Trying to knock-out someone taller

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What's the best way to punch someone who is a lot taller than you?

I found this youtube clip of a boxer knocking out an MMA fighter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUx9OE7DZAo



I just can't tell if he threw a straight right or an overhand right. WHen I practice throwing a straight right (also called a right cross) it seems like it would lose a lot of volicity when throwing it upwards at someone taller.
 

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My favorite amateur mma fighter that I ever helped to train was 5' 2". We taught him one thing, which was to close the distance and get his forehead up against the other guy's chin before he started punching. He chased his opponents around the cage like a pit bull and was always a crowd favorite.

People think that being taller is an advantage - that is only true at a distance. I can tell you from being 6' 2" that long arms get in the way at very close range. At the same time, when I spar with a 6'10" training partner of mine, I crouch down and try to fight like the 5' 2" fighter - close the distance, and then reach up and hit him in the stomach. :D

Judo champions are typically built like trash cans. fwiw, it's the same if you ever fight on uneven ground. Being on the uphill side makes you like a fighter with reach, and being on the downhill side makes it extra easy to land judo throws. Samurais adapted their fighting style to the terrain and environment. A judo throw does not seem that deadly, but it's different when you're fighting on the edge of a cliff.

To answer your question, you have to close the distance and punch from close range. Weight transfer is what makes a punch powerful, not the flailing of a long arm. When you throw good inside punches, your elbows should always be close to your body. Get on your toes and balls of your feet like a sprinter, then push off the ground as you punch to transfer weight. After all of that, if you want to double your power, time your punch so that your opponent is moving into it.
 

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Slip up behind him while he's sitting down, and render him unconscious with a blackjack or crow bar. Hit him several times to be sure, even after he's down.

Real life fighting isn't some kind of fairy tale about honor. It's dirty and it's over in a few seconds. But you knew that since you want him unconscious (so you can pull down his pants, take dirty pictures, etc. ???).
 

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Lol why does it seem short people all have some sort of napolian complex.
 

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kick to legs/nuts, kidney, and you won't have to use your hands at all. After he's down, depending upon his positioning, use ball of foot to kick nuts, tailbone, kidney, floating ribs, base of skull, top of head, between shoulder blades, until he's neutralized. Then stomp on larnyx or kick behind the ear to see to it that he never attacks anyone, ever again.
 

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Unless you are 220+ lbs and heavy like those guys in the videos, I wouldn't recommend trading overhand blows and straights.

Do what Bible_Belt said. Close the distance, take away his reach advantage, and then deal out ravaging hooks to the body, or to the chin.

Look at Tyson's fights as an example. The guy was only like 5.10, yet destroyed everyone with his hooks, no matter how much taller his opposition was.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
A judo throw does not seem that deadly, but it's different when you're fighting on the edge of a cliff.
But how often did that actually happen?
 

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Maybe being thrown off a cliff was rare, but there are always a lot of bad places to get thrown, like onto sharp rocks or at the feet of someone who would stomp on their head.

It's the same idea with wrestler takedowns and slams. They're almost meaningless in an mma match, but on pavement or rocks, the same move could easily be lethal. Wrestling, like judo, compliments a low center of gravity, which means that shorter people tend to be better at it than taller people.
 

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Well, if its a street fight, pretty much anything goes. While you are wondering what punch to throw, he may kick you in the nuts and drop you like a rock.

Though, I believe a straight right to the chin works wonders. (lean into it and follow through)
 

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Stay out of reach, side kick at legs. Any solid contact will break his knee, if his leg is locked out straight, like it nearly always is with untrained fighters. Then proceed to kick top of head, nuts, tailbone, jaw, kidneys, base of skull, between shoulder blade, behind the ear, floating ribs, depending upon his positioning relative to you and your desire to cause him further problems.
 

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hairpoter thanks for that link.. I think the overhand right is the best punch to use against a taller oponent. A straight right aka right cross will lose leverage because it has to travel upwards

Bible_Belt said:
My favorite amateur mma fighter that I ever helped to train was 5' 2". We taught him one thing, which was to close the distance and get his forehead up against the other guy's chin before he started punching. He chased his opponents around the cage like a pit bull and was always a crowd favorite.

People think that being taller is an advantage - that is only true at a distance. I can tell you from being 6' 2" that long arms get in the way at very close range. At the same time, when I spar with a 6'10" training partner of mine, I crouch down and try to fight like the 5' 2" fighter - close the distance, and then reach up and hit him in the stomach. :D

Judo champions are typically built like trash cans. fwiw, it's the same if you ever fight on uneven ground. Being on the uphill side makes you like a fighter with reach, and being on the downhill side makes it extra easy to land judo throws. Samurais adapted their fighting style to the terrain and environment. A judo throw does not seem that deadly, but it's different when you're fighting on the edge of a cliff.

To answer your question, you have to close the distance and punch from close range. Weight transfer is what makes a punch powerful, not the flailing of a long arm. When you throw good inside punches, your elbows should always be close to your body. Get on your toes and balls of your feet like a sprinter, then push off the ground as you punch to transfer weight. After all of that, if you want to double your power, time your punch so that your opponent is moving into it.
I definitely agree with this assesment. Mike Tyson was the quintessential example of this being about 5'10 and consistently knocking guys out over 6 feet.

However a tall skilled fighter will be hell if they have a good jab and can keep their opponents at bay. Vladimir Klitchko (current boxing heavyweight champ) and greats like Muhammad Ali display this.
 

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so hit him in the nuts. NOBODY is that tall, you know? :) Become a trained kicker, and use the advantage of the many inches more "reach", and the surprise that kicking gives you. VERY few people are good kickers, and even fewer of them are expert blockers of kicks. For even safer kicking, especially if you have long legs, is to kick at the knee. You have to get a hair closer than the balls-kick "standoff" range, but any solid hit to the leg, within several inches of the knee, will ruin his mobility, if he's standing with legs straight, as nearly everyone does.
 

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That was an overhand right. It is probably the most effective punch to knock out a tall guy in one punch (watch Roy Nelson use it). You can also (if the other fight is orthadox), slide to the right and throw a straight right. It's very effective, you can see Nonito Donaire use it a lot.

Ray Mercer was a beast in his day, but unfortunately, his been a brain dead, washed up figher like James Toney for decades now.

Speed and footwork also negates a taller fighters reach, this is how guys like Manny Pacquiao get by destroying taller guys without having to sit in the pocket like Tyson did. Angles will mess up anybodies balance and ability to use their reach and smaller guys generally have a lot more coordinated footwork.
 
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