Originally posted by PeterNorthisawesome
I could lose about 3% if I really tried one day.
You mean that you're able to lose 3% of bodyfat in ONE DAY?
Originally posted by PeterNorthisawesome
I could lose about 3% if I really tried one day.
I used to work with a amatuer bodybuilder a few years back. The week or two before his show was ridiculous. He must of been so dehydrated because he barely drank any water at all.Originally posted by Warboss Alex
Guys, remember that that's a professional photo with perfect lighting, lots of airbrushing etc. He's a mesomorph with a harmonious (symmetrical) body structure.
And the guy is severely dehydrated, manuva is correct - how else do the pro bodybuilders look so sick? They start dropping water before a show.
The abs are down to a low bodyfat and very little else (lighting etc aside). They are proportional to the rest of his body.
I think everyone should stop trying to compare themselves to impossible ideals (not to mention professionally posed and graphicised models - people who do it for a living) - you're gonna be disappointed. Just lift, eat, sleep, cardio consistently; the good stuff comes.
Ya I was SO sick one day I didn't eat, just drank water went instense swimming. Slept then ate nothing and went intense swimming the next day. Maybe 3% a day is too much but I certanly dropped 1-2% of fat. By the end of the week I probably droppped 3%.Originally posted by Adone
You mean that you're able to lose 3% of bodyfat in ONE DAY?
Originally posted by PeterNorthisawesome
Ya I was SO sick one day I didn't eat, just drank water went instense swimming. Slept then ate nothing and went intense swimming the next day. Maybe 3% a day is too much but I certanly dropped 1-2% of fat. By the end of the week I probably droppped 3%.
PeterNorthisawesome said:So I know doing 100 reps of crunches won't do anything.
grr said:For me the sacrifice I have to make in diet and overall size to reach six pack level isn't worth the price.
-I've never felt healthy with a six pack due to the dehydration needed for a 6'1" frame.
-You do have to be really anal about not combining carbs & fat, and few people have the knowledge, time, and money to reach that goal and not be very malnutritioned. I still do it to some extent, I just save it for cutting or maintenance. Peanut butter with celery is the most REALISTIC food I can think of that could help achieve this goal. Power bars with only protein+fat are an expensive solution.
-Muscle gains can be extremely hard.
-When you do cardio everyday your state of mind is affected. At first it seems nice because you're so much more aware than everybody else. After a while you realize it kind of sucks because a week seems to last FOREVER.
-If you miss a meal, especially since you do the eating 6 times a day, expect mood swings. This happens less for me when I opt for bulkier builds.
-You will be drinking a lot of water. Water, the six packs best friend & worst enemy. You burn more calories with more water and have a faster metabolism, but it also fills up those vessels surrounding the fat cells, making you look even fatter. Keep hydrated, but use cardio or drinking to get dehydrated when you want to. This is why if you're ever out with friends and you guys take your shirts off, its usually after the exercise from a game has gone on for a bit, not at the beginning, or its a couple hours after some drinks.
The most ripped I've ever looked with a six pack is when I was extremely dehydrated from alcohol. Its amazing what a few days of malnutrition can do to your body, and make you realize how much water is visible as "fat".
This explains the whole Ben Afleck phenomenon. The guy looked in excellent shape, but a couple of years ago it was found out he was an alcoholic. Turns out the alcoholism only helped him to look more ripped once you realize how well massive quantities of alcohol dehydrates you. But then what do you do next time when you get challenged to a footrace?
My ex came up this weekend and I wanted to be ripped for her & do a little booty call. So, I was thinking about going through the whole dehydration routine. But, you know what? It wasn't worth the time I would miss at restaraunts with friends, or tennis, or tubing down mountain creeks. This is why most balanced people gravitate to a healthy, less ripped physique, eventually. (But still have the knowledge to suprise you with their pack, periodically, to keep you on your toes!!)
So to re-cap for a six pack you can do several things:
Reduce bodyfat -
Reduce carb + fat meals.
-Advantages: It works, really well.
-Disadvantages: Your eating habits will differentiate you from almost everyone you meet.
Reduce calories.
-Advantages: It works.
