Turd Polishers. A turd is still a turd.

[Leisuresuitlegend]

There seems to be a deluded belief that if you are "alpha" enough, high value enough that some damaged person whom has a history of toxic behavior, mental issues, and a screwed up life etc. automatically morphs into a "unicorn" or the best person they can be simply because you are "alpha and high value" enough.

This is simply a delusional weak belief for those that think a hoe/nutcase/ toxic person automatically becomes "suzie home maker, loyal virgin angel" depending on who they wind up with the wave of a magic wand.

Hate to break it to you but a turd is still a turd. You can't polish a turd. You can't turn a hoe into a loyal loving housewife angel. And you can't "alpha high value" away mental illness and toxic personality no matter how much you try to justify chasing, pedestalizing and making excuses for low quality chicks.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

to add to this is the advice of "adding value" in her eyes as if some toxic person isn't going to use you for it like a locust while moving on to greener pastures.

You never lose by "losing" a toxic individual in your life. You gain from it if you can learn and grow from the experience in a positive direction forward.

stop trying to polish turds.

 

[wifehunter]

Why would someone polish a turd?

 

[bigneil]

OP started a new account because s/he wasn't done whining yet, and her other accounts had been lambasted here.

Hate to break it to OP, be s/he really f*cking needs to get laid.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

OP started a new account because s/he wasn't done whining yet, and her other accounts had been lambasted here.

Hate to break it to OP, be s/he really f*cking needs to get laid.

You also forgot to mention I'm a black woman on welfare.

 

[bigneil]

You also forgot to mention I'm a black woman on welfare.

Jaylan? EyeBRollin? ListenToOlly?

One way or another, you admit you failed and came sneaking back under an alias so we won't know who your sorry as-s is (until you blab a few more times).

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

We've all heard this time and time again; once a hoe, always a hoe. But why? WHY can't we change them? That's what I want to know.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Jaylan? EyeBRollin? ListenToOlly?

I'm almost certain it's Tenacity.

Same writing style.

Same complaints.

Same use of metaphors.

Same level of anger.

Same tendency to see things in black/white.

Same inability to own up for his own involvement in any of his failures.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

We've all heard this time and time again; once a hoe, always a hoe. But why? WHY can't we change them? That's what I want to know.

You can't change them but they can decide to change.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

I'm almost certain it's Tenacity.

Same writing style.

Same complaints.

Same use of metaphors.

Same level of anger.

Same tendency to see things in black/white.

Same inability to own up for his own involvement in any of his failures.

I'm not Tenacity, Jaylan, eyebrollin, or listentolly. I've posted here a while back. Ask @guru1000 who I am. He's been a longtime fanboy of mine.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

But why? WHY can't we change them? That's what I want to know.

In sales, there are two schools of thought, or two completely endpoints on the same spectrum.

One on end, you use all kinds of persuasion tactics to CONVERT shoppers into buyers.

On the other end, you use all your energy to sort through all the shoppers to find the most likely buyers.

I tend to fall on the second paradigm, and believe that sorting (when it comes to women) is much more valuable.

In that regards, the ONLY thing that really matters is how to identify and disqualify low quality women with a minimum of time, effort, and money.

Worrying about why the way they are the way they are, is pointless.

HOWEVER, I also believe that each woman has a kind range of behavior/personality depending on who's she's with.

Any woman, for example, will behave much differently around a smelly homeless guy who routinely sh*ts his pants than an attractive, well spoken guy in a suit.

One common tendency for low quality men is "misinterpret" what they are finding.

For example, the homeless guy in the above example will think that ALL PEOPLE are evil, since they all treat him like dirt.

On the other hand, people of high quality will tend to find a lot more people that treat him differently.

Further confusing the issue is many men think they have an objective view of themselves as high quality, but fail to realize that women's view of them is often different from their own.

And as any economist will tell you, the value that is important is not the value ascribed to any product by the manufacturer, it is the potentail buyer who gets to decide if the product is valuable or not.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

In sales, there are two schools of thought, or two completely endpoints on the same spectrum.

