Vaginas: WMD's?

[ShortTimer]

Originally posted by seabreeze
I guess it's hard for me to fathom why any man would be afraid of a woman,

Ever studdied psychology before? Do you know what learned helplessness is? In the early days of psychology they put dogs in cages and zapped the **** out of them. The dog had no where to go and couldn't escape. After a while they opened the door to the cage but the dog wouldn't leave because it learned after a few hundred shocks that it was helpless to do anything about what was happening.

Some guys are like that too: they've been whipped and beaten down by women so much and for so long that they've learned they are ****ed no matter what they do. So either they don't approach or they only do so with great trepidation.

 

[MrCode]

This is a very beaten dead horse, and some people won't agree, but I think Western culture has played a large part in cultivating this fear of the puzzy (or rather of the woman who owns said puzzy.) Actually it may not be a fear of puzzy per se, but of male sexuality.

A lot of boys grow up in single mother homes, where they are bombarded with TV images of weak, worthless men on sitcoms and episodes of Mauri Povich or Jerry Springer. In addition their single moms bad mouth the father of the child, even if he isn't that bad of a man. A lot of times this also happens to boys who live with both parents. So the boy thinks that being with a woman and wanting sex is a bad thing, so he supresses his urges. Approaching women is not something he fears just because of the women: he fears his own sexuality. He also thinks he is "taking advantage" of the woman by having sex.

I know because I use to be this way.

But you know what: F*CK THAT!!! While I still have some fear of approaching women because of lack of some social skills (that I'm working on with the boot camp), I'm not afraid of my sexuality at all. I'm proud to be a man, and I know that women enjoy sex as much, if not more, than men do.

So now my fight is no longer with myself and unreasonable fear of being a man, but with a society that is trying to turn boys into mindless puzzies that can be controlled and manipulated by the media and by unethical women they may meet.

By the way seabreeze, I kind of regret saying this, but in general I do not trust women, and until she proves her worth, I consider any new woman to be an untrustworthy second class citizen. I also doubt that women have the kind of troubles dating that most men do. You can thank our society and militant misandrist feminism for causing me to feel this way.

 

[Ice Cold]

Originally posted by seabreeze
Ice Cold,

I think you have a very balanced way of looking at the power dynamics between the sexes. You've given me a lot to think about. I guess it all depends on how secure a man (or a woman) is when it comes to who's in control and who's private parts are destructive. I guess it's hard for me to fathom why any man would be afraid of a woman, ie, afraid to approach her, etc. I always view guys as having most of the power in relationships anyway. So, a lot of the things I'm reading here surprises the hell out of me.
SB

Well, I'm glad I made u think.

But then... as a girl... don't you like some parts of a male body? V shaped back? Penis? Don't you get a sexual drive when you see a strong cute guy? Don't u imagine him going over to you and bending you over?

 

[AFK Protector]

seabreeze, what attracts you to a man? Physically....cuz I know you're going to BS all that emotional stuff. lol. jp. But physically, what's desirable. I wanna hear it from your mou...fingers.

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by seabreeze
Guys,

I was showering this morning, doing the usual cleaning up, and just looked at my kitty. I looked at it and thought. "What is the big friggin deal?" Why does it seem to me now that vaginas are viewed as WMD's (Weapons of Male Destruction) to some of you guys. And it's not just the guys on this site---Askmen, Menshealth, and iVillage too! I mean, c'mon is it that scary? Is it true what Dr. Luv says: "A beautiful women, the most dangerous thing in the world." Nah! Couldn't be. Why do vaginas have so much power?

Okay, I guess what I'm really getting at is, how can we women put you guys more at ease? How can we let you guys know that you turn us on and you don't have to be afraid of us?

SB

Women have always had power to aquire sex through physical attraction.

For the longest time Men never had to aquire sex through physical attraction. Natural selection was such that a man could simply use his strength to take sex from any woman. As it stands now, our laws and social contructs prevent men from doing that.

So it is only natural that in our modern society, women have all the power over sex. Nothing has changed for women.

Most men, however, find that they don't have the natural instincts to play the same game. These instincts have to be learned.

