Vegetarian

[EyeBRollin]

Any of you guys vegetarian or vegan?

I recently became pescatarian (veg but I still eat fish).

Discuss.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Full time? No. But I do enjoy a sporadic vegetarian or vegan meal here and there. Just to mix things up.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Full time? No. But I do enjoy a sporadic vegetarian or vegan meal here and there. Just to mix things up.

Interesting. What vegan meals do you like?

 

[Dr.Suave]

Interesting. What vegan meals do you like?

Most of my mornings I have a Vegan Shake, Its called "Habits by not a fancy kitchen", Only vegan shake that tastes good of the ones I have tried.

Sometimes I have Migitas con Huevo for breakfast. Not Vegan because of the egg but doesnt have any meat.

I remember I went to a buffet once. They had Lasagna AND Veggie Lasagna. I tasted both and the one without meat somehow tasted better.

There was a place near my house that had a great Vegan Burrito with Oatmeal Chicharron but it went out of business.

Not Vegan but 6 Cheese Pizza or Mushroom Pizza are great options without meat.

Another non vegan option I like without meat is a simple Sandwich of Queso Panela and Aguacate.

Vegan Burgers (Beyond Patty or Impossible Patty actually taste great).

There´s probably more but those are the ones off the top of my head.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Vegan Burgers (Beyond Patty or Impossible Patty actually taste great).

Beyond and impossible taste really good! However, I avoid them completely. If you read the ingredients they are highly processed garbage, and have just as much saturated fat as regular beef.

Overall, I’ve experimented with a few different faux meat products. Most of them taste very similar to meat. The trick is trying to find the least processed options.

In general, vegetarian plates really should look the same as omnivorous plates. Just swap out meat with legumes.

 

[typical]

I couldn’t eat “Vegan” meat it’s just far too processed for my liking. I’d rather just defrost the lamb or beef that I went and slaughtered myself at the local farm.

Having said that I have plenty of vegetarian meals throughout the week just with a side of poached or fried eggs or pea protein ..... older I get the less milk products I can have

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I don't really see the point of being vegetarian or pescatarian though it could be an interesting experiment. Going flat out vegan is just silly though.

The worst kind of foods are unquestionably the processed ones with seed oils (canola oil in particular). Funny enough, if you go vegan most of your meals will probably be processed garbage or just high in carbs (unless you think you can only eat basic greens for most of your meals).

 

[BackInTheGame78]

No...I tried it for 6 months back about 6 or 7 years ago when I was super into working out and eating healthy. Kept hearing everyone talk about how much better they felt when they gave up meat and I was eating copious amounts of chicken on a daily basis.

I did not notice any difference whatsoever after 6 months so I decided to go back to eating meat. I was actually surprised that after eating that much chicken every day that I did not miss it at all. Or even meat in general.

So I probably could go back to be a vegetarian pretty easily but don't see the point honestly.

 

[f(x)]

I’m not vegetarian but I suggest a good Indian buffet. Plenty of beans, rice, and veggies.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I don't really see the point of being vegetarian or pescatarian though it could be an interesting experiment. Going flat out vegan is just silly though.

The worst kind of foods are unquestionably the processed ones with seed oils (canola oil in particular). Funny enough, if you go vegan most of your meals will probably be processed garbage or just high in carbs (unless you think you can only eat basic greens for most of your meals).

That’s dishonest. The whole point of going vegetarian is to be whole food based. And high carb diets are perfectly fine so long as they are healthy carb sources (whole grains, fruit, and legumes).

I made the change due to cholesterol problems. I believed all the recent junk studies that said meat and eggs don’t affect cholesterol levels much. Well… they most certainly do.

 

[Snag87]

You slaughter the meat yourself? Jesus, that’s macabre. Did you do a little dance round a fire and hold the still beating heart aloft before devouring it, and then bellowed at the moon with blood running down your chin?

serious though, you….you go to a farm and actually kill the animals? wTF?

How is it macabre? If you can't stomach killing an animal for consumption, why should you be able to pay some unfortunate individual to do it for you?

 

[Snag87]

Why would you want to?

Because you want to eat the animal. If killing an animal for consumption is too macabre for you, why should you pay another individual to do it?

Would anyone find harvesting fruits and vegetables too macabre? There's an obvious distinction here.

 

[Snag87]

I don’t want to pick fruit and veg and I wouldn’t want to slaughter my own food. Wanting to do this rather than a trainee professional suggests you enjoy the act of killing.

Id put my dog down if it needed to die but I wouldn’t insist on being the one to kill it.

i think you’re either getting some big man feeling from it, a sadist, or you’re caught up in some kind of hunting/macho idea and think you’re a Neolithic caveman.

