Tictac said:
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Hey baby boy! Gonna show some sources that show that the recovery is not the slowest since the Great Depression or that the Labor Force Participation Rate is not the lowest since World War II?
You have no sources to refute it boy, that's why we see only your nose blow pretending it's deep thought.
You're a simp lefty knee-jerk.
LOL
Why don't you get job and help with the partcipation rate instead of insulting people here all the time?
First of all, if Bush didn't lead us into a near Great Depression with his failed republican economics, there would be no need for a recovery of this nature.
You guys act like Bush handed Obama a pristine economy and he ruined it with his policies. It was Bush's sh1tty policies that destroyed our economy, and it was up to Obama to fix it with his. Our country is in better shape today, than when Obama came into office the day Bush left.
Second, the U.S. economy under President Obama, is creating the most jobs since 1999, when President Bill Clinton lead with the greatest job creation and recovery in history cleaning up Reagan's and Bush's debt and mess. So, that is saying something, not to mention, the U.S. has recovered faster than any country besides Germany.
Third, if the GOP didn't block Obama's jobs bills, including a bill to stop outsourcing jobs to countries like India and China, the recovery would even be better creating millions of more jobs.
So as usual, you don't know what you're talking about.
Tenacity said:
Embers,
The Labor Participation Rate is horrible, the worse in decades.
Tictac said:
lowest labor participation rates since world War II.
So what? The Labor Participation Rate has nothing to do with a President, and it will continue to be low until the year 2030. This is just an useless right wing talking point trying to discredit the President that you right wingers parrot.
A President has no control over the participation rate, he can not force you to work if you decide not to work. A President has no control if a person leaves the work force to go back to school to get skills for a better job. A President has no control if a person decides to retire. All of those factors determine the numbers in the Labor Participation Rate.
The President's only job is to make jobs available to people who want them and are willing to work.
For years, every economist, politician, media reporter, anybody with half a brain knew that the Labor Participation Rate would be in decline from the years 2011- 2030, due to the largest segment of the population retiring which are the baby boomers. Every economist predicted that the rate would be at the lowest in our history during this time, dropping the normal participation rate. The participation rate was at the highest peak during the years all the boomers were working. Boomers have been retiring since 2011, and have been dropping the participation rate number ever since. For right wingers to use that as a stat to blame Obama is a joke, when no matter who is President, will have lower participation rate numbers until the year 2030.
Here is a look at it in detail.
Labor Force Participation Rate in the United States decreased to 62.70 percent in March of 2015 from 62.80 percent in February of 2015. Labor Force Participation Rate in the United States averaged 63.01 percent from 1950 until 2015, reaching an all time high of 67.30 percent in January of 2000 and a record low of 58.10 percent in December of 1954. Labor Force Participation Rate in the United States is reported by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/labor-force-participation-rate
63.01 percent from 1950 until 2015
62.70 percent in March of 2015
58.10 percent in December of 1954
You can clearly see the average rate was 63.01% and has dropped a little off to 62.70% in March of 2015. The decline in the rate is contributed to the start of the oldest baby boomers retiring which was expected to happen.
For right wingers to make this an issue is a complete joke.
http://www.businessinsider.com/baby-boomers-are-retiring-2014-2
Baby Boomers' Impact on Participation Rate Big, Expected
Retirements account for nearly half of the fall in the participation rate
Aging baby boomers, those Americans born between 1946 and 1964, account for approximately half of the drop in the labor force participation rate since 2007, according to a report released Thursday from the White House Council of Economic Advisers. The remaining decline stems from “cyclical factors” fairly typical of historic economic recessions and more difficult-to-explain “residual factors” from the crisis.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-big-part-of-labor-participation-rate-decline
Baby Boomers Retire
Here's a look at what you need to know about the Baby Boomer generation, the generation of Americans born between 1946, the end of World War II, and 1964. They are the largest generation of Americans born in U.S. history.
Roughly 10,000 Baby Boomers will turn 65 today, and about 10,000 more will cross that threshold every day for the next 19 years.
On January 1, 2011, the oldest Baby Boomers will turn 65. Every day for the next 19 years, about 10,000 more will cross that threshold. By 2030, when all Baby Boomers will have turned 65, fully 18% of the nation’s population will be at least that age, according to Pew Research Center population projections.
Today, just 13% of Americans are ages 65 and older.
The 79 million member Baby Boomer generation accounts for 26% of the total U.S. population. By force of numbers alone, they almost certainly will redefine old age in America, just as they’ve made their mark on teen culture, young adult life and middle age.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2010/12/20/baby-boomers-approach-65-glumly/
What Baby Boomers’ Retirement Means For the U.S. Economy
For decades, the retirement of the baby boom generation has been a looming economic threat. Now, it’s no longer looming — it’s here. Every month, more than a quarter-million Americans turn 65. That’s a trend with profound economic consequences. Simply put, retirees don’t contribute as much to the economy as workers do. They don’t produce anything, at least directly. They don’t spend as much on average. And they’re much more likely to depend on others — the government or their own children, most often — than to support themselves.
The recession may have delayed the inevitable for a time. The financial crisis wiped away billions in retirement savings, forcing many Americans to work longer than planned. But the stock market has since rebounded, and there are signs that more Americans are at last feeling confident enough to leave the workforce. The labor force participation rate for older Americans — the share of those 55 and older who are working or actively looking for work — has fallen over the past year after rising through the recession and early years of the recovery. Roughly 17 percent of baby boomers now report that they are retired, up from 10 percent in 2010.1
Now that the wave has begun, nothing is likely to stop it. The Census Bureau on Tuesday released a pair of reports that show just how dramatic an impact the graying of the population will have in coming decades.
Nearly a quarter of Americans were born between 1946 and 1964, the typical definition of the baby boom generation. That’s more than 75 million people. In their heyday, the boomers were an unprecedented economic force, pushing up rates of homeownership, consumer spending and, most important of all, employment. It’s no coincidence that the U.S. labor force participation rate — the share of the adult population that has a job or is trying to find one — hit a record high in the late 1990s, when the boomers were at the peak of their working lives.
It’s been downhill ever since. The participation rate hit a 36-year low last month, and while there are multiple reasons for the decline, the aging of the baby boom generation is a dominant factor. In 2003, 82 percent of boomers were part of the labor force; a decade later, that number has declined to 66 percent, and it will only continue to fall.
All else equal, fewer workers means less economic growth. One way to measure this is a figure known as the “dependency ratio,” or the number of people outside of working age (under 18 or over 64) per 100 adults between age 18 and 64.2 The higher the ratio, the worse the news: If more of the population is young or old that leaves fewer working-age people to support them and contribute to the economy.
The U.S. dependency ratio has been improving in recent decades, falling from 65 in 1980 to 61 in 2000 to 59 in 2010. But now the trend is set to reverse. By 2020, the Census Bureau estimates, the U.S. dependency ratio will be back to 65; in 2030, it will be 75, the worst since the 1960s and 1970s, when the baby boomers were children.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-baby-boomers-retirement-means-for-the-u-s-economy/