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Well, I called the doctor's office, but they never heard of Karen. Dang. I tried other possibilities and came up with nothing. So I decided my only course was to come clean with Lucy about our unfulfilling dating, that I wanted to date other people, including her friend Karen, and in the conversation try to surreptitiously get more info on Karen. I just took Lucy to lunch and did just that.
On the way to the restaurant, I told her the lunch was one of those "we have to talk” lunches. She said, "Talk about what?"
I said "Our relationship.... where it's going, or maybe where it's not going."
I looked over and smiled at her, but she started fidgeting.
I hate doing stuff like this. If it weren't for the fact that I have no other shot at getting her friend's name/number, I'd have simply stopped calling her, like I've done so many times in the past with other women. It's better that way.
At the restaurant, she started asking me what's up, and why the relationship is 'not going'. But I knew that if I said anything, she'd disagree, then she'd try to become the person I described. That's okay for a few weeks/months, but then things always revert back to status quo. In this case, it's her wondering why we need so much sex. Or any sex.
So I downplayed the actual reasons. Another of her friends did just fill me in on the fact that the previous guy she was dating really broke her heart, so I said that I thought she needed more time. I thought that we could remain friends but that we needed to let a little time elapse and that we needed to casually date other people.
She looked right into my eyes and then said, "I want you to give me another chance."
Further discussion after that finally led to me telling her how I had already given her quite a few “chances”. I told her about how I arranged the romantic date on the beach, the candlelight supper at the restaurant then the moonlight walk in the park, all on the same night, and she didn't get a single hint even when I repeatedly put my arms around her and kissed her. At that point I could tell she realized exactly what I was talking about and she looked a little embarrassed.
I then told her how I lingered after the party at her house Friday night, and how I gave her several opportunities to invite me to stay. She said "But I need to be friends first".
I said, "I have lot's of “friends”. Now I want a woman." She said, you mean you want sex. I paused for a long time, looked into her eyes and said, "Yes. I want sex."
She said "but what if you don't like that person?" I said "I've never had sex with a woman I didn't like."
She said "But what if in six months you dump me?"
I said "See, that's what I mean, you're not ready to date. Worrying about someone dumping you is a loser's game. It's like trying to fill a sieve with water. “What if he dumps me tomorrow? Or next month? Or next year? Or five years from now?" I told her that I was married for 5 years when my wife unexpectedly moved out one day while I was at work, so does this mean I must get on a platonic relationship with a woman for MORE than 5 years before trusting her? No."
She said, "You're right. And I must admit I've wanted sex with you, but you're the MAN, you're supposed to make it more obvious."
I said "Lucy, what more do you need? Sunset walk on the beach, candlelight supper, moonlight walk in the park. Then I show up at your house for your party, we dance for a few hours, have drinks, a great time, hug and kiss, and I linger till the only other people there are me, you and your friend Karen. And you send me home let your girlfriend sleep over? Hello.....?????" What do you want, a caveman who’ll grab your hair, club you over the head and drag you back to his cave? Ha. Women don’t know what they want.”
She almost seemed embarrassed at that point.
She said "But I do think you're hot and I want another chance."
I said "No, it won't work, because now, every time you want to kiss me or have sex with me, I'll think it's only because I told you, instead of it coming from YOU. (Of course, any sex at this point is desirable, but I just thought I'd throw that in there to give her a sense that I was decent. Mwahahaha)
I finally told her I wanted to hit on Karen. She didn't react well to that, but I was serious. She said, "No, please, give me another chance. I'm the woman you want, you'll see."
I said, "Nah, can't do it"
Lunch was over by this time and we started walking from the restaurant to the car. Next thing I know, she's all over me. She stopped me in the parking lot, hugged me, and then started kissing me and shoving her tongue down my throat. When we got to the car, before I could put the key in the ignition, she grabbed my hand, put it on one of her tits and began kissing me while I massaged her B(+)cup.
She did it again when we got back to the parking garage downtown put my hand to feel her up while giving me a throat exam with her tongue. Whew.
