar to your story. And yes I would agree with you by staying the f#ck away from these girls.
 
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