UK Girls Show now Signs of Interest!

[Squy]

Originally posted by ulsterman
Women are too unfeminine, men too emasculated. Somehow, somewhere, someone contrived to androgenize the genders as a way of replacing the family unit with the nuclear unit. Look at how women are being protrayed: strong, independent, assertive, assured, amazons, warriors - e.g. Lara Croft & all those other fighting computer games & movies like Charlies Angels (in reality Cameron Diaz couldn't fight her way out of a wet paper bag - and she ain't that hot either). Men are portrayed as chumps, sensitive, unable to fight, in need of rescue by a strong woman (e.g. Buffy Vampire Slayer). Heck, even Jennifer Lopez gets to beat a guy to a pulp in a movie (as if!)... Perhaps this is a tangent befitting another thread or section of this forum, but my point is, many of our problems with women are directly related to society's defeminization of women and effeminization of men, and I happen to believe the UK is one of the worst places on earth for this, and that it has affected the dating scene. We need to be MAN enough to be a man in these times.

I feel cordially with you

 

[bob2007]

Originally posted by In Sync
Do it. Just try to move somewhere with a football outside of the top flight (the Premiership). That way the prices for entry won't be too astronomical and you'll not be fighting for tickets by phone and mail.

At the moment, I'm focussing on repairing my bank balance, getting healthier and saving money for a holiday.

The current dating dating situation in this country is a complete joke.

I have dreams of working and playing third division there. How amazing are those players, I still imagine them to be great players.

 

[Ronny_Neumonic II]

Originally posted by silverwex
Well whatever ou guys do DONT COME TO IRELAND! They honestly must be the most stuck up, self centered group of girls in the world. No kidding. I found it easier to chat with girls in the UK. Nigh on impossible over here!

OSCAR and the rest of the irish djs will back me up on that one!

Funny you should say that...Mr Irish "DJ". Clubs in Ireland have to be the easiest place to score ever! I've just turned 18 myself, but I've been with at least a half century of 18-25 y.o. women in the last year from clubs alone.

Outside of clubs however, it is VERY hard. But then again you can't expect all situations to be exactly the same here as in America/Canada where the majority of posters are from. They come from a culture of "dating", where as we come from a culture of son's mothers choosing their wives, and a 25 y.o. man being single being labelled "odd". Most Irish women are very "up for it though", and chances are you're just looking in the wrong places. Americans can go to "malls" etc, where the fvk can we go? One of those shít centres in town? Nah...
This doesn't mean that we wont try though, just means we're going to have to work harder. I'm going to college next year which means I'll have thousands of eligible women all around me every day, which tbh is gonna be dj city when I'm done
Who says you can't get a girls number in work or something like that? Just because they come in with an unapporachable aura, doesn't mean they actually ARE unapproachable, and as far as "stuck up" girls go, I find that this attitude can easily be dropped with maybe a neg hit, or even a lil joke. Believe me if a girl is interested, and you show signs of being confident man who could make a move(but doesn't have to because he can get any woman he wants), she will not act like a stuck up bítch towards you

 

[The_King]

Guys..

Seriously...I used to think the same as youm that In my local club all the chicks were stuck up and look down on you, rather be with some dumb idiot...

But..I have been slowly changing but the thing that has really progressed me is guess what....a holiday abroad to Majorca.

Over that I was approaching all the time for the fun of it, I would come back with my buddy about 3:30am to the hotel, leave him there to go to sleep and go back out, simply to walk the strip of the pubs and clubs etc chatting to women. I had success. I had success in queues for shows. I had success on the beaches. Guys...the simple thing is I realised its now or never, I thought I probably will not see this chick again so I approached ...who cares if I crash and burn. Its all one step closer to success.

I came back to England, and it was my first weekend out last weekend. My success has sky-rocketed, I have no fear, previously I may of thought I will see them again around but why make that excuse why?, why wait for obvious signals in the hope it will protect your confidence and ego? Its a matter of nothing ventured, nothing gained

Check this post out...which describes my last Firday and Saturday night in parts

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32295

Also that weekend, I saw a chick sitting on the edge of the dance floor by herself, I smiled and sat next to her and just said

"What are you doing here on your own?" in a tone of voice of how stupid it is that your on your own.