HOO-ahh, okay...she persuaded me. I'll try this a little longer....(sigh)
Well, I called the doctor's office, but they never heard of Karen. Dang. I tried other possibilities and came up with nothing. So I decided my only course was to come clean with Lucy about our unfulfilling dating, that I wanted to date other people, including her friend Karen, and in the conversation try to surreptitiously get more info on Karen. I just took Lucy to lunch and did just that.
On the way to the restaurant, I told her the lunch was one of those "we have to talk” lunches. She said, "Talk about what?"
I said "Our relationship.... where it's going, or maybe where it's not going."
I looked over and smiled at her, but she started fidgeting.
I hate doing stuff like this. If it weren't for the fact that I have no other shot at getting her friend's name/number, I'd have simply stopped calling her, like I've done so many times in the past with other women. It's better that way.
At the restaurant, she started asking me what's up, and why the relationship is 'not going'. But I knew that if I said anything, she'd disagree, then she'd try to become the person I described. That's okay for a few weeks/months, but then things always revert back to status quo. In this case, it's her wondering why we need so much sex. Or any sex.
So I downplayed the actual reasons. Another of her friends did just fill me in on the fact that the previous guy she was dating really broke her heart, so I said that I thought she needed more time. I thought that we could remain friends but that we needed to let a little time elapse and that we needed to casually date other people.
She looked right into my eyes and then said, "I want you to give me another chance."
Further discussion after that finally led to me telling her how I had already given her quite a few “chances”. I told her about how I arranged the romantic date on the beach, the candlelight supper at the restaurant then the moonlight walk in the park, all on the same night, and she didn't get a single hint even when I repeatedly put my arms around her and kissed her. At that point I could tell she realized exactly what I was talking about and she looked a little embarrassed.
I then told her how I lingered after the party at her house Friday night, and how I gave her several opportunities to invite me to stay. She said "But I need to be friends first".
I said, "I have lot's of “friends”. Now I want a woman." She said, you mean you want sex. I paused for a long time, looked into her eyes and said, "Yes. I want sex."
She said "but what if you don't like that person?" I said "I've never had sex with a woman I didn't like."
She said "But what if in six months you dump me?"
I said "See, that's what I mean, you're not ready to date. Worrying about someone dumping you is a loser's game. It's like trying to fill a sieve with water. “What if he dumps me tomorrow? Or next month? Or next year? Or five years from now?" I told her that I was married for 5 years when my wife unexpectedly moved out one day while I was at work, so does this mean I must get on a platonic relationship with a woman for MORE than 5 years before trusting her? No."
She said, "You're right. And I must admit I've wanted sex with you, but you're the MAN, you're supposed to make it more obvious."
I said "Lucy, what more do you need? Sunset walk on the beach, candlelight supper, moonlight walk in the park. Then I show up at your house for your party, we dance for a few hours, have drinks, a great time, hug and kiss, and I linger till the only other people there are me, you and your friend Karen. And you send me home let your girlfriend sleep over? Hello.....?????" What do you want, a caveman who’ll grab your hair, club you over the head and drag you back to his cave? Ha. Women don’t know what they want.”
She almost seemed embarrassed at that point.
She said "But I do think you're hot and I want another chance."
I said "No, it won't work, because now, every time you want to kiss me or have sex with me, I'll think it's only because I told you, instead of it coming from YOU. (Of course, any sex at this point is desirable, but I just thought I'd throw that in there to give her a sense that I was decent. Mwahahaha)
I finally told her I wanted to hit on Karen. She didn't react well to that, but I was serious. She said, "No, please, give me another chance. I'm the woman you want, you'll see."
I said, "Nah, can't do it"
Lunch was over by this time and we started walking from the restaurant to the car. Next thing I know, she's all over me. She stopped me in the parking lot, hugged me, and then started kissing me and shoving her tongue down my throat. When we got to the car, before I could put the key in the ignition, she grabbed my hand, put it on one of her tits and began kissing me while I massaged her B(+)cup.
She did it again when we got back to the parking garage downtown put my hand to feel her up while giving me a throat exam with her tongue. Whew.
HOO-ahh, okay...she persuaded me. I'll try this a little longer....(sigh)
