u need to be depressed inorder to be happy. Just some weird random thought...

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true?

ex, ur getting attention from lots of women, = ur happy
then you notice women give less attentoin (naturally) = becoming depressed?

So, when already aren't getting attention from women, then one day, even if just ONE chick gave you attentoin, u become happy and thats just one chick!

So, what im trying to say is, when THINGS are going well, for you, you have to purposely try and fvck it up in order to feel better?

U get me?

You need to FLUSH OUT all the bad chemicals out of your body by purposely downing yourself, and u r now just left with HAPPY CHEMICALS even if its just a little.

Result = u feel good.

Yeah, i know, it sounds wacko..
 

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Your theory isn't really sound though. This is a point that a couple forum members had to drive through my head.

In your example, you're basing your self-worth and happiness on attention from the opposite sex. The point is to find enough personal fulfillment and happiness without a woman in your life, to the point where when you find a quality one that she's just the icing on top of the cake.

Build a foundation and base of happiness in your own life. Wealth-building, becoming an expert at various subjects, building confidence, working out and eating healthy, having hobbies that release endorphins, having a good social life and a plan for your career and future. Most of all, be busy and active. Good things will come your way when you make yourself 1st priority.
 

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verysuave said:
So, what im trying to say is, when THINGS are going well, for you, you have to purposely try and fvck it up in order to feel better?
Uhh...what? Are you making a statement or asking a question? Self destructive behavior shouldnt exactly be condoned. Uhh...dont give anymore advice if this is the best you can do, thanks pumpkin.
 

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Personally i think thats a negative philosophy. Don't try to mess things up, don't get caught into this reaction like thinking just to get a high of hapiness. Alot of bad paths have been taken in my life but they led me to better ones, doesn't mean im going to start making bad choices just in hope to get to another better one. I had depression for a long time but it led me to a more positive mindset, would i do that depression over again, no. Why?? That's a waste of my time and my life, moments i won't ever get back. Why waste life when you can enjoy it??
 
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verysuave said:
true?

ex, ur getting attention from lots of women, = ur happy
then you notice women give less attentoin (naturally) = becoming depressed?
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bingo. what comes up must come down. take it from someone who has hooked up with 35 girls at 19 and soon to be 36 tonight. same thing most girls say im a 9-11 out of a scale of 10. gay gays ****in stalk me. everything has to even out its science its nature. so a few days after i hook up with a girl i feel miserable waking up in the morning. ITS LIKE...

you do well with hooking up Jorge... but I've never been in a relationship for longer than the one i've been in recently these days not 2 months... or you're good looking Jorge, but that doesn't get work done, not everyone cares. i could go on hopefully you see my point.

being disciplined and being miserable are near the same think think think think
 

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ima str8 up pimp said:
bingo. what comes up must come down. take it from someone who has hooked up with 35 girls at 19 and soon to be 36 tonight. same thing most girls say im a 9-11 out of a scale of 10. gay gays ****in stalk me. everything has to even out its science its nature. so a few days after i hook up with a girl i feel miserable waking up in the morning. ITS LIKE...

you do well with hooking up Jorge... but I've never been in a relationship for longer than the one i've been in recently these days not 2 months... or you're good looking Jorge, but that doesn't get work done, not everyone cares. i could go on hopefully you see my point.

being disciplined and being miserable are near the same think think think think
Can you stop bragging? I mean seriously this is the 3rd time I see you braggin about fvcking women...we get it youved fcked women CONGRATS.

OP: I think the guy is onto something just he worded it weird ......I think to TRULY be happy you have to break down once in your life and start fresh. You have to break down and maybe be reborn .....since you've seen what the worst is nothing should hurt you that bad anymore and then just start to build yourself back up...sorta like going from AFC to DJ most people here got burned by women and they felt like sh1t then they BUILT themselves back up.

I know I felt like sh1t before I found this site, not kill myself depressed just not happy with where I was in life....I broke down , Then I found this site and things have looked up I did break down trying to become a "DJ," But I kept going and feel good about life in general.


I think you just need to be depressed once in your life where you hit rock bottom and work your way back up to you can enjoy life even more...but that's just me.
 

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Wrong. How you feel about yourself is largely based on habitual thoughts you have. Getting sad on purpose to "flush out" those negative thoughts would only reinforce them.
 
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I agree with the logic of this. If you are got temporarily blind, then you are going to appreciate your sight, etc... makes allot of sence. Especially with women -- I remember I posted a while ago a thread that I french kissed a decent attractive Christian girl and it's like I won the lottery. I had some nasty rejections before and you get like you are on drugs when something goes your way, like a natural high that makes you feeling spaced out.

So, yeah, you get a drug-like high and feel like you can just smile in space when you get a nice connection with someone and you are not used to it.
 
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j0n024 said:
Can you stop bragging? I mean seriously this is the 3rd time I see you braggin about fvcking women...we get it youved fcked women CONGRATS.

OP: I think the guy is onto something just he worded it weird ......I think to TRULY be happy you have to break down once in your life and start fresh. You have to break down and maybe be reborn .....since you've seen what the worst is nothing should hurt you that bad anymore and then just start to build yourself back up...sorta like going from AFC to DJ most people here got burned by women and they felt like sh1t then they BUILT themselves back up.

