value of sex 4 women in a relationship

[Rollo Tomassi]

Originally posted by TheTrader
this goes totally against the article you linked about the importance of the man's sexual value being about 70% for women in a relationship. or do you mean it as they dont want sex as often as men but it's still the most important thing(quality sex) for a (young) woman in a relationship?

I've no idea what you're going on about. Want to link me back to what you're refering to?

 

[Nighthawk]

If you suck in bed, a woman will not want you at all.

If you are average-to-good in bed, a woman will want you like she wants dessert, ie fairly often.

If you are a total porn-star f*ck-machine stallion in bed (hello) a woman will CRAVE YOU LIKE HEROIN. And unless you are using a lot of lube you will not be able to keep up with her inner slut. Ask any woman.

 

[Colossus]

Originally posted by Nighthawk
If a woman doesn't want more sex than you then you aren't doing it well enough.

You can have all the inner game in the world, but fail to make her come, come, COME!! and you are a paper tiger.

There's a couple of good threads about being a good f*ck here somewhere, but if you needed telling, the key is dominance. And a big **** comes in handy. Or preferably, mouthy.

Whatever, bud. Some women just dont orgasm every time, regardless of a man's sexual prowess. You cant hit all women's buttons all the time. This picture says it all......

http://www.empirialproductions.com/Pictures/pleasure.jpg

What Rollo and the rest of us were saying is that while women may ENJOY sex as much as men, they just dont have the CAPACITY for it that we do.

Yes, there are exceptions to almost everything. Most of the statements made here are generalizations.

 

[Colossus]

This is a little off-topic, but priceless....:crackup:


http://www.empirialproductions.com/Pictures/Femalebrain.gif

 

[Nighthawk]

Originally posted by Colossus
Some women just dont orgasm every time, regardless of a man's sexual prowess.

I used to think that. Try pulling their hair more.

 

[Warlord]

it does matter. if the sex seems monotonous and it's treated as a duty or it just plain sucks - that means there are bigger problems in the relationship.

When I have sex with a girl I'm not into, man I just wanna get my O and then put on some clothes to get da hell out. When I have sex with a girl I'm into, I'm like a b1tch and all lovey dovey on them.

 

[Tazman]

I remember saying something like this a while ago. That's why I think the majority of "sexual" offenders are male. Look at how many guys look at porn, even guys who get laid. I remember back in middle school I had sex on my mind like 24/7, literally (still do to a lesser extent........well.......actually it's probably the same). Women realize this too, that's why they know they can flaunt their bodies and have men howling like wolves. Can you name one thing an average man could do to get women instantly turned on?

I was talking to my uncle (very religious, been married most his life) the other day and a young lady who was bending over to pick something up caught his attention. He didn't hear a word I said until he snapped out of it, if you knew him you'd be laughing your ass off.

 

[TheTrader]

Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
I've no idea what you're going on about. Want to link me back to what you're refering to?

http://spiritfingerspua.blogspot.com/2006/01/law-of-equal-value-contribution.html

Most guys don't realize this. Even ASF guys, who know, at least intellectually, that women want and need sex more than men. For all the talk about "escaping the Matrix" in the community, most sargers still have society's model of sex in their mind and don't realize just how important sex is to women.

This is a terrible routine invented by a low value guy who has no idea how female psychology actually works. Men only have to "pay" for sex with dates, gifts, etc. IF THEY ARE OF LOW SEXUAL VALUE. If they are of high sexual value, they can work the equation in the other direction and get women to buy them dinner, gifts, etc. in exchange for sex.

Women are controlled much more by their sexuality than men. They are constantly having sexual fantasies which they never tell anyone about -- about getting ****ed by a stranger, getting ****ed by two guys at once, getting gang-raped, etc. These sexual feelings are all the more intense because women are forced to repress them. Additionally, women experience at least ten times the pleasure men do in the bedroom. They can have many different types of orgasms, as well as having multiple orgasms in rapid succession. Additionally, because they are not the one in control of the intercation and are being dominated, the emotions and sensations they experience through sex are much more intense than ours.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

TRADER: You're quoting a link I used to illustrate the Equal Law of Value Contribution. While I do agree with this assessment of Value Contribution to a relationship I can't say as I agree with this guy's interpretation of female versus male need for sexuality. I would certainly agree that most guys don't realize the importance sex plays with women, most guys downplay this in an effort to justify their own inabilities to arouse a woman - however women KNOW from a very early age exactly how important sex is to men.

I would disagree that women are more controlled by their sexuality than men are. In fact the history of the world virtually revolves around the sexual control of men. He's accurate in his assessment that (at least western) culture has historically encouraged the repression of women's sexuality, but popular conception rarely gells with factual evidence. Vibrators were invented in the puritanical Victorian era and Lord only knows how many illegitimate children Ben Franklin sired in his day.

This isn't to say that women don't have multiple orgasms or unfulfilled fantasies, I'm sure they do, but to say that women's sexual drives match or exceed that of men's is a biological misnomer. It's a well studied fact that women's sexual appetites fluctuate with their ovulatory cycles and the hormones that prompt this.

My point in quoting this guy (perhaps inconsistently) was to present the idea of Equal Value Contribution, not to support this myth, but it serves as a valuable illustration now to show how prevalent this idea is.

 

[TheTrader]

okey thanks for clarifying your point.

 

[Nighthawk]

Everyone read the above link.

For example. Super-hottie invited herself over last night. That I'd banged her every which way a couple of days before and didn't care whether she came over or not just turned her on more.

I make her beg for it. I am the master. She must adore my c*ck, and risks 'punishment' for every 'mistake' she might make. I have conditioned her to make pleasing me (with her mouth mainly) her priority because she knows I will be able to repay the satisfaction tenfold.