-Disadvantages: You have to change your diet to make up for the fewer nutrients and you're bound to lose muscle along with the fat.
Dehydrate yourself -
Drink less water
-Advantages: It works on a temporary basis.
-Disadvantages: You eventually have to hydrate yourself or deal with the mood swings that come from being dehydrated.
Drink more alcohol
-Advantages: It works very well on a temporary basis even with VERY short notice.
-Disadvantages: You eventually have to hydrate yourself, and too much too often and you could become an alcoholic.
Boost your metabolism -
Increase meal variance
-Advantages: It works very well.
-Disadvantages: You might be more susceptile to mood changes if you don't eat a lot each meal and then miss one.
Cardio -
-Advantages: It works very well.
-Disadvantages: Like lowering your calories you'll probably lose a little muscle mass & if you go all out and do it every morning it makes every day seem like a year - which some might consider an advantage but I think it makes you extreme relative to the status quo. I like to be a little laid back, though.
Take stimulants like smoking or coffee -
-Advantages: It works.
-Disadvantages: It works because its killing you. You "stimulate" major organs so they burn more calories. You harm organs like your lungs so your body expends more energy maintaining them.
I'm now trying to show my abs, because I can't lift until next week (I twisted my right shoulder playing football) and because beach is coming within 3 weeks. Unfortunately, I tend to store all of my fat in the stomach area, so I usually need to get down to 8% in order for my abs to show (and even at 8%, I sometimes experience bloating, thus a protruding gut).grr said:Thanks, I'm getting there..
Its related to Insulin. Carbs spike your insulin, and with the fat conveniently there your body goes to work storing fat.
If you reduce carb + fat foods though, you can expect to lose major fat because you're almost NEVER putting more more on. Warboss Alex said it right, that if you're bulkier you shouldn't really ever have to even worry about this because of the sheer energy required to do the lifts and restock the glycogen, but the people who want to stay skinny with a six pack (as they get older) should definately move to this style of diet.
I say limit the carbs to avoid diabetes, its not like your pancreas can take that abuse forever, anyway. I typically only eat carbs when I WANT the insulin spike to wake me up, maybe give me energy before a game of bball, or the after workout metabolism boost. Protein & fiber for placeholders. Fat for energy, and Carbs for SUPER energy. If my job was more active or if I was a dedicated bulker I would definately eat more carbs. As it is I would probably eat LESS carbs if I could get as many nutrients and fiber without them.
Well I read a lot of articles on the internet and magazines and most people do crunches wrong so they only work out upper stomach. If you really want to work your abs and get bigger abs you need to treat it like every other muscle and use heavy resistance = weights. So good exercises for gaining mass for your abs are weighted situps and weighted incline situps cuz it works out your whole stomach.bud_2005 said:So why won't doing crunches help?
grr said:Eat in the morning. Not eating and doing cardio in the morning is the best way to lose weight, sure, but you'll lose almost as much muscle mass as fat. Plus you need those carbs to jumpstart your metabolism for the rest of the day.
If you don't do the carbs in the morning your mainly protein+fat diet for the rest of the day will make a reduced energy level and you won't even want to exercise or even think too hard. You'll probably be moody because of this, too.
I don't consider cheese in the same category as tuna because I gain weight like crazy when I eat/drink anything dairy. I consider dairy a mild form of steroids, almost. I definately react to dairy more than any type of protein, especially in milk form.
But yeah, tuna is like the peanut, almond, peanut butter examples. Its got very few carbs but a lot of protein & fat, which does practically nothing to fat gain as long as you don't exceed your calories. Basically: If you ate more stuff like tuna you should expect to lose weight while maintaining muscle mass.
For the basic, relatively inactive lifestyle:
Carbs + Fat = Gain Fat
Protein + Fat or Carbs = Build or Maintain Muscle (preferrably fat over carbs)
Then as you add more activities to your week like weightlifting, cardio, etc, you increase your carb intake and you can even try to time it for before or after the activity.
So, yes, you can definately eat tuna and cheese. (Tuna > cheese.)
The only reason I don't recommend tuna and instead recommend nuts is because I personally can't think of eating tuna "as is".
haha, I just realized how funny that sounds :X