We briefly chatted, but my buddies went to walk over so I left I just got up and left her and said I will see you later. She looked so shocked. My buddies were like, do you know her? I am like no. They could not understand, why, I did not a make a move on her. I told them , I will probably see her later and if not there are plenty more women in here. I did see her later, she sw me, and that smile of hers was huge...but I was having fun with my buddies and some other women by then so I walked on by. I did go back to find her just to get her number, but I think she had left. Plenty more.

The point I am making is you make the signals happen. Before, I would be checking for signals and your right I did not see many...so make your move...do not use the excuse of no signlas for you not to make a move. She will soon be sending you singals when your talking to her or dancing with her, pick up on those, then you will know where you stand.

 

[In Sync]

So you have a brief chat with a girl sat alone and you think you got somewhere...

I'll be honest. I haven't a clue how people meet people any more.

My parents met at a disco.

Go to a disco these days and you're most likely to be get your head kicked in or be in a room of 45 year olds trying to relive their youth.

Decent clubs (for me) would play indie music and they are notorious for ten guys to every guy. I don't really fancy listening to ****e r&b or hip-hop and watching 100 guys acting wannabe-black in order to be around a few girls.

better off alone.

 

[The_King]

Dude...

The point I am making is that the chat with the chick, was me making my oppurtunity, I saw her there and decided to have a chat. I did not chat for long becuase, I knew that there were going to be more oppurtunties that night, so why should I settle for her so early...I laid the ground work to go back to her at the end if need be, to take her back to my place or something as equally as good.

You are in control of whether you meet women. No one is forcing you to go to these old peoples discos. Go somewhere else, out of town if need be. Just get out of the mindset that there is no place to meet women, look around you next time your out, whether that be in a club, street, petrol station, bank, your job, the list is endless but I can guarantee there will probably be women there.


Its your decision. When I was on holiday, you know the one thing that annoyed me about my friends...

is that we would sit there saying to each other whether we would sleep with a girl who walked past or was sitting somewhere....so I said ok..enough of this...lets go and chat!.

They were like what?, I was like this is pathetic, we sit her saying we would like to fcvk them etc, yet we do nothing about it. So I get up and go and chat, then after about 10 minutes they would come over or the birds would go, are they your friends who keep looking over? Can you see my point, take action, you make your own oppurtunities. If you sit there waiting, they will pass you by. Trust me, I used to be like that.

 

[Jeremymichael]

I agree totaly, UK women are useless. The only chance you have is if you are a bloke who is loud, agressive, vulgar, builder type with tatoo's and a suped up boring car like an escort with spoliers and low profile tyres.

Was in a nice bar last night and I would consider myself quiet good looking, and did not get any looks, but these yobos had the women all over them laughing etc..

Uk women - terrible

 

[Leporello]

What about pubs in Ireland? Are those any good?

 

[MysteryWoman]

Originally posted by Jeremymichael
I agree totaly, UK women are useless. The only chance you have is if you are a bloke who is loud, agressive, vulgar, builder type with tatoo's and a suped up boring car like an escort with spoliers and low profile tyres.






No, if you have model looks you stand a match better chance

 

[Revelry]

Aarrgh! Again!

Oh boy... just as I thought things were looking up on the boards with Fingers' inspirational writings, I stumble across the most whingy whiny post yet.

I'll assume you lot don't live in London, or any large city for that matter (Leeds, Liverpool, Nottingham etc), where there are so many friendly outgoing women, it's unreal.

The women, at the core, respond in exactly the same way as any other Western woman. Slightly less extrovert perhaps... slightly more effort required perhaps. But if I walk down the street, and make eye contact, about 30-50% of the hot girls will hold that contact. And smile.

I just know that as I said that, half of you subconsciously went "It's cos he's good looking."
Well no, it isn't. I'll tell you what it is down to... my attitude, and the display of this attitude through body language. When I'm up for it, positive, happy etc, it shines through in what I do / how I walk and act. And the girls realise it.

The key is YOU. Not them.




Dave111
They do show signs. They just won't stare at you, run their tongues round their mouths and smile inanely.

Look for the body language - the current favourite at the clubs I go to is the 'reverse' procedure (reversing into you). An open invitation to kino her waist, gently turn her around, and have a good time.


In Sync
I cannot say this any less harshly... the problem is NOT them, the problem is you.

Obviously, your messages should be put into context. I'm guessing you're still in school? (since a souped-up Peugeot 106 really doesn't mean sh!t once you're through college!)

