Unpopular Opinion: The Female "Wall" is 18....

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First of all, it's not 25. There are a huge percentage of women who are absolutely busted by 25. 22 or 23 is probably the last year where the majority of women are not only passably attractive but exceptionally attractive. 18 to 20 is when women are at their peak attractiveness.

Every year after 18 or 20, and definitely by 22, a significant percentage of women lose their physical attractiveness.

I don't recommend porn in any way shape or form, but clearly, the highest demand is for 18 to 20 year old "models" and actresses.

Unfortunately, women in this age range are usually strongly discouraged from "serious" dating and marriage and instead brainwashed into a culture either of meaningless hookups or femcel anti-male bashing.

In countries with minimal feminist propaganda such as Russia, Eastern Europe and China, or just about anywhere outside of western and northern europe and their colonies, a 30 year old single woman is considered "old" and women in their late teens or early 20's are considered ideal mates.

There are plenty of hot women in their 20's since this is a larger pool, but the level of physical decline after 20 among western women is astonishing. It's unnatural to desire older women and it's weird how so many men are fighting their own nature and dating and marrying fat, ugly, or well past the wall women.
So if 18 is the wall, op is promoting Netflix cuties?
 

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I can bang women in the 30/35 range if they are in shape but cant really cuddle or have them around once I busted.

Girls in their 20s I dont mind them around when I recover.

Women above their mid 30s unless they have some feature I really like, I tend to be uninterested romantically or physically...its like talking to my friends moms when I was a kid.
Daaaaamn, the roast lol. Friend's mom.
 

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I bet 62 Sharron Stones demands are twice those of what 33 Sharron Stone demanded. And we know how bad the demands of a mid-30’s woman are.
I laughed at this. As someone in my 30s who has interacted with 30 something women, I am well aware of how demanding and how fussy they are. One of the bigger surprises of my 30s has been seeing how most women close to my age are demanding. When I was in my early to mid 20s, I felt many women were demanding but justifiably so since it was their absolute peak.
 

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There is nothing like the flawless skin of a 18 year old with her possible braces around her teeth, non pudgy frame, and innocent smile.
 

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I laughed at this. As someone in my 30s who has interacted with 30 something women, I am well aware of how demanding and how fussy they are. One of the bigger surprises of my 30s has been seeing how most women close to my age are demanding. When I was in my early to mid 20s, I felt many women were demanding but justifiably so since it was their absolute peak.
I didn’t experience demanding women until my 30’s, it’s gotten worse the closer I get to 40. I’m not kidding when I say I had WAY more success with women in my teens and 20’s than I ever have in my 30’s. I’ve been friendzoned more in my 30’s than I ever was in my younger years, I’ve been ghosted more, etc. I don’t know why I suck with women all of a sudden.
 

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I didn’t experience demanding women until my 30’s, it’s gotten worse the closer I get to 40. I’m not kidding when I say I had WAY more success with women in my teens and 20’s than I ever have in my 30’s. I’ve been friendzoned more in my 30’s than I ever was in my younger years, I’ve been ghosted more, etc. I don’t know why I suck with women all of a sudden.
I just wrote up a summary and explanation by age:

 

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I didn’t experience demanding women until my 30’s, it’s gotten worse the closer I get to 40. I’m not kidding when I say I had WAY more success with women in my teens and 20’s than I ever have in my 30’s. I’ve been friendzoned more in my 30’s than I ever was in my younger years, I’ve been ghosted more, etc. I don’t know why I suck with women all of a sudden.
Never accept the friend zone with women when you are physically attracted.

You've been ghosted more lately due to smartphones and swipe apps. 15 years ago, there were online dating websites and they were problematic then, but its nothing compared to swipe apps in the last 5-7 years.
 

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Never accept the friend zone with women when you are physically attracted.

You've been ghosted more lately due to smartphones and swipe apps. 15 years ago, there were online dating websites and they were problematic then, but its nothing compared to swipe apps in the last 5-7 years.
I just find it ironic these women today are trying to run through as many men as possible like it’ll last forever.
 

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I just find it ironic these women today are trying to run through as many men as possible like it’ll last forever.
It shouldn't be ironic. Women run through the paychecks of their husbands like they have unlimited funds everyday.
 

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Let's talk about this "wall" which in the sense that most people say it is on this board, doesn't exist for women. Whatever world they live in, well...