You should keep this in mind and make it easy for us guys to open your legs We can't use our clubs anymore to knock you out so please be kind and give it up. As a girl you can just walk up to a guy and ask for it. so stop the **** blocking!

....
I can honestly say that if I was a cave man I would be a very happy man. I could get sex whenever i wanted just like a woman can today.

 

[seabreeze]

Wow! I just really don't know how to respond to all of the fantastic, intellectual comments that have made here. And this is why I've come back, despite some of the disparaging comments...

MetalFortress, Short Timer, Mr Code, Ice Cold....I'm speechless. You've rendered a chick speechless. Congratulations fellas.

I have to admit that I never used to feel this way, but I now feel like I've developed a fear of men. Not a bad fear, per se, but sort of an awe or a healthy respect for their power that I didn't have before. That's why I have a hard time reading how some of you guys have been conditioned in society to feel this way about women. You guys have the power! I walk around my college campus and I see all types of men and I just simply respect them, without even knowing them, I honestly do. I understand how much responsibility and power that men have in society, so much rests on their shoulders and that leaves me a little awestruck....and it also makes me see how sexy men are. There's just something about the masculine body, strong jawlines, powerful hands, semen, etc. It just makes me goosepimply all over. Even the little guys because you guys express your masculinity even through your eyes. There's no one on earth who can look at me with the same amount of sexual power, intensity, and strength like a man can. No one. And I love it.

So yes, as a female, I enjoy being submissive to men. It makes me feel good. I'm not talking about being beaten or dominated, but there's a calm that comes over me when I'm in a man's presence and I appreciate that. So, depending on the man, if he leads me I'll follow. If he needs me I'll submit, if he needs my body for pleasure it's his. He has nothing to fear....This is the reaction I have to my young friend I told everyone about. But, basically I think all women fantasize about this type of thing.

AFK,

I'm attracted to the strong silent type. The type of guy who tells me he wants me with his eyes. Who claims me with a simple touch---just a touch on my knee, my shoulder, respectfully. And then the look that simply says "your mine." That's all he needs to do and I'm his. Now this has only happened to me three times, cuz I've only been with three men. But, that was all it took. Physically, I usually like tall slender men, but I also find shorter men attractive especially if they are thin. I think men of all races are beautiful.
I hope I answered your questions.
SB

 

[seabreeze]

Hey Kevin,

Actually, I think that not much has changed since the caveman days accept that we don't live in caves anymore and you guys don't use clubs. In my view men still have the sexual power. Some men actually use their sexuality as a weapon (withholding sex and affection). And if a woman just simply walked up to you and said "f--k me please---hard" I'd imagine you'd think she was nuts or desperate! Believe me, there have been times when I've wanted to do just that but was afraid too. Now, I'm not desperate for sex, and I am very selective, but I have had my moments when I see a man and my instinct is to undress right then and there and lay down right in front of him.
SB

 

[00Kevin]

Originally posted by seabreeze
In my view men still have the sexual power. Some men actually use their sexuality as a weapon (withholding sex and affection).

You have got to be kidding me right? I would never withhold sex from my girl. even if I was totaly tried I would let her ride me.

Originally posted by seabreeze
And if a woman just simply walked up to you and said "f--k me please---hard" I'd imagine you'd think she was nuts or desperate! Believe me, there have been times when I've wanted to do just that but was afraid too.
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Seabrease, you would not be able to walk in the morning

 

[AMF]

Originally posted by seabreeze
Why do vaginas have so much power?

Because in all of natural biology, it is the FEMALE who chooses.

 

[Ice Cold]

MetalFortress, Short Timer, Mr Code, Ice Cold....I'm speechless. You've rendered a chick speechless. Congratulations fellas.

LOL

That's the easiest thing to do. But curiously it wasn't my intent. What makes you speechless?

Seabreeze: I like your behaviour:

1) look me in the eye
2) touch me
3) make love to me
4) keep your trap shut during the process, and I'm yours

And I thought humans have advanced a bit from the ice age

 

[cactus3178]

seabreeze,


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[seabreeze]

C'mon Ice Cold,

How could the image of a sexy man bending me over not render me speechless?
SB