Under What Circumstances Should a Guy Give Up Entirely?

[Epicwinguy]

@needimprovement250 you need some tough love bro. Quit whining like a little b1tch and toughen up. Chill the f0ck out, make some money, and hit the gym.

Hate to say it, but you have a point. The world is an unforgiving ***** and will leave you in the dirt.

 

[Robert28]

@needimprovement250 you need some tough love bro. Quit whining like a little b1tch and toughen up. Chill the f0ck out, make some money, and hit the gym.

Make some money but HIDE it. Do not flaunt it. You’re asking to attract gold diggers and they’re out there by the truckload right now. I swear every girl I meet wants to move in and play house after a couple weeks because the last guy let them and that’s what they’re used to. I ain’t running a bed and breakfast. If we’d been dating for a year then yeah that’s different but a couple of weeks or a month? Fvck outta here. I’ll stay single if I have to, I’m not in need of some whack job in need of a place to stay.

 

[Gamisch]

Why dont you respond to @DonJuanjr ?

That’s true, you wouldn’t have any stories to share if you gave up. I just can’t bring myself to go on OLD or anything else because I don’t want to find someone that I start to like and then have my current life situation ruin all of it. If I got rejected for other reasons than the 3 I’ve been bringing up, then that would be different. But I know that I’m gonna get very depressed and frustrated if I get rejected for the reasons I’ve been mentioning. Just like how you said you were frustrated back in the 00’s.

 

[Gamisch]

I have never once in my life asked a woman out and I've also never asked a woman for her phone number either. Something happened to me in childhood that shattered my confidence and it never recovered and as I reached the start of dating age in my teens, my friends and family members just made fun of me for not dating women instead of trying to find out why I wasn't, which made me feel even worse and then I really didn't try.

I don't know if you (or anyone who has a similar story) are familiar with the concept of the hurt inner child. Look it up. It's time to move on from who you were as a teenager RIGHT NOW. That person only exists in your mind.

You clearly need professional therapy. They won't help you getting women, but they might help you to move on from your teenage life trauma that still haunts you..

The more a man values himself, the more he is willing to take risks and improve. And even the man that lost , or never had any value might one day decide to go all in, to get rich or die trying. Your name is need improvement. That means step by step making things better. What's the first step you are willing to take?

 

[needimprovement250]

Why dont you respond to @DonJuanjr ?

Because me and him have been through that before

 

[needimprovement250]

I don't know if you (or anyone who has a similar story) are familiar with the concept of the hurt inner child. Look it up. It's time to move on from who you were as a teenager RIGHT NOW. That person only exists in your mind.

You clearly need professional therapy. They won't help you getting women, but they might help you to move on from your teenage life trauma that still haunts you..

The more a man values himself, the more he is willing to take risks and improve. And even the man that lost , or never had any value might one day decide to go all in, to get rich or die trying. Your name is need improvement. That means step by step making things better. What's the first step you are willing to take?

Like I said in another thread, I’m willing to work with this coach who is not a PUA and specializes in helping adult aged men who have no dating experience. If I feel that I really do need professional therapy, I would probably use Talkspace and see if it helps since they have licensed therapists on there.

 

[SW15]

@needimprovement250 -- You need to start taking action or live the rest of your life alone and accept a reality of having given up.

You need a top tier physique. If you have big muscles, you will attract women. You need to live for lifting weight and slamming vagina.

 

[needimprovement250]

@needimprovement250 -- You need to start taking action or live the rest of your life alone and accept a reality of having given up.

You need a top tier physique. If you have big muscles, you will attract women. You need to live for lifting weight and slamming vagina.

I think you’re the one I mentioned to awhile back that I have PIED. Maybe I can work on my physique as I’m waiting for the noporn recovery to cure my PIED. I also need to work on my mindset that its too late to take action because my inexperience is gonna get me rejected every time. That’s probably gonna be the more challenging task.

 

[SW15]

I think you’re the one I mentioned to awhile back that I have PIED. Maybe I can work on my physique as I’m waiting for the noporn recovery to cure my PIED. I also need to work on my mindset that its too late to take action because my inexperience is gonna get me rejected every time. That’s probably gonna be the more challenging task.

You need to fix the PIED porn problem first. Then lift weights. No porn, no masturbation ever. I have been doing no porn and no masturbation for years.

 

[corrector]

One of the most loyal girls I've dealt with, that initially started as a gf was a fat and ugly black lady, but I didn't care as I was rather inexperienced at that time and did not care. This was in April 2009 and she was from Haiti. She has been around through the 10s (she would believe I cheated on her when I met that other two women I was talking about, etc... as she was rather clingy).

However, I'm not one to go there again to break a dry spell, but pure inexperience is different from a dry-spell that's "post-love". So, I would endorse @DonJuanjr advice for @needimprovement250. Listen to him.

 

[Gamisch]

Like I said in another thread, I’m willing to work with this coach who is not a PUA and specializes in helping adult aged men who have no dating experience. If I feel that I really do need professional therapy, I would probably use Talkspace and see if it helps since they have licensed therapists on there.

