Using a relationship to "trade up"

[Slash Dolo]

I know some folks here think having a relationship is a bad thing, and while not socially acceptable or "moral" I feel as if I need to shake things up. Let me explain.

Since I work from home, meeting new (attractive) women is a bit challenging as I only have time a few days a week to go out. I live in a small town and there just aren't that many, if any, cute girls around the area that you'll see when you go to the bar, a party or the grocery store. My in-person game has evolved to be really good; I'm confident I can attract just about any girl in person. But when meeting an attractive girl through social media or a dating site, it's incredibly hard and frustrating to get anything going due to their inflated egos due to orbiters and men chasing them. I can get numbers, but the hotter the girl, the more difficult it is to get them out to build rapport if they have no rapport with you already, which is the paradox. I'm spinning my wheels going nowhere; and my text game is good before anyone brings that up.

I have plates but they're 7-8s and I want to bang some 9s. So I'm thinking of dating one of these plates; simply the most attractive one and use that relationship to "trade up" so to speak. Being in a small town, word travels VERY fast of relationships and I know a lot of people. We all know women love a challenge and every time I've been in a relationship I've noticed how receptive other super hot chicks are to me. Is this moral? Not really, but wasting my valuable time trying to get flaky hotties out without rapport is more of a moral sin to me than this.

I expect a little hate for this and that's fine, but I'm wondering if anyone else has done this or currently does this and has seen results.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I know some folks here think having a relationship is a bad thing, and while not socially acceptable or "moral" I feel as if I need to shake things up. Let me explain.

Since I work from home, meeting new (attractive) women is a bit challenging as I only have time a few days a week to go out. I live in a small town and there just aren't that many, if any, cute girls around the area that you'll see when you go to the bar, a party or the grocery store. My in-person game has evolved to be really good; I'm confident I can attract just about any girl in person. But when meeting an attractive girl through social media or a dating site, it's incredibly hard and frustrating to get anything going due to their inflated egos due to orbiters and men chasing them. I can get numbers, but the hotter the girl, the more difficult it is to get them out to build rapport if they have no rapport with you already, which is the paradox. I'm spinning my wheels going nowhere; and my text game is good before anyone brings that up.

I have plates but they're 7-8s and I want to bang some 9s. So I'm thinking of dating one of these plates; simply the most attractive one and use that relationship to "trade up" so to speak. Being in a small town, word travels VERY fast of relationships and I know a lot of people. We all know women love a challenge and every time I've been in a relationship I've noticed how receptive other super hot chicks are to me. Is this moral? Not really, but wasting my valuable time trying to get flaky hotties out without rapport is more of a moral sin to me than this.

I expect a little hate for this and that's fine, but I'm wondering if anyone else has done this or currently does this and has seen results.

You'll get "rapport" quickly by being with and banging 9's. They talk.

 

[Who Dares Win]

You'll get "rapport" quickly by being with and banging 9's. They talk.

As much as you get connection while being part of an exclusive gentlemen circle, the point is getting in...

 

[Konada]

As much as you get connection while being part of an exclusive gentlemen circle, the point is getting in...

Then you should be asking yourself if you are as charming as you are in person why are you not in this exclusive gentlemen circle.

My opinion is you're focusing your efforts in the wrong places.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

As much as you get connection while being part of an exclusive gentlemen circle, the point is getting in...

Let them choose you. Females do that anyway.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Do it, women aren't moral and would/already do the same thing. You have essentially nothing to lose by doing this.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

OP says he's in a small town, but has the opportunity to bang 9s? In my experience, the number of 9s in a small town was very, very low. Not the impossible unicorn mind you, but we're talking maybe 1 out of every 1000 in places I've lived. I realize every guy rates women differently, and to the OP, they may in fact be 9s. I suppose what I'm trying to say is don't let yourself get too preoccupied with the notion of having 9s hang all over you every day of the year if that's your goal.

Let them choose you. Females do that anyway.

I like this one best. Your original plan of trying to 'trade up' can work, but I personally think it would be too much work. And it's also true what he says that women do choose men to a certain extent. It could get interesting though having women openly fight over you. This could lead to more interesting possibilities of "well if you both want me, you gotta do what I want", meaning threesome action.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

I see the logic, but don't really see the point. Spinning plates should achieve the same thing.