I know I felt like sh1t before I found this site, not kill myself depressed just not happy with where I was in life....I broke down , Then I found this site and things have looked up I did break down trying to become a "DJ," But I kept going and feel good about life in general.


I think you just need to be depressed once in your life where you hit rock bottom and work your way back up to you can enjoy life even more...but that's just me.
I never judge or look at another mans plate of things. There are 1 million other things I could be doing including grown girls. :rolleyes:
 

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Luke Skywalker said:
I agree with the logic of this. If you are got temporarily blind, then you are going to appreciate your sight, etc... makes allot of sence.
You're advocating the equivalent of, breaking your legs so you can appreciate how to walk.

Why can't you appreciate walking in the first place?

Making yourself depressed will induce chemical changes in your brain. Bad changes. Mind over matter. How you think will influence your physical state.



And for the record, you NEED TO FEEL HAPPY, TO BE HAPPY.

Let me repeat that.

NEED TO FEEL HAPPY, TO BE HAPPY


Happiness is a state of mind. It is not logical, it is emotional.


And if your level of happiness is related to the amount of attention you get from women, then you've messed up somewhere. Why are you giving these women so much power over your emotions?

Put these bad emotions in check. You're a man, not a woman. You're supposed to be strong, not get flustered because some chick didn't say hello this morning.
 

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Do you have any more of that weed, man? Sounds like it's pretty good stuff...
 

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What the OP is saying is that in order to see the light, you have to be standing in darkness, otherwise the light becomes common and you take it for granted.
 

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there's an old saying

"the sweet doesn't taste as sweet, without the bitter"

but as for being depressed.. screw that lol.
 

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DarkShade said:
What the OP is saying is that in order to see the light, you have to be standing in darkness, otherwise the light becomes common and you take it for granted.
That's true. But you don't throw yourself into a pit to appreciate it.
 

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No, you don't purposefully screw things up (at least consciously), but you kind of lose that 'natural high' of getting attention when you are lonely and you 'feel' depressed. There are varying levels of depression, from being slightly lonely/bored to suicidal, so let's not dilute the word :)
 

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:rolleyes:
 

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I can't say that I feel like that at all.

I'm happy all the time and if a girl gives me attention I'm even happier.
I've noticed that people become sad for many "external" reasons. If someone says you're ugly, then let them think you're ugly. If someone says you're dumb, then let them think that too. Will you really feel better if you prove to that person that you are smart? Mabye you'll feel happy for a minute or two but when the next person comes and says you're a retard you'll feel bad again.
I just want to tell all of you guys that not caring and not giving a **** about other peoples opinions of you feels so good. I know I'm a great guy and my own opinion about myself is the only one that counts.

I didn't even expect to write a post this long :)
I hope there was atleast something new and motivating for all of you guys out there!

Lots and lots and lots of love to all of you. Remember that you yourself is the most important person in your life.

Peace&<3
P10
 

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verysuave said:
true?

ex, ur getting attention from lots of women, = ur happy
then you notice women give less attentoin (naturally) = becoming depressed?

So, when already aren't getting attention from women, then one day, even if just ONE chick gave you attentoin, u become happy and thats just one chick!

So, what im trying to say is, when THINGS are going well, for you, you have to purposely try and fvck it up in order to feel better?

U get me?

You need to FLUSH OUT all the bad chemicals out of your body by purposely downing yourself, and u r now just left with HAPPY CHEMICALS even if its just a little.

Result = u feel good.

Yeah, i know, it sounds wacko..
There is some truth to what you're saying. I saw a TV programe before where a man constantly tried to get off drugs but couldn't and then he was taken to a place where they made him very ill (vomiting, curlled up and in agony) for a day and it cured him.

Drugs are something people take to make them happy but this isn't real happiness. Real happiness comes from within. Other false things that make you happy are material things. You buy something and feel good and then buy something else to keep you happy.


Perfect10 said:
I can't say that I feel like that at all.

I'm happy all the time and if a girl gives me attention I'm even happier.
I've noticed that people become sad for many "external" reasons. If someone says you're ugly, then let them think you're ugly. If someone says you're dumb, then let them think that too. Will you really feel better if you prove to that person that you are smart? Mabye you'll feel happy for a minute or two but when the next person comes and says you're a retard you'll feel bad again.
I just want to tell all of you guys that not caring and not giving a **** about other peoples opinions of you feels so good. I know I'm a great guy and my own opinion about myself is the only one that counts.

I didn't even expect to write a post this long :)
I hope there was atleast something new and motivating for all of you guys out there!

Lots and lots and lots of love to all of you. Remember that you yourself is the most important person in your life.

Peace&<3
P10
Well said P10!

Be happy and at peace with yourself and you won't need outside things to make you happy.
 

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I don't think depression is the recipricol of happiness. You have to find out what the recipricol is then you have two extremes. The only difference is you don't have to feel a great level of un-happiness to appreciate happiness. It just has to be enough that you able to understand you.
 
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