Sound more like a scam artist. But oke, I salute you for being willing( willing) to take this step.

Obviously sosuave is full of people who can coach you. But I geuss people are more willing to make moves when they actually invest. I would like to hear what he has to say, report to us how that's going.

When will you start working with him?

 

[needimprovement250]

Sound more like a scam artist. But oke, I salute you for being willing( willing) to take this step.

Obviously sosuave is full of people who can coach you. But I geuss people are more willing to make moves when they actually invest. I would like to hear what he has to say, report to us how that's going.

When will you start working with him?

I don't think this guy in particular is a scam artist, he's very transparent with all of his credentials and he isn't someone who only works with AFC's like most of the PUA's do. He actually works with women and couples in addition to working with single men. I will probably still continue to use resources here on SS in addition to working with this guy to improve myself. I will report my progress with this coach here to SS, and maybe I'll make a thread to share my progress with him and add updates on how its been working with him. I hope to start working with him soon since for all new people who have never worked with him before, he does a 1 hour session with you for free. So I'm gonna do the free 1 hour session to see if he can help me first before making the decision to invest money to keep working with him.

 

[needimprovement250]

He wants a black pill pity party or he's still expecting to find a woman who'll love him for who he is.... What he should do is go online, test out some openers, try them on 50 women, and see if one bites. She may be uglier or fatter, but he's not in a position to be Mr. Picky. He can then fvck her numerous times and gain confidence in his sexual experience, which will be a massive help towards the next one. But I guess time is better spent on here being negative and "Woe is me"...

I’m not even blackpilled. Who do you think I am, Marshall Mathers the 4th? Now he’s the definition of being blackpilled. You’re also acting like I would only settle for 9’s and 10’s which isn’t true at all. I was just saying that I held the fear of being universally rejected by all women at all different levels of looks because of my inexperience.

 

[member160292]

Make some money but HIDE it. Do not flaunt it. You’re asking to attract gold diggers and they’re out there by the truckload right now. I swear every girl I meet wants to move in and play house after a couple weeks because the last guy let them and that’s what they’re used to. I ain’t running a bed and breakfast. If we’d been dating for a year then yeah that’s different but a couple of weeks or a month? Fvck outta here. I’ll stay single if I have to, I’m not in need of some whack job in need of a place to stay.

Weeding out the gold diggers/sugar babies is half of my dating process. The moment you show them your place, they never want to leave. I even had one plate saying that me NOT offering financial support isn’t really a dealbreaker. LMAO

 

[needimprovement250]

A guy that's willing to tell himself anything to not go through with what I advised....

What you advised is advice as old as time lol, bang some low tier women to gain experience has probably been told to all inexperienced guys at least once.

 

[Robert28]

Weeding out the gold diggers/sugar babies is half of my dating process. The moment you show them your place, they never want to leave. I even had one plate saying that me NOT offering financial support isn’t really a dealbreaker. LMAO

I’m being pegged before they even see my place. I think it’s because I own my own business and when they ask “what do you do?” and I say that they see $$$ signs.I gotta start thinking up a lie about my job. I don’t wear the fanciest clothes or anything, my truck isn’t anything special but it’s a 2021.

 

[Epicwinguy]

And yet, you're not going through with the advice....

I honestly don't understand it. It's basically saying to **** women so ugly that they would sleep with anyone. It's the same benefit as paying an actually hot woman for sex... except the latter is more enjoyable.

 

[ManFromTartarus]

I'm probably older than anyone on this thread and I came here to this forum to help rebuild myself socially, like a phoenix from the ashes. I've done it before, and even now after being robbed of the last 20 years of my life to a bad marriage and even worse custody/coparent battle, I'm still at it trying to improve my game, my life, and myself.

To hear men younger than me packing it in and folding I just shake my head in dismay. Listen to the Master DJs replies cause you don't want to look back some day and realize you threw away some your last best years due to indifference.

 

[Whydomyeyeshurt]

Thing is I don't know what to grind at. There are plenty of uglier men than me with crappier jobs who get women. So I either wait however many years it takes for me to have a good career or I need to be like those men.

Brother, I manage a cafe, have over half my net income going to my ex-wife, and live with roommates. I currently have two plates spinning. I'm also 45. The trick is, love yourself and stop giving a f*ck. Be a rad dude NOW, not after you get the great career or whatever. I just heard today that Bruce Willis has dementia. He is all the money in the world and now he doesn't even know it. Perspective, my man.

 

[Epicwinguy]

I'm probably older than anyone on this thread and I came here to this forum to help rebuild myself socially, like a phoenix from the ashes. I've done it before, and even now after being robbed of the last 20 years of my life to a bad marriage and even worse custody/coparent battle, I'm still at it trying to improve my game, my life, and myself.

To hear men younger than me packing it in and folding I just shake my head in dismay. Listen to the Master DJs replies cause you don't want to look back some day and realize you threw away some your last best years due to indifference.

What are your goals with women and do you think you could achieve them at your age?