Plus women do have a certain weird loyalty in some cases. In a small town, this might not help you at all. Once you've burned a few of these plastic 'relationships', you'll have a reputation, and not the one you want. Do you want a rep as a Lothario, a lover of all women who is confident to approach everyone, or a weird sleaze who settles for relationships with sub-par women?

Pre-selection from sub-par women doesn't always work either. A 9 who sees you out dating a 6 will automatically be less attracted to you because you date below her own level. I notice when I'm out with a hot woman, other hot women check me out who wouldn't normally.

It's not the fact you're in a relationship that attracts women to you when you are, it's the relaxed vibe that you give off, because you're not thirsty. As I say, spinning should achieve this same thing.

With respect, I think you're looking for excuses not to approach exactly what you want directly. If you wanna date 9's, go after them. Why waste time and resources on something you don't really want.

 

[Slash Dolo]

OP says he's in a small town, but has the opportunity to bang 9s? In my experience, the number of 9s in a small town was very, very low. Not the impossible unicorn mind you, but we're talking maybe 1 out of every 1000 in places I've lived. I realize every guy rates women differently, and to the OP, they may in fact be 9s. I suppose what I'm trying to say is don't let yourself get too preoccupied with the notion of having 9s hang all over you every day of the year if that's your goal.




I like this one best. Your original plan of trying to 'trade up' can work, but I personally think it would be too much work. And it's also true what he says that women do choose men to a certain extent. It could get interesting though having women openly fight over you. This could lead to more interesting possibilities of "well if you both want me, you gotta do what I want", meaning threesome action.

No, you're right. I've only banged two 9s ever from here. One I dated for two years. Haven't been in a relationship since because I'm always striving for better. The others I've seen are in the larger adjacent towns but are outside of my circle.

I see the logic, but don't really see the point. Spinning plates should achieve the same thing.
Plus women do have a certain weird loyalty in some cases. In a small town, this might not help you at all. Once you've burned a few of these plastic 'relationships', you'll have a reputation, and not the one you want. Do you want a rep as a Lothario, a lover of all women who is confident to approach everyone, or a weird sleaze who settles for relationships with sub-par women?

Pre-selection from sub-par women doesn't always work either. A 9 who sees you out dating a 6 will automatically be less attracted to you because you date below her own level. I notice when I'm out with a hot woman, other hot women check me out who wouldn't normally.

It's not the fact you're in a relationship that attracts women to you when you are, it's the relaxed vibe that you give off, because you're not thirsty. As I say, spinning should achieve this same thing.

With respect, I think you're looking for excuses not to approach exactly what you want directly. If you wanna date 9's, go after them. Why waste time and resources on something you don't really want.

The problem with spinning plates is that it really isn't talked about. Women don't really share that sort of thing at least around here, especially if I'm banging a girl a town or two over and if I go around bragging I sound like a lying desperate ass. It's just so hard to get anything going with an 8+ girl that you have to meet through a dating site or Facebook. It's WAY more work to get those stuck up snobs out somewhere, trust me.

And I can see your point about the mediocre looking girl thing, but the girl who is interested in a relationship is a plate who is an 8 on looks but has the personality of a wet cloth. It's terrible, but I'm talking to a 9 a few towns over, and the hotter they are, the flakier they are. This is again terrible, but I find the sleazier I am the more receptive hot women are to me. Go figure. I'd like to expand on that reputation as a complete assh*le. They seem to have this weird fascination with wanting to change bad boys into respectable upstanding boyfriends.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

It's just so hard to get anything going with an 8+ girl that you have to meet through a dating site or Facebook

This is not good enough. I was right about your fear. That's not a criticism, we all go through it. It's meant as constructive observation.

You are not going to stand out online unless you have sublime text game (which isn't really game anyway) and demo a lot of social proof on your profiles. You're just being another online patsy who she can ignore at her will.

Approach high calibre women when you're out in public and you'll stand out a mile from the rest of the crowd. I garuntee you'll have your high end chick within the year. It's proper daunting to start, obviously. But once you start getting successful, you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

 

[Slash Dolo]

While I admit I don't cold approach IRL as much as I should, I'll re-iterate here; there just aren't very many good looking women in my small town. I work from home and I don't have to time to go out but once or twice a week to boot. I look for girls everywhere in public, and outside of a 7 clerk at the grocery store there's not much to look at here that isn't already a plate or in a relationship. So I end up using social media to communicate with girls in towns over.

If I had the free time I'd certainly be up for going out of town more but I just don't.