Today she took the day off work to get f*cked some more, then she took me out and bought me lunch. She is happy to pay for most things, read the link to find out why. Then she seduced me into taking her back to my place so she could get treated like a ***** again.

She knows she is in no position to demand exclusivity, which again sends my status levels soaring. She is at my beck and call and loves it.

This is not an isolated incident. The last few women I've been involved with were all richer than me and bought me presents and paid for stuff. Granted I have been blessed with a large penis, but it's my sexually aggressive act and trained-for stamina and skills that have earned me this.

I've always been reasonably dominant in bed, but turned it up a few notches over the last couple of years and have since yet to find a woman who doesn't respond big-time to being treated like a worthless slut. The hotter they are the more they dig it.

This site is about self-improvement. I would suggest that unless you are regularly hearing from your woman/women that you are the greatest f*ck they have ever had, there is no more important area of your game to improve.

And learn how to flick their bras undone with one hand, they LOVE that.

 

[newbie81]

Originally posted by Nighthawk
If a woman doesn't want more sex than you then you aren't doing it well enough.

You can have all the inner game in the world, but fail to make her come, come, COME!! and you are a paper tiger.

There's a couple of good threads about being a good f*ck here somewhere, but if you needed telling, the key is dominance. And a big **** comes in handy. Or preferably, mouthy.

Don't feel guilty to not make her come, it's not always your fault.


read this article:

http://www.savethemales.ca/000441.html


peace.

 

[newbie81]

Originally posted by Nighthawk
Everyone read the above link.

For example. Super-hottie invited herself over last night. That I'd banged her every which way a couple of days before and didn't care whether she came over or not just turned her on more.

I make her beg for it. I am the master. She must adore my c*ck, and risks 'punishment' for every 'mistake' she might make. I have conditioned her to make pleasing me (with her mouth mainly) her priority because she knows I will be able to repay the satisfaction tenfold.

Today she took the day off work to get f*cked some more, then she took me out and bought me lunch. She is happy to pay for most things, read the link to find out why. Then she seduced me into taking her back to my place so she could get treated like a ***** again.

She knows she is in no position to demand exclusivity, which again sends my status levels soaring. She is at my beck and call and loves it.

This is not an isolated incident. The last few women I've been involved with were all richer than me and bought me presents and paid for stuff. Granted I have been blessed with a large penis, but it's my sexually aggressive act and trained-for stamina and skills that have earned me this.

I've always been reasonably dominant in bed, but turned it up a few notches over the last couple of years and have since yet to find a woman who doesn't respond big-time to being treated like a worthless slut. The hotter they are the more they dig it.

This site is about self-improvement. I would suggest that unless you are regularly hearing from your woman/women that you are the greatest f*ck they have ever had, there is no more important area of your game to improve.

And learn how to flick their bras undone with one hand, they LOVE that.

Topic is sex in a relationship

So basically you're saying that girl hangs out with you because you're a great **** that's all?

Does that tell something about you or about her?

peace.

 

[Nighthawk]

Sexual Value

Sexual value is by far the most important form of value you can contribute to a woman's life. It contributes about 70% of the value in a relationship, while social and monetary value combine for the other 30%.

Women judge a man approximately 70% on sexual criteria and 30% on everything else. People tell you that great relationships are build on compatibility and chemistry (social value). While you need social value too, the foundation of great relationships is always great sex. If you want to have good relationships, you must become good in bed. Otherwise, you'll only score 30/100 in her book, even if you do everything else right and financially support her.

If order to be extraordinary in bed, you must do two things. I writing a full post on becoming good in bed soon, but here's a brief summary.

1. Psychologically satisfy a woman by completely dominating her. At their core, women want a guy who will treat them like a piece of meat in the bedroom, that can pin her arms to the bed while he ****s the **** out of her and makes her tell him what a slut she is. Think Tyler Durden ****ing Marla Singer in Fight Club. That's what you're going for.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT how women want to be treated outside the bedroom! Given the choice, she will pick the guy who treats her like this all the time over a guy who cannot dominate her, but ideally she wants a guy who can love her and appreciate her as a person outside of bed, and also knows what she wants in bed. Most guys can't do this because they have inner game issues and are secretly disgusted by girls acting like sluts in the bedroom. You have to learn that there is nothing wrong with female sexual desire, and that she can be an intelligent and wonderful human being and still have those desires.

2. You must physically satisfy her needs by having the size, strength and stamina to **** her hard for long periods of times and make her ***. Obviously size you can't do much about size, but as long as your **** isn't freakishly small, it's nowhere near as important as strength and stamina is the bedroom. Increasing your strength and stamina is akin to training for a powerlifting event or a marathon. In order to become good you need some basic technique, then it is just a matter of training your body until you are a superstar.

You'll know when you're contributing more sexual value to the relationship than she is when she starts wanting sex more than you do. At this point, you are in control of the relationship. You are contributing more sexual value to it than her, and you can continue it on your terms indefinitely.

What he said.

Originally posted by newbie81
Topic is sex in a relationship

So basically you're saying that girl hangs out with you because you're a great **** that's all?

I can cook too.

 

[newbie81]

and you're a comedian!

 

[Kid Quick]

Frivolous, you are under 25 and do not belong posting here. Please respect the wishes of the mature men on this board and do not post here until you are 25. If you have a problem with the age requirement then PM the mods about it. I don't care if you think you're mature enough, or if you're trying to act like a rebellious teenager, or whatever. If this board does not have an age limit it will slowly deteriorate to the point where it's the same as the regular discussion board. The process has already begun thanks to you and several others who think they are above the rules. Being a true Mature Man involves respecting the board's rules whether or not you agree with them.

Thank you.