One on end, you use all kinds of persuasion tactics to CONVERT shoppers into buyers.

On the other end, you use all your energy to sort through all the shoppers to find the most likely buyers.

I tend to fall on the second paradigm, and believe that sorting (when it comes to women) is much more valuable.

In that regards, the ONLY thing that really matters is how to identify and disqualify low quality women with a minimum of time, effort, and money.

Worrying about why the way they are the way they are, is pointless.

HOWEVER, I also believe that each woman has a kind range of behavior/personality depending on who's she's with.

Any woman, for example, will behave much differently around a smelly homeless guy who routinely sh*ts his pants than an attractive, well spoken guy in a suit.

One common tendency for low quality men is "misinterpret" what they are finding.

For example, the homeless guy in the above example will think that ALL PEOPLE are evil, since they all treat him like dirt.

On the other hand, people of high quality will tend to find a lot more people that treat him differently.

Further confusing the issue is many men think they have an objective view of themselves as high quality, but fail to realize that women's view of them is often different from their own.

And as any economist will tell you, the value that is important is not the value ascribed to any product by the manufacturer, it is the potentail buyer who gets to decide if the product is valuable or not.

Well I care about the why at this point in time, not the what or the how.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

You can't change them but they can decide to change.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. I see what you're saying.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Well I care about the why at this point in time, not the what or the how.

All turds are turds for their own reasons, they don't likely know themselves. But the two things that comprise an adults personality (based on 50 years of research) is 50% Genetics, and 50% non-family peer group.

So it's either cause they got turd genes or they hung out with turd people growing up, or a combination of both.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. I see what you're saying.

The change takes at least three years in.my opinion. They have to want to change.

 

[El Payaso]

In sales, there are two schools of thought, or two completely endpoints on the same spectrum.

One on end, you use all kinds of persuasion tactics to CONVERT shoppers into buyers.

On the other end, you use all your energy to sort through all the shoppers to find the most likely buyers.

I tend to fall on the second paradigm, and believe that sorting (when it comes to women) is much more valuable.

In that regards, the ONLY thing that really matters is how to identify and disqualify low quality women with a minimum of time, effort, and money.

Worrying about why the way they are the way they are, is pointless.

HOWEVER, I also believe that each woman has a kind range of behavior/personality depending on who's she's with.

Any woman, for example, will behave much differently around a smelly homeless guy who routinely sh*ts his pants than an attractive, well spoken guy in a suit.

One common tendency for low quality men is "misinterpret" what they are finding.

For example, the homeless guy in the above example will think that ALL PEOPLE are evil, since they all treat him like dirt.

On the other hand, people of high quality will tend to find a lot more people that treat him differently.

Further confusing the issue is many men think they have an objective view of themselves as high quality, but fail to realize that women's view of them is often different from their own.

And as any economist will tell you, the value that is important is not the value ascribed to any product by the manufacturer, it is the potentail buyer who gets to decide if the product is valuable or not.

Very well said.

 

[Leisuresuitlegend]

Thinking that some toxic user, abuser, entitled, troubled mentally ill etc. person is going to somehow “change” for the better with a more “high value alpha” is foolish at best. All that toxic person is going to do is keep it under wraps the best they can till they either branch swing to the next or destroy that “high value alpha” that chooses to invest anything in them especially trying to “control or tame” them by walking on alpha eggshells. One wrong move and an "alpha" you ain't.


We see it happening all the time with the famous, good looking, rich, athletes etc. The “top” in society. They get involved with toxic women and it’s all over the place. IE: Black Chyna, Kardashians, groupies looking for payouts, etc.


To become a top 1% man isn’t to waste your time trying to transform garbage people into “gold” as if they’ll forever be indebted to you. Real life isn’t a “Pretty Woman” movie. Besides why the hell would you want a person like that in your life? “The past is the past?” “Just get over it and deal with it or you aren’t a real man?” No thanks. I’ll pass. Better to be single and have scarcity of drama and "reformed" whack jobs in your life.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

The change takes at least three years in.my opinion. They have to want to change.

I find this to be true as well