1. Why are you waiting for 'buying signals'? YOU ARE THE MAN. So act like it.

2. How do people meet people?... have a look at Fingers' posts. Learn to be social with everyone and anyone. Learn to be interesting and entertaining. Even better, BE interesting and entertaining. Take an interest in what other people do.
I'll give you an example... when I go into stores to buy clothes, I'll often catch the eye of the cutest assistant there, and beckon her over. I'll then have fun for the next 30 mins trying on different clothes, getting her opinion, getting the rest of the shop's opinion, busting on her for liking something that's crap, making her laugh etc. By the end (when I actually buy something), getting the number is a formality.


jeremymichael
Uk women = terrible. UK women = useless.
And someone who thinks souped up Escorts look good (this coming after Peugeot 106s).
Do you lot live in Essex, by any chance?

Seriously though, please try to think outside the boundary... it's the attitude that's killing you here. I know it, I used to be the 'wall-flower' standing on 'death row' in the clubs. How depressing that was. Not talking to anyone... vainly straining to make eye contact with a woman... then letting my eyes drop whenever someone looked at me.

The only chance you have is if you are a bloke who is loud, aggressive, vulgar, builder type with tattoo's

Mmmm. Or in other words, being a jerk. Well, at least you recognise that being a nice guy isn't the way. But neither is being a jerk.
Please have a read of the bible, the archives and fingers' posts in Tips. Then tell me whether this is true.

Being a confident, controlled, alpha male may seem a long way from where you are now. But take it a step at a time, and before you know it, girls will be begging for your attention.





If you still don't 'get it', then please do me a favour, and carry on doing what you're doing. Because it leaves hundreds of brilliant, interesting, funny, friendly, happy girls for me.

Yours, in slight bemusement that this kind of attitude can actually appear on a site like this...

Rev.


PS Bob2007 - don't worry about coming to England. The part about foreigners is definitely true (not so much in London, where's there more foreigners than Brits)... you'll get action like you never believed!!

 

[MysteryWoman]

Reverly, eave Essex girls alone they are not that bad.

 

[MysteryWoman]

sorry I meant leave

 

[Revelry]

Essex gals

Mystery woman,

Dear old Essex gals...
what a reputation they hold!
Legs akimber
Brains AWOL
And souped up Escorts, I'm told.

Nothing against Essex per se. It's the mindset they (wrongfully? - you be the judge!) represent I'm against. And the accent in Sarf-end.

Rev.

 

[In Sync]

Get off your fucking high horse Revelry.

I'll assume you lot don't live in London, or any large city for that matter (Leeds, Liverpool, Nottingham etc), where there are so many friendly outgoing women, it's unreal.

I've lived in big cities and small towns. Small towns are actually friendlier, though the small town I have most experience might skew my opinion of them as it is a university town.

But if I walk down the street, and make eye contact, about 30-50% of the hot girls will hold that contact. And smile.

Bollocks. 90% of girls never even look at people as they walk along, so how do you somehow get them to smile at you withough them even noticing you.

I walk confidently and with my head up. Stop making your inane assumption that we walk eyes glued to the pavement and shoulders slouched.

The key is YOU. Not them.

The key is fine.

Obviously, your messages should be put into context. I'm guessing you're still in school? (since a souped-up Peugeot 106 really doesn't mean sh!t once you're through college!)

It doesn't mean anything to me. But it seems a fair proportion of girls think quality car = quality guy. By the way, you might think quality car = Porsche or Mercedes, judging by your location field.

when I go into stores to buy clothes, I'll often catch the eye of the cutest assistant there, and beckon her over. I'll then have fun for the next 30 mins trying on different clothes, getting her opinion, getting the rest of the shop's opinion, busting on her for liking something that's crap, making her laugh etc. By the end (when I actually buy something), getting the number is a formality.

If you think this a wise spending of 30 minutes time, go for it. But personally I'd like to think the current population of girls between 16 and 21 have a somewhat higher degree of taste than in someone who needs to act like a clown in a shop to get their attention.

Tell me if I'm wrong.

Uk women = terrible. UK women = useless.
And someone who thinks souped up Escorts look good (this coming after Peugeot 106s).
Do you lot live in Essex, by any chance?

