Update: On last date

[Pandora]

So i went out with the chick one more time. I am fuming. Im so angry. I feel like a sucker man. So i take this chick out to a movie to give it a last try. Nada. Nothing happens. I try everything. No hold hands no kiss nothing. I try touching her and she says no. Im like wtf! Ok so i drop her off after the date and tell her i hope she has a good life and take care. I mean damn you had to go on multiple dates before you find out you dont like me. I spent around 300$ on all the dates including gas.

This is borderline sociopathic. Ive dated alot of chicks and i have never gotten played before, esp like this. When i politely told her to have a nice life and that im not interested in a female friend she almost chooked up. You can tell that she was really bothered by it. It took her by surprise. I then drove off.

Chivalrism is dead. For the first time in my life i decide to take it slow and give a chick a chance. Nope, it doesnt work in this dating climate. Take is slow means i think you are a sucker. I took it slow because she told me all that jazz about how when you give it up to a guy you like they bolt. So im like ok, if you have been hurt before ima give you a little more time. This is a scam. "Ive been hurt before so im gonna take it slow"= You are a sucker. Im soo pissed man. I dont have alot of cash im not made of money. It showed be viewed as a sacrifice and special when a student takes you out because money is hard to come by. This chick didnt even pretend to pay for sh**.

At what point would she feel bad that she is making a student spend so much money on her? Thats sociopathic. Its crazy. I guess this is what happens when you have guys offering to pay for air plane fights and vacations for you. I could never imagine having a person who i knew could barely afford it take me on mutiple dates and i know that im not interested at all. So mad.

She showed all the signs of interest before this. Always calling. Pet names, saying she missed me..all that sh**. But im like i have never seen a person put up an act like that and not put out.

 

[The Duke]

Pandora- we've all been in those same shoes before. Knowledge always comes with a price whether it be time, money, or sometimes both. Next time you will recognize the signs and bail before you get burnt.

Congrats on telling her you weren't looking for a female friend. Let this broad share her golden t'wat burger with some chump who wants to jump thru her hoops.

 

[visions]

I spent around 300$ on all the dates including gas.

This chick didnt even pretend to pay for sh**.

I could never imagine having a person who i knew could barely afford it take me on mutiple dates and i know that im not interested at all. .

how many dates did you go on? $300 seems too much, and i'd venture to say you partly came off as a sucker for spending too much too soon.

further, the fact she didn't even to pretend to pay, was a bad sign...

lesson learned though. this should make you stronger

 

[the_untold_history]

you spent too much money too soon! lesson learned. you liked this chick a lot and thought spending money on her would impress her. It don't work that way bro.

 

[Pandora]

funny thing is we went to go see the new Beyond the Pines movie. I dont know if you have seen it, but in the movie there is a fake "gangsta" scumbag District attorney police officers son. She is swooning over this guys bad boy bravado saying it was so hot. For some reason this really pissed me off and we got into an argument about it. The last thing you want to hear after a date like this is your date wet her panties over some scumbag on screen while you get nada.

I spent this money over the course of 3 months. This is with her hitting me up everything day or so. She would always be down to hang out and cancel her other plans for me and tell me she missed me. So its not like i didnt get indications. Usually i wouldnt have spent this money if she did act like that. Most chicks wouldnt call you alot you if they werent interested.

The game is extremely stacked against our favor in a guys 20's. I can understand why guys just settle with their average gfs. Unless you are in the position to really spin plates you are gonna get eaten alive out there dealing hot chicks. If your not in the position to go through a large volume of girls ur done.

 

[the_untold_history]

after 3 months of nothing you treat her to a movie? How can you interact with her in a movie? that's what friends do. A better idea would be watching a DVD with her at your place.

You got yourself into the friend zone and you kept paying her way for 3 months. You stayed with this one way too long. You should know within 3 meetings if you can escalate it to physical intimacy. If she doesn't respond to your advances, you disengage.

To be honest, I think you got some oneitis. In the early stages you should be spinning plates. She should not have been your only option. A man in his late 20s is in the best possible place to "game". But you have to learn how to do it. You sir are in your prime gaming years right now.

