Turning your back on love

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BraddH said:
How can you not depend on something? Whetever you know it or not, anything that you enjoy is part of the other? Now how can you love in this world without the other? Everything is interdependent.
Prove it.
 

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NewJack said:
Thanks, I like you too. I guess we are 'faggots' now? lol.

Yeah, running the deep angle on girls is pretty swish. and.... I'm just gonna leave it at that.
Easy now....lets not get carried away. Lol

I was born to play the "badass". Big, muscled, and stern faced. Think a slightly smaller (and softer) Brock Lesnar. Dropping a little sensitive talk every now and then seals the deal.
 

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noobolgy said:
You should rock your own world. Never depend on some one else to make you happy. That's called being a codependent fag.
I agree. Its really good to work on your strength so you can stand alone. Needing people isn't really loving them anyway.

So I think the basic attitude of what you've said is an awesome one. There is one consideration after the consideration you mentioned, though, as BraddH noted below:

How can you not depend on something? Whetever you know it or not, anything that you enjoy is part of the other? Now how can you love in this world without the other? Everything is interdependent.
What I take that to mean is this: when you are done working on your own strength, and developing a space of your own and an ability to stand on your own two feet, once you are comfortable with that -- its time to party.

Stand alone first. Then get ready to party.

People who are learning about love are making themselves ready for the party.
 

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Ruthless said:
Easy now....lets not get carried away. Lol

I was born to play the "badass". Big, muscled, and stern faced. Think a slightly smaller (and softer) Brock Lesnar. Dropping a little sensitive talk every now and then seals the deal.
Haha. That sounds like a powerful combo!
 

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BraddH said:
How can you not depend on something? Whetever you know it or not, anything that you enjoy is part of the other? Now how can you love in this world without the other? Everything is interdependent.
relationships with other people should only compliment your happiness, the source of your happiness should come from within, not external sources.
 

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noobolgy said:
relationships with other people should only compliment your happiness, the source of your happiness should come from within, not external sources.
Agreed.
 

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Nobody:

First your question: tell me one thing that you enjoy, makes you happy or you feel good having it. Anything..

Anything that comes within you is concerned wih the other. Where is this inner source of happiness coming? In the deepest, it comes from feeling that you are enough unto yourself, you are happy with what you are, you accept yourself, your realistic dreams, desires. But will you feel enough unto yourself if there was no people? Think about it this way: if you lived in this world alone, would there be a need to feel acceptance of yourself? And it is not acceptance of yourself; it is the acceptance of others. Now can you feel accepted if the whole world is against you? I doubt it. How can you accept yourself as you are when the whole world declines you. Wherever you go.. People will ignore you, decline you. Can you accept yourself as you are when you know you can change your attitude and people will take you in? Lets say your dream is to become a doctor. How can you become a doctor if people won't accept you in their universities, school? And what are you aimin to be a doctor for? Just so that you feel the joy of getting people's attention, people's respect. And If you wan to be a doctor just because you love it, love helpin people, love doing medicines for humanity then never decline love; never say that love is only for stupid and ignorant people. And if you have been close with my words then you notice that you love your job, dreams just because the other is concerned in it. You cannot even live in this world alone, how can you be happy alone? How can happiness arise within you when you can't even live alone? The most fundamental rule for human beings is to survive in the world, then love, joy, happiness and all that comes second. But the most fundamental rule of our biology is to survive then reproduce, and the joy within it - and you cannot even survive without the other!
 

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BraddH said:
Everything is interdependent.
Wrong:

It's possible to love yourself so much that no one else matters.
Whenever i set a goal and complete it, I feel like a fvcking champ. When i'm feeling myself, nothing can bring me off my high. and any efforts to do so would be futile. I inspire me

or

Spin everything that happens to you as a compliment.

For example: My dog died today. That sucks, but now i can finally afford that new vaporizer that i've always wanted
 

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XY. said:
Wrong:

It's possible to love yourself so much that no one else matters.
Whenever i set a goal and complete it, I feel like a fvcking champ. When i'm feeling myself, nothing can bring me off my high. and any efforts to do so would be futile. I inspire me

or

Spin everything that happens to you as a compliment.

For example: My dog died today. That sucks, but now i can finally afford that new vaporizer that i've always wanted
Why not buy another dog?
 

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NewJack said:
Think of what you are if your mother dared to see you without eyes of love:
A screaming ball of helpless flesh. A liability. A burden around her neck.
A purposeless sh1t-monster whose every move was a feeble one. A budding disgrace.

Think of what you are if your father never viewed you through eyes of love:
A waste of time. A sinkhole for his efforts. An expenditure.
A boy-man who would never stand equal to himself.
A vehicle for passing on one's genes to future generations. A parent's love for his child cannot be compared to any other type of love. It is biologically programmed into us as an evolutionary adaptation.

NewJack said:
Think of what the populace becomes when politicians dont view them through the eyes of love:
Cattle. Lives to be sacrificed. Pawns whose purpose is to die for 'expediency'.
Participants in a social 'experiment'.
A tool for securing one's own power. Any time a politician shows any kind of "love" for the populace, it is done for the purposes of getting elected/re-elected. Such is the nature of politics.

NewJack said:
Think of what loveless men have made out of this world:
A cash factory. A corpse factory. A 9-to-5 bore factory.
Think of what men who loved their country did to this world (i.e. Adolph Hitler).

NewJack said:
Think of what it is that has hurt you most, that has made you want to turn
your back on love:
Someone refused to see you through the eyes of love.
Seeing someone through the eyes of love when you shouldn't (i.e. AFC infatuation and pedestalizing of women).

More food for thought.
 

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NewJack,

I completely hear you on this issue. I once stood in your shoes. However, I evolved into something else; a different way of thinking. I disagree entirely with what you say. But then again, you and I are two different personalities. Trying to make a stance on here as a love warrior and crusade through DJ alpha mentalities won't be a fruitful endeavor for you.

Here's why:

Take me for example,

I've loved many times. But then I grew into my manhood. As a scientific/evolutionary, assertive, analytical type I came to the conclusion that emotional decision making causes poor decisions. I realized I should control my emotions as a man. Now, I give them out extremely sparingly - only a few close friends and family, and at a moderate level even then. I chose to not use emotions as a guide through my life, but rather use my logic to guide me. As so, I came to realize this thing we call "love" is a combination of friendship/trust and sexual desire. And that's how I see it. Formulaic. I'm an evolved animal we call a human being. As such I need to feed my sexual appetite with female aid. I will do so until I deem a woman worthy of my friendship and one whom I lust for.

^^ this is the mentality you will find in DJs here. It is not a "sad" or limiting view. It is a view I embrace; many of us embrace. Ever since I evolved from a timid boy, unsure of what a man is, used to societal rules, and under the impression one sex was more important than the other (women being the important), I have been happier. It literally feels like I took the red pill from the matrix. I have complete control of my life and I am the man.

Not to say your view is wrong. If there were only men of my calibur in the world, I'm not sure it would function well. It takes all types for our world to run and advance.
 
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