I've spent most of my time in northern England, and different parts of Wales, thanks. I haven't a clue what Essex is really like beyond the stereotypes.

Being a confident, controlled, alpha male may seem a long way from where you are now. But take it a step at a time, and before you know it, girls will be begging for your attention.

Condescending piece of shit. Since when so we have to act like a prick trying on different clothing in a store just to track down a female.

Notice, those in this thread are looking for quality females, not shop assistants that give out their number just because someone has decided to spend half an hour trying clothes on.

Besides, in your speak, "alpha males" would know what they want and go get it right? So what were you doing prancing around like a fool in a shop for half an hour for.

And perhaps we all haven't got the money to be messing around in stores all day long and have to purchase something.

If you still don't 'get it', then please do me a favour, and carry on doing what you're doing. Because it leaves hundreds of brilliant, interesting, funny, friendly, happy girls for me.

Let me know when you find one. Really.

Hope I've done the other guys in the UK a service here by responding to this buffoon.

 

[MysteryWoman]

Essex girls are very goodlooking high maintainence women. I go to university there. But the girls are not easy, they are quite selective. They play up on the bimbo image and then shoot guys down. Most of the girls try to copy the atomic kitten look.

As for Essex guys they are quite feminine and passive trying to be like David Beckham all the time.

However Essex people are funny, it is a very sheepish culture.
And no I don't have blonde hair and don't dance around my bag.

 

[Revelry]

In sync,

Get off your ****ing high horse Revelry

Have duly climbed down from the equine giant.

Bollocks. 90% of girls never even look at people as they walk along, so how do you somehow get them to smile at you withough them even noticing you.

By having a positive attitude. I'm convinced this has a lot to do with it. The days I'm down/mad/trying too hard, I don't get any eye contact. Perhaps it's different for you... I'd like to know why though.

The key is fine.

A very wise guy once told me:
"Always act within your own sphere of influence, and don't be unduly worried about what goes on outside it."
That's why I said change yourself.

It doesn't mean anything to me. But it seems a fair proportion of girls think quality car = quality guy. By the way, you might think quality car = Porsche or Mercedes, judging by your location field.

True about girls equating quality car to men they want. But why? Because the car is a subconscious symbol that the man has value to her (like money, fame etc)... he can make her feel the way she needs.

Incidentally, Honda S2000 is my current fav. Great car for serious drivers. Fantastic engine. <end of advert!>

If you think this a wise spending of 30 minutes time, go for it. But personally I'd like to think the current population of girls between 16 and 21 have a somewhat higher degree of taste than in someone who needs to act like a clown in a shop to get their attention.

I'll be sure to spend 19 minutes next time. And wear that pesky red nose!
The point is that I enjoyed myself (I enjoy buying clothes, and having fun with girls - so sue me), she enjoyed herself, and I left her happier than when I met her. So it's all good.

I've spent most of my time in northern England, and different parts of Wales

Cool! I grew up in North Wales... fantastic part of the country. Chester's a great town as well.

Condescending piece of ****. Since when so we have to act like a prick trying on different clothing in a store just to track down a female.

Fair enough... my comment could have come across that way. I'm not there yet, but I do know the direction I'm heading in.

Note that my point wasn't to actually DO what I did... it was just an example of the attitude of having fun, and finding opportunities all around you (not just in clubs/bars). Take it or leave it. No worries. You don't have money... no problem, don't buy anything. You don't enjoy shopping - fine, find something you enjoy, and meet women there.

Alpha males know what they want and go for it. True. But it is meant to be fun along the way.

Hope I've done the other guys in the UK a service here by responding to this buffoon

The intention wasn't to piss you off, InSync. I trust others will look at the message more than the tone of the post. I never could write for sh!t

Rev.

 

[jakethasnake]

Originally posted by In Sync


My parents met at a disco.

That is the sketchiest (dodgy for you Brits) thing I have ever heard in my life. LOL!

 

[jakethasnake]

Btw, when I was visiting London, this girl from the North (Leeds? York? I forget) came onto me aggressively. I think it really depends on the individual, though I definately do notices that British women don't have that All-American, Midwest/Middle America, blond-airhead Sorority friendliness element to them. But I still find British girl much more witty and interesting. A case of grass being greener on the other side, perhaps. *shrugs*

 

[Jeremymichael]

as of today October 2003, I haven't changed my mind on this subject