Women got more options than us no matter the age, even past 70. Ever heard of a woman crying cuz she can't get laid or a date? I sure haven't unless Chad or Tyrone turned her down. It's even worse that on "My 600 pound life" every girl got a husband or boyfriend. Every guy is either single or a virgin. Never heard of a female incel either. You all haven't seen one either.

If by "The wall" you mean these women past 30, 40, 50, 60 can't get a committed relationship or marriage with Enrique, Vishnu, and Hiroshi, THAT PART is correct. Chad in the front, Tyrone in the back, Hiroshi sets up the camera while he gets blown at the same time as Enrique and Vishnu. Sadly, most guys aim low for these single mons and get friendzoned or ghosted. They still think Tyrone wants to get married.

Ever wondered why women don't care when you ghost them? It's cuz you weren't alpha in her eyes, nor would you be her beta simp. Women don't lose sleep when a beta drops off. Maybe if it were Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg or some newly drafted NBA player, then yeah...she'll be dreaming about easy street and crying some, but she'll call Chad or some orbiter in her iphone a day later. Now, they MAY get upset about losing a guy that's:

1. An orbiter
2. An attention bank
3. A constant validator
4. An IG BF (who takes all her social media pics)
5. An e-orbiter (pic likers and story commenters go here)
6. A potential onlyfans subscriber
7. A source of free meals and entertainment (Reject buying her and her friends drinks at the bar, see what happens)
8. A gay best friend
9. A castrated chauffeur
10. A bill payer
11. Did I miss any?

Even this list is reaching, I'm sure.

Single moms want beta cucks to raise Tyrone's kids. John's money comes to her, she buys lingerie that Tyrone will rip off her before destroying her vaginal walls. That's where this personality change post 30 comes in. She needs to be saved from that mistake of being gangbanged by Chang, Justin, and Richard (she got Justin's child at 7.5 pounds, Richard's is on the way,) Yep, that's where the betas come in. One beta marries, there's about 5 orbiters, Lord knows how many e-orbiters. Best believe Justin will destroy her booty hole when the beta goes to that meeting of SpaceX engineers. Don't save single moms. Pump and dump.

I'll add this, as Mike32ct says, women hold the sex card, and men hold the relationship card. Women can get sex just by sending a message, quicker than DoorDash. The fine print which less than 1/256 women read says "Chad and Tyrone will smash, but let a better one come along and they dash."
Men's relationship card...aah, most men can't even get in one within 3 weeks of trying. Even this has fine print. It reads "Totally useless unless the woman gave you multiple sex sessions, Totally null and void if a higher value man made better impressions. Holds no alpha value if used first, you'll be her servant or worse."

Sure women's looks may fade over time, but they will always have more options than you. Swipe apps anyone? And all the attention they get from social media (worldwide attention folks) makes their egos so inflated as we know it.

That should cover "the wall".
 

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I just realized that IF the OP is correct, that means the only desirable women are illegal (depending on what state you live in).
 

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Facts.
Bailey brooke at the start of her career. Phenomenal.
Now, 5 years later, IDK...she got a YouTube channel and is not nowhere near what she was.
She admitted...."guys, I was 18 when I started. Now I'm 24. The body changes"

Ehhh....excuses.
Hungarian, Czech women are still head of the class at 30.
Maybe a little cover up for the forehead wrinkles, but still.
Diet and exercise will always win.
 

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I'll add this, as Mike32ct says, women hold the sex card, and men hold the relationship card
Agree, remember this, as it is relevant in what I am about to post.

Never heard of a female incel either. You all haven't seen one either.
A female incel (woman who is unable to get laid) does not exist up until age 50. Beyond age 50, it is more likely to exist, but still rare. If the woman you deal with are under 50, you're not going to see this.

If women hold the sex card and men that are unable to get sex are called incels, then the female requivalent of a male incel is different. Men hold the relationship and women who can't get longer term relationships are insols (involuntary solitude). I learned the insol term from Chateau Heartiste.

Many men likely know at least one insol, particularly if you know women in their 30s and 40s.

While the male incel typically has poor social skills and is a social reject, the female insol has at least adequate social skills. She typically has a few female friends. She has semi regular sex at a minimum. She gets some relationships with men, but they are typically 6 months or less. She doesn't get long term commitment. She has a high notch count and is known as a carousel rider.

Ever wondered why women don't care when you ghost them? It's cuz you weren't alpha in her eyes, nor would you be her beta simp.
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