penkitten
Master Don Juan
aint that the freggin truth!joekerr31 said:
US soldier throws puppy from cliff
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Nighthawk said:
Totally. Very easy to understand... and as a matter of fact, most of the fighting going on in this thread is really all about a misunderstanding if you go back and read it. Anyone who would be cruel to an animal needs help. I revere animals... I would never be cruel to one!
There is also a distinct difference between poachers and hunters. I am a hunter. :yes:
j-flex said:
...but it wasn't a movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQr8F0nx4Ro&feature=related -- is that how you roll?!
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
I had dog when I visited Vietnam. It was really stringy but otherwise tasted good.
It really isn't a big deal. Explain to me why this has such magnitude for you?Francisco d'Anconia said:
You lot are just stupidly sentimental. Like I've already said, villages get bombed, countries crippled with economic sanctions, serial killers murder dozens of people and we don't get 12 pages of liberal drivel like we have here. Where is your heart for these people?
No one said it was right. Stealing a plant pot is not a big deal but it still isn't ok to do.
Not a big deal =/= ok to do
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Where is your heart for a guy who believes that it's funny to toss a puppy off a cliff, or do you see him as a kindrid spirit where as you can see yourself doing something similar? Is this why you keep changing the subject and detracting from the topic? Why don't you answer the question, if you had the chance would you toss a puppy off a cliff on a whim?Trinitron said:
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
What's making more and more sense is the reason why you keep deflecting the question.Nighthawk said:
the reason you often get people who can't stand to see animals hurt but don't get too upset over humans being killed is generally the result of their experience with the two species. we accept that within our own species horrible things are going to happen because humans are crazy - but its further upsetting when we see that insanity spread beyond the human realm into the natural world where an animals only crime was crossing paths with a human.Nighthawk said:
additionally though, the reason some people feel so passionately about animals is because animals will 'love' you unconditionally. an animal will bond with you and stick by your side for the rest of your life.
whereas most humans hurt other humans on a regular basis.
so while killing a human is just as wrong as killing an innocent animal (in fact more wrong), its totally understandable the oversentimental attachment people have to animals.
personally i dont understand people who have a callous 'its just an animal' attitude. i strongly suspect they never grew up with a pet. for those who grew up with a pet, you'll find that during their developmental years the pet was often their closest source of unconditional love. while humans (parents, classmates, teachers, etc.) were all prone to being somewhat cruel, their pet always loved them.
but people who went through their developmental years without a pet around just don't understand why these people exist who love animals so much. the primary reason is that it was animals that got them through their developmental years with a sense of unconditional love.
this is yet another lesson about how powerful unconditional love is, and how humans could learn a thing or two from the loyalty pets show their owners.
so when people see a soldier killing a puppy, that puppy represents a source of unconditional love that many experienced in their developmental years via their pets, and it evokes a tremendous sense of rage.
anyway, my view is that animals are awesome and that anyone who would kill a dog or cat for no reason is mentally disturbed big time.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jcnjGFAQJys
(even just watching animals makes me laugh my *ss off).
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Francisco d'Anconia
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Yet people don't see the big deal with someone believing that it's no big deal to do that. That and attempting to justify it by equating it to an actual sport or need for survival is also disturbing.Wolf said:
What are you talking about, animals kill each other all the time!joekerr31 said:
This reminds me of that one episode of "Family Guy", where death goes on a date with that chick who works in the pet store... I wasn't able to find it on youtube or I would have posted it. Very funny. I think the title was "Death Lives" or something like that.
Anyways, I've said pretty much all that needs to be said on the matter... pretty soon I'll just have to start quoting myself from posts I've already made within this same thread without even posting any new materal... Or I'll just assume that you all can't read and move on to something which hasn't been dragged to death like a dead horse behind a pickup truck.
It's an inappropriate way to have fun, I wouldn't endorse it or personally do it.Francisco d'Anconia said:
But it is not wrong to hunt and kill for pleasure, especially the more common and smaller species. I was against the ban on fox hunting in England.
Now explain why this is such a big deal for you? This pales in significance to things that happen everyday all over the world. It is a complete non-issue which you are blowing out of proportion.