Typical mistakes

JdelaSilviera

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Mistakes that many guys do:

1) Too high energy level, like as if you were too excited for being with a woman that is higher level than you.

2) Voice tone, many speak in an over enthusiastic tone, high pitch, almost girly voice

3) Approval seeking /not saying what they really mean/changing opinions in order to match hers

4) Smiling too much I see this specially in a gym, if a girl asks to use a certain machine the guy will concede it ,and smile like a clown. There is the approval seeking smile, and the cool smile, the latter will come to you unconsciously, whenever you try to smile you will look fake, and approval seeking.

5) Saying things like "I´m too good looking", the girl knows you are trying to know her opinion about looks, and that shows insecurity, 90% of the guys do this. I have girls that are always saying to me they are Venuses and Godesses, and I just keep my mouth shut.... it drives them crazy not knowing what you think about their looks.

6) Getting angry with minor stuff, like an unanswered phone call or text.

7) Showing Jealousy, yes you can´t control being jealous. You may have some mind tricks like thinking you´re the sh*t and don´t need her but deep down you know you are jealous. Just don´t show it

8) Not being able to say no, even when they are making fools of themselves.

9) Trying to be funny, look just let the jokes come, don´t try to be funny, it´s approval seeking. Also despite what women say, making them laugh is not that important, women are very easy to make laugh and virtually any guy can do that.

10) Negging/being ****y with a total lack of timing. Once again let it be natural as if you were with your friends. If you try to force a neg, your body language won´t correspond what you say, you will be incongruent and awkward.

11) Returning texts and phone calls all the time. There are few things that keep women thinking about you as much as when you ignore them. Use it to your power, just don´t overdo it or it will be very easy to read what you are doing... Specially when are not used to do this.
 

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Great post.

IME, smiling, being funny, being ****y/funny, negging, etc. are all overrated, unless it flows naturally.

I know a guy who is naturally a smiley guy. He's not doing it seek approval and he always has a cute gf.

Likewise, if you're naturally funny or a b@llbuster, it can work.

But TRYING to be these things isn't too effective. Like the OP said, let it come out naturally.

I'm a laid back introverted guy. I tried being funny, b@llbusting, etc. because the community gurus told me to. I entertained a sh@tload of girls, but got pretty much zero results with them. Now I have serious even boring conversations in a bar and pull sometimes. They respect me more because I'm being real. I'm not trying to entertain them.
 

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Good thread.. My buddy does #10 all the time haha.

I would definitely say it's a bad idea to do favors for a girl you're interested in. Every now and then it's fine, but if you do it too much she'll wind up walking all over you and you will give off an emasculated vibe.

If you're not anxious at all, and you're naturally witty with your friends, all of this C+F, negging, smiling will just come naturally.

But like Mike32ct said.. You just gotta be yourself. When it comes down to it, all you really need is confidence and a spine and you're set.
 

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I know some guy who did #10 all the time, almost got in a fight w/ him before. A real D-Bag.

Anyway, was at a party with him and a couple other buddies and he almost immediately got the title "****y" from the girls. Needless to say he ended up w/ a fatty.

But +1 to being yourself. In the sense that you're confident and have spine like Alex said. If you aren't then don't be yourself and work towards being a more confident you. Natural always will win.
 
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JdelaSilviera said:
6) Getting angry with minor stuff, like an unanswered phone call or text.
great post once again. one question. how do you deal with this ^^
do you just let it go and not think about or if it bothers you then do you ask or just ignore her calls and texts the next time and get even ?
 

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dont be afraid to pull the trigger. take risks, and make moves. go in for the kiss, go for the f-close. if you are not escalating physically, you are just having an endless boaring coversation. if she's attracted to you and you dont pull the trigger, she will lose interest and its game over.
 

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sinnerman said:
great post once again. one question. how do you deal with this ^^
do you just let it go and not think about or if it bothers you then do you ask or just ignore her calls and texts the next time and get even ?
I go into prehistoric mode, and my instincts take over. I forget there are phones and technological advances. Sooner or later I end up physically at her house (that's to say I know where she lives already), with a grumpy Dr. House-like look on my face. And then we do the adult thing.
 

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We get angry when they don't return calls or texts because we feel "entitled" but the best way to look at it is that if you have time to get angry then you're not doing enough or aren't busy because you're worrying about what other people are doing.

If you find that you are angry start looking around seeing what you could be doing so that instead of waiting you're doing and more often they will call if you're not waiting.
 
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