Two kinds of women...

[squirrels]

The one thing I've noticed with women is that I keep running into two kinds.

The first kind is the kind with low self-esteem, who are afraid of being alone in life and are always trying to jump right into a relationship to "lock you down".

The second kind is the kind who are afraid of commitment, who are constantly looking for a dream-man who doesn't exist and usually flake out after a date or two for no apparent reason. Even if things are going great, they FIND something wrong.

I can't seem to find the healthy middle-ground...a woman who's happy with who she is and is willing to just take romance and life as they come and see what happens.

 

[penkitten]

i am sure there are just as many men that are either of these two things. doesnt mean there arent any in the middle either.

it is just harder to find people that are comfortable with who they are and taking things one step at a time.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Squirrels,


I'm feeling you on the dilemma of finding a worthy chick who's worthy of ME. So many women out here are SO damaged goods that they either don't go for a GOOD catch, or they don't RECOGNIZE one.

And dude, I've found that there are so many different kinds of women out here that it boggles the mind. I am STILL struggling with this reality. So far, the closest thing I've arrived at for an answer is this:

Try to GET OVER myself and try not to be SO offended by a woman's lack of high interest in me. AND, keep fighting the war to find a QUALITY babe-----PERSERVERANCE. For me, to give up is letting the ENEMY (warped female mindsets) win.

And I WILL NOT allow that.

Below, I've posted two threads I started that also relates to the subject you've just brought up. If you haven't already, check'em out when you get time.


The Value Recognition Factor
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=108236

The 19 Kinds of Women
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=107400




Peace...one day.

 

[Latinoman]

i am sure there are just as many men that are either of these two things. doesnt mean there arent any in the middle either.

it is just harder to find people that are comfortable with who they are and taking things one step at a time.

I'm curious...are you a male or female?

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

The first kind is the kind with low self-esteem, who are afraid of being alone in life and are always trying to jump right into a relationship to "lock you down".

So,..the fat girls, single mommies, and last chancer 'career women' then?

The second kind is the kind who are afraid of commitment, who are constantly looking for a dream-man who doesn't exist and usually flake out after a date or two for no apparent reason. Even if things are going great, they FIND something wrong.

So,..the hot girls, the LJBF girls and the ones you meet in the foam parties on Spring Break in Cancun?

:nervous:

 

[squirrels]

So,..the fat girls, single mommies, and last chancer 'career women' then?



So,..the hot girls, the LJBF girls and the ones you meet in the foam parties on Spring Break in Cancun?

:nervous:

Usually that's about right...although occasionally sometimes the roles will be reversed, and there are girls who don't really fit in either of those brackets but still roll one way or the other.

Are you trying to assert that it's a sign my game still needs development? I won't argue that. Maybe if I'm "good enough" they should ALL want to lock me down. But honestly I don't know if I'm THAT passionate about women...all I really want is one (alright, maybe 2 or 3) GOOD one that I can hang with that doesn't go to either extreme.

I mean, suppose it IS me...then there should be a decent girl at MY level, somewhere in-between the "currently unattainable" and the "currently unshakeable" who I can chill with.

 

[Vulpine]

I personally break women down into two different categories:

Realistic
Unrealistic

It's a small percentage of women that are realistic, and it's usually the "middle grey area" of women. The other two ends of the spectrum are pessimistic (haters, hurt, fat, etc.), or blind optimists (Barbies looking for the tall, dark, handsome doctor).

I think you'll find that however you classify women, you can break it down to these two groups. Everything else stems from whether they have a grasp on truth and live in the real world, or delude themselves or believe in fairy tales.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Yo Vulpine and Squirrels,


In my personal experience, I've found that NO woman stays in any specific category. There are many women that, on paper, most DJs would consider damaged goods (fat girls, single mommies, and last chancer 'career women') who are in reality IN DEMAND for a lot of guys because of their perceived OTHER value (attractivenss, sex, etc.).

And then, there are women that most DJs/PUAs would actually consider very eligible (like the hot girls, the good girls, childless chicks, and the ones you meet in the foam parties on Spring Break in Cancun) who actually don't have any ACTUAL lasting value due to their Attention Wh0re mentalities, warped thinking, or lack of maturity.

But the most unsettling thing of it all is that the levels change. Their interest levels in us or anybody else a lot of times depends on a variety of factors.

Sometimes women have so much self-inflicted crap going on in their lives that it affects what they THINK they want. And sometimes what WE do or not do can affect what they THINK they want. So in other words, the only thing you can count on about a chicks mindset is that it will CHANGE.

Add to that the fact that both they and US are constantly in a state of flux (GROWTH hopefully), then it's easy to see why men and women both have so much trouble REALLY connecting. This has been EXTREMELY hard for me to accept personally, but I think it's the truth.

My own mom made a statement to me recently that I thought was ON POINT.

She said:

"Everybody you meet has an agenda. The trick is finding somebody that has the same agenda as YOU----or AT LEAST finding somebody that has an agenda that is heading in the same direction as yours."



March on.

 

[logicallefty]

I'm curious...are you a male or female?

I was wondering the exact same thing...

 

[squirrels]

I was wondering the exact same thing...

+1 on that.

 

[Vulpine]

Penkitten is a woman.

Anyway, sure, chicks' positions in the "range" do tend to shift... but it's when you meet them that counts.

I've had some bumpy times in my life, and I can say that I've been on both ends of the spectrum myself. But, nowadays I've evolved and hover around the middle gray area. I think this is what people call "grounded" or "level-headed". Realistic.

I really must say, during those times I spent "on the ends of the spectrum", I didn't have much luck with the ladies.

 

[New Jeruz]

Victory, I like what your mom said... is she hot, LOL.

 

[Cableguy]

I always thought there were two types of women.

Spitters and swallowers.