 

[donking]

the 3 date rule bro... unless she is under 18.

 

[LMFAO]

I spent around 300$ on all the dates including gas.

You ****1ng idiot.

 

[Die Hard]

Learn from it, Pandora. Toughen up, be more of a jerk, treat women like sh!t until they prove worthy of better treatment.

That's the challenge... Treating her good is easy, coz it's in your nature. Treating her like sh!t is difficult, coz it's not in your nature. So in order to be succesful, you have to go against your nature, perhaps even erase and replace that nature entirely. All of us who've been having trouble dealing with women in our lives, must change our core. You cannot fake it to make it, you must truly become a new and different person. Not an easy task, but it's sink or swim, so do what you have to do.

 

[Pandora]

Learn from it, Pandora. Toughen up, be more of a jerk, treat women like sh!t until they prove worthy of better treatment.

That's the challenge... Treating her good is easy, coz it's in your nature. Treating her like sh!t is difficult, coz it's not in your nature. So in order to be succesful, you have to go against your nature, perhaps even erase and replace that nature entirely. All of us who've been having trouble dealing with women in our lives, must change our core. You cannot fake it to make it, you must truly become a new and different person. Not an easy task, but it's sink or swim, so do what you have to do.

You are totally right Diehard. Here is the thing. I recently had to give up the lease on my apt to go finish up grad school. Didnt want to go into debt. So for the next few months or so i have to live at my parents house. If i still had my place i would have definitely escalated before 3 dates and uncovered her true intentions. But when you dont have a spot you gotta rely on dates.

This chick is an extreme representation of sociopathy in chicks. Most chicks arent this manipulative. Most girls if they dont like you, dont even pick up the phone or call you. So yeh when dealing with girls like this you gotta treat them like ****. To fight a monster you have to become a monster. But i think im gonna try to avoid extreme attention *****s for now until i get back to where i used to be.

When you are down and out this type of stuff happens. I guess i should have waited till i got back on my feet before i started dating chicks like this again. Its all good though.

 

[Pandora]

after 3 months of nothing you treat her to a movie? How can you interact with her in a movie? that's what friends do. A better idea would be watching a DVD with her at your place.

You got yourself into the friend zone and you kept paying her way for 3 months. You stayed with this one way too long. You should know within 3 meetings if you can escalate it to physical intimacy. If she doesn't respond to your advances, you disengage.

To be honest, I think you got some oneitis. In the early stages you should be spinning plates. She should not have been your only option. A man in his late 20s is in the best possible place to "game". But you have to learn how to do it. You sir are in your prime gaming years right now.

Yeh thats wut i used to do when i still had my spot. Dont have a spot anymore for the next 4 months until im done with this school stuff.

 

[Big Nuts]

The signs were probably there on the first date....you missed them maybe???

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Pandora,
You are the real Jack the Lad....Well done....Probably the first time it happened to her...she will grow old,she will learn even regret?...In general,unless you are loaded,it never pays to take them out for big eats,until they have earned it...I agree with previous poster,three No Goes and they are out...Question Pandora:how will this influence your future dating strategy?

 

[Bible_Belt]

funny thing is we went to go see the new Beyond the Pines movie. I dont know if you have seen it, but in the movie there is a fake "gangsta" scumbag District attorney police officers son. She is swooning over this guys bad boy bravado saying it was so hot. For some reason this really pissed me off and we got into an argument about it. The last thing you want to hear after a date like this is your date wet her panties over some scumbag on screen while you get nada.

For future reference, buying temperature is transferable. Anything that makes a girl horny can work to your favor, even when it is another guy. It works with other guys in movies and concerts, and it even works in person. That's why salesmen work in teams, and the "let me ask my boss" line is a so cliche.

Obviously this girl was a frustrating experience for you. But if all you get out of it is "I hate women," then you are not learning anything constructive from her that will make it go better for you next time. It's fine to be mad, but be mad at yourself and use that anger to make improvements in your game.