Specifically requesting to kill an animal when someone can do it for you is straight up weird. There is something you get from the act, and you haven’t defined it other than “if you can’t kill it you shouldn’t eat it”

Thats a non sequitur, it’s like saying if you can’t mill grain you shouldn’t eat bread.

Do you harvest your own vegetables? Did you make your own car?

Dude, having a pastime killing animals when you don’t need to is psycho. It’s not supposed to be enjoyable, it’s supposed to be a pretty nasty job you get someone else to do. By paying them so you don’t have to, not something you sign up to do for the fun of it.

I don't consume animals or their secretions. One of the reasons being I feel it's morally wrong to kill animals, and I wouldn't have anyone commit the act for me. I very seldom harvest my own grains, vegetables and fruits, but I have in the past and would certainly would have no objection to doing so again.

I wish all individuals who consumed animals had to kill the animal themselves, as I know it would lead to a drastic reduction in animal consumption.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I thought this would be more of a nutrition or recipe discussion more than animal rights lol

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

That’s dishonest. The whole point of going vegetarian is to be whole food based. And high carb diets are perfectly fine so long as they are healthy carb sources (whole grains, fruit, and legumes).

I made the change due to cholesterol problems. I believed all the recent junk studies that said meat and eggs don’t affect cholesterol levels much. Well… they most certainly do.

It's without question great to be whole-food based, and yes I agree that high carb diets can be perfectly fine or even optimal.

However cutting out meat just seems like shooting yourself in the foot. Plus I do not remain convinced that high HDL cholesterol really matters - my distrust of the medical establishment comes in here as a bias, but you must admit they are completely clueless about diet.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It's without question great to be whole-food based, and yes I agree that high carb diets can be perfectly fine or even optimal.

However cutting out meat just seems like shooting yourself in the foot. Plus I do not remain convinced that high HDL cholesterol really matters - my distrust of the medical establishment comes in here as a bias, but you must admit they are completely clueless about diet

It’s not that controversial; the main cause of cardiovascular disease is having high Apo-B, of which is LDL is often a surrogate marker. Saturated and trans fats raise Apo-B. Replacing with unsaturated fats (nuts and fish) or healthy carbs lower Apo-B. That’s why Mr. Saladino now backtracked and eats fruit.

In my case, I may have some genetic predisposition because I wasn’t heavy on eggs, red meat, and did not eat butter at all. Still my LDL high and that is not good.

 

[typical]

You slaughter the meat yourself? Jesus, that’s macabre. Did you do a little dance round a fire and hold the still beating heart aloft before devouring it, and then bellowed at the moon with blood running down your chin?

serious though, you….you go to a farm and actually kill the animals? wTF?

My old man worked in the freezing works here in New Zealand. I learnt to cull and butcher animals since I can remember. I've also worked part time in a butchery when I was in my teens. I also know how to hunt, build a fire from scratch and light it without a flint, make deadfall traps and make a simple fishing rod and net ..... amongst a tonne of other survival skills.

Nothing wrong with going to your local farm and knowing exactly where your meat comes from and the health of the animal you're consuming. you sound like a woman "ewwww thats gross and disgusting do you have mental issues you psycho?"

 

[BackInTheGame78]

A very large percentage of Indian people are vegan or vegetarian.

 

[sangheilios]

Vegetarian is totally doable and should not be a challenge at all. The vast majority of my animal based proteins are from eggs and fat free greek yogurt. I do eat meat, I alternate a different type for dinner every day but the portions are honestly nothing at all heavy. I like ground bison, chicken thighs and salmon. I'll occasionally have a nice steak or very rarely will have a hot dog, meat lover's pizza, etc.

Vegan on the other hand is not really something I'd encourage. One, it's not at all difficult to develop some nutritional deficiencies and you will have to rely on supplements, particularly B12. Unless you are taking protein powders, your protein sources will either be very high in carbs or high in fat. It's just not a great diet to have overall and you'll struggle to make it work, not just physiologically but in regard to even just enjoying food.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Vegan on the other hand is not really something I'd encourage. One, it's not at all difficult to develop some nutritional deficiencies and you will have to rely on supplements, particularly B12. Unless you are taking protein powders, your protein sources will either be very high in carbs or high in fat. It's just not a great diet to have overall and you'll struggle to make it work, not just physiologically but in regard to even just enjoying food.

Vegans not getting enough protein is a myth. All plants have protein, among a diverse spectrum of amino acids. Protein deficiency happens to people who are malnourished overall. No one eating >2,000 calories from plant-based foods will have a protein deficiency. Legumes in particular are high in protein, and either are complete sources on their own or when paired with grains (hence why half the world eats rice and beans).

The vegan vitamin deficiencies however are real. One of the reasons I still enjoy fish and fat free / low fat dairy.