use some deductive reasoning!!

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Throttle said:
my only problem with rinsing with water is it drains much of the taste away, and the leaner the cut, the less taste there is already. i'd be interested in some math -- how much of the "cheapness" of fattier ground beef gets drained away when you drain off the fat?

i'd like to get guys here to focus on cooking chicken in interesting ways as their basic meat, and adding salmon, beef & pork as they can afford to.
Throttle - in the Idiot's Guide To Growth I'm working on, there's a nice google link with lots of info on reducing fat in ground beef. As for flavour, learn to love your seasonings! I make chili a lot. lol. :)
 

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As I've mentioned before, get Dr Gregory Ellis Book on Diet Secrets. He's a doctor AS well as a long-time lifter. Now over 50, he's in diesel shape. Not bulky, but muscular. Also if you read books such as the Paleolithic diet, you'll see fat IS OK. When early explorers ate deer, it contains much fat which could not be easily removed.

Fat does not lead to GETTING FAT.

Extra calories (energy) = greater far.

Just like TONS of protein doesn't equal more muscle, it should comprise a large % of your diet, and then you ensure a large calorie base to gain mass.

Fats are required by the body...

[1] Either fat OR carbs can be the energy source. The body prefers fat as energy. The body COULD convert extra protein to sugar if it lacked carbs. The presence of FAT actually turns fat burning on. Too much carbs forces the body to burn that and store fat as fat. Rather, if you up the fat, down the carbs respectively, the body will, over time switch to burning fat instead of sugar as energy. THIS is why people crash. OR, they resort to eating carbs every few hours.

See, YOU should be able to subsist on alternating meals of FAT/PROTEIN and PROTEIN/CARB or something near that. Your energy levels SHOULD not fall just because you didn't eat any Carbs in awhile. THAT is an indication of SUGAR-ENERGY dependence. Most don't take it that way, though. It can also be indicative of a lack of water, so drink up. If you're feeding the body regularly it SHOULD be ok with energy WITHOUT needing a sugar injection. YOU should control when you have sugar.

[2] Fats CONTRIBUTE to hormone production. Without fats, men can see decreased levels of testosterone, as well as women. Some women on low fat diets see an INCREASE in weight, a decrease in sex drive, less healthy hair, less full breasts, etc, because fats contribute mightily to hormone production. You can't mimic these components; like amino acids, they're required AND they're unique.

The higher the games the better. 30 grams is difficult to consume, since whatever HAS fat is normally VERY dense. Almonds, oils, beef, meats, fish, even some protein powders will have 5-10 grams per serving. Even PB. To go so low as 30g means to UP the carbs OR the protein, but you're already consuming quite a bit of Protein, and we don't want to up the Carbs. So UP the fats. They'll leave you full feeling, yet not bloated.


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Warboss Alex said:
reducing fat in ground beef. As for flavour, learn to love your seasonings! I make chili a lot. lol. :)
I buy meatloaf, chili and sloppy joe packets. They usually have neglible carbs in them and i alternate between them each time i cook beef so i don't get sick of any flavor. I make like 4-6 lbs of beef at a time.

And the meatloaf i add 5 or 6 eggs to before i bake it.
 

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A-Unit said:
Fats CONTRIBUTE to hormone production. Without fats, men can see decreased levels of testosterone, as well as women.
Ok you got me i'm going to eat more fats if eating not enough fats leads to decreased women
 

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I think I should just go out and kill my food from now on. Not have to worry about the "leanness" of a meat...
 

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Skilla_Staz said:
I think I should just go out and kill my food from now on. Not have to worry about the "leanness" of a meat...
Especially at your weight, I think you're right on there.

Couldn't hurt to keep an eye on your vitals every once in a while via doctor's visit. Tell 'em you're doing some crazy ass workout schedule and worried your heart might explode.
 

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Now I just need to get my spear and some rocks, a loin cloth, and not shave for a couple months. Who's with me?
 

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I'm with Skilla, I think i'll go with the spear, rock, loin cloth and not shave
 

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Skilla_Staz said:
Now I just need to get my spear and some rocks, a loin cloth, and not shave for a couple months. Who's with me?

damn right!

JUNGLEMAN!!! :rockon:
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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Eh, looks like i'm going to have to move south for this one. Winters coming on strong lol.

Anybody know where I can find some big ass animals that won't kill me?

I'm a lightweight/newbie jungleman.
 

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Anybody know where I can find some big ass animals that won't kill me?

I'm a lightweight/newbie jungleman.
been to a bar lately? plenty of big, slow women out there to hunt. can't promise they won't kill you, though. especially if you try to spear 'em in public.
 

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It's dirty down south

You should move down here to rural southern Kentucky, plenty of things to shoot/spear/club and our winters are mild.

Ha ha, northerners, enjoy your months of snow :D
 

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http://images.google.com/images?q=Takeru Kobayashi&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

He's considered the world's best competitive eater.
He use to be 5'7" and weigh around a buck twenty.
He eats huge amounts of the worst foods possible (up to twenty pounds in one sitting).
Look at him now. He's in the 170's.

Lift big, eat HUGE.
wow, he IS huge :| quite impressive for a guy who eats 20 lbs of hot dogs competitively... anyone who doubts the power of eating tons to pack on muscle needs to look at those pics
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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The guy probably spends hours in the gym USING those calories he consumes.


Imagine what happens when he drops a log ???
 

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! THATS what caused the tsunami a few years back!
 

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Skilla_Staz said:
The guy probably spends hours in the gym USING those calories he consumes.


Imagine what happens when he drops a log ???
I saw one documentary on him.
Some chef at a restuarant he was in (in Japan) wanted to see if he really was the world's best.

So the chef would whip up these nasty concoctions to serve him. Stuff like a gigantic bowl of noodles with a rediculous amount of chilli...really weird, gut churning stuff. He kept serving him all sorts of stuff. The chef said he ate around 22lbs of food or something like that.

I think he's also won a competition for eating brains too.
 

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ha yeah I saw that, the chef was taunting him.

I thought that one thing was basically ice with chili powder all over it.
 

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From wikipedia:

Physically Kobayashi has undergone drastic change from his earlier appearances on the competitive eating circuit (weighing in at a mere 110 lb in his beginning competitions and then 144 lb in later events.) This is due in large part to his more recent endeavors in weight training. By training with weights and working out Kobayashi has increased his metabolism, which in turn has helped him to burn more calories. This training is used by Kobayashi to maintain his overall health as well as helping him to elude excess calories from being stored as fat. Kobayashi's official web site gives his height as 5 feet 7 inches and his weight as 165 pounds, but in a June 29, 2006, entry on his blog, he says that his weight grew to over 196 pounds during 2006, still being under 10 percent bodyfat.
 
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