Trying to escape friend zone - LJBF throwing sh*t tests at me. WTF is going on?

[PlayaBoy]

This is a very attractive girl who I met a year ago during holidays and was a friends girlfriend. When they broke up (he dumped her and she freaked out), I bumped into her in a club and got her phone number. We have friends in common and I was always hearing how much she still liked him, etc.

After I got her number I didn’t call for like a month, because I didn’t have much hope it would go my way, but then a friend of mine caught her looking for my phone number in her cell phone, and told me she was always saying “oh why doesn’t PlayaBoy call me!!”, so when I heard this I decided to ask her out (dinner). Very casual, but still a date. She gave some lame excuse, and I acted cool about it.

Later, she invited me to go to her place for dinner, and tried hook me up w/ some ugly girl. I laughed it off and then started teasing her big time and her interest level went up. So we went to the movies. I was kind of a chump (my skills have been getting much better, and mostly due to interacting w/ this chick who is a bigtime player) and got low IOIs, so I took the initiative to LJBF HER and disqualify her.

Things were pretty cold for a while, exchanging some sms and stuff, until I decided I had enough and invited her to dinner to tell her how I just asked her in the first place because I found out about her “desperation” in getting my number, and that the thought of us together had crossed my mind but I didn’t find her hot at all. Then I started to ask questions as why had she looked for my phone number and then gave lame excuses that I knew were lies. She cried. Then it started to get interesting. This girl starts to call me EVERYDAY and just to set the record straight with her I reinforced the friendship frame, always acting like a DJ, and kept with my life and self improvement.

As she is getting to know me her respect for me has increased and sometimes I can really get her fired up (kino, teasing, some emotional connection), and her friends are starting to ask her why aren’t we boyfriends, and whenever she says these things I tell her LJBF, and tease her a lot.

But now something is starting to happen, and I don’t know what to make of it.

Now, when I invite her to dinner or lunch she starts to give me tests, like oh but I HATE that restaurant, I HATE that food, why must we go to THAT disco. And were not even dating!

I have been always able to shrug it off, but yesterday she went all out on me telling me things that weren’t the least bit reasonable. We were going to lunch and I told her the name of the street she was to go to. She picked me up at work, and instead of parking right there where the restaurant was, she started to go around in circles passing by empty parking spaces when I was telling her “hey there’s a spot!!”, and shouting really stupid emotional things, until I lost it and told her to stop the car and take me back to my workplace.

We are just friends, and she is always talking about how it wouldn’t work between us, but she’s acting as if I’m pursuing her and I’m not. She is the one who call most of the time, and I’m always playing hard to get and have been – and still am - pretty detached, as iI'm always meeting new girls, etc., but I'm still interested in her.

I would love to escape the friend zone, and have seen it done like this many times, but I can’t figure these behaviours out.

Any advice?

Later,

PlayaBoy

 

[Jamo]

hmm

My suggestion..

Im also trying to break out of an LJBF zone (that I created - known the girl for a year)...I am being the "best buddy" for a month and then planning to sieze any and all contact with her instantly - giving no reasons, nothing - just disappear - no replies etc for a while, until I get a message that she wants me in no uncertain terms - or until I find a better option that I can stick with. I think you should try that. If you have played the role of a good friend (since you have known her for a while) and she still has not come onto you, then that might just work. I will do the same on the 2nd of January (that is if nothing happens new year's night )

Id say it is a 50/50 chance of working....not super high but it is better than tolerating such ****. You will know how she feels either way. Bottom line.

 

[The Anti Dr Phil]

Bro...You are right at the door, and it's WIDE the eff open, but you are afraid to walk in. Stop thinking so much and just do.

Are you a decent dancer? If so, you better take advantage of that skill, because it'll take you to the promised land in this situation. Take her out for drinks and dancing, and just hang out chatting. And when a song comes on you like, make haste and drag her on the floor. And when your energy levels of you two becomes electromagnetic and you two become one with the rhythm(you'll know it when you get there), make your move, and do it without hesitation. Start with the tip of your nose grazing slightly on the base of her neck/upper collarbone area...then use the same method and graze her neck with your nose then real soft with the you lips...do that a few times and work your way to her ear...not kissing her, but just grazing her with her lips in a subtle fashion. Then, face her and work your way to her lips...same fashion...graze her lips with yours...then make her chase it - tease her with your lips and make her chase the kiss. Then BAM!!! We got magic. Real simple. I've been using that protocol to kiss random women I just met on dance floors all over the world for over a decade. You two don't even have to speak the same language - It's universal.

If she pulls back somewhat, you'll know you're stuck in the LJBF zone. But I really don't think she will, because based on what you've described, it seems as if she's waiting on you to make a power move. And power moves don't equal words (aka, I have feelings for you B.S), they equal action (what I wrote above). Power moves are about feeling the inertia, and riding that energy for as long as it'll take you. You're close, however I think you need to get better at setting up your finishing move.

 

[Jamo]

ok

Try Dr. Phil's method...if she pulls back use mine - that is the best way

 

[Boner da Stoner]

You aren't alpha in her eyes

she doesn't believe that what you do is confident enough for her...

You have been labelled a friend... of a friend, whom she now chills with...

 

[backbreaker]

Here is a post I wrote a while ago:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84433&highlight=LJBF+for+you

 

[PlayaBoy]

these are great sugestions, thanks.

but why do you guys think she has started to act like this?

can she be into me and wanting me to make a move? is she playing me?

why this behaviour all of a sudden?

PB

 

[backbreaker]

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY SHE DID IT.

That's the AFC's problem... you outthink yourself.

You think so much that you take sexuality out of the equation.

If you are attracted to her, let it be known you are attracted to you. If she makes it known that she doesn't feel the same WAY MOVE ON

You don't ever want to spend your time wondering why women do what they do. you are wasting time. Half the time, women don't even know why they do what they do... they aren't rational, they are emotional.

 

[QuezNozet]

Originally posted by backbreaker
You don't ever want to spend your time wondering why women do what they do. you are wasting time. Half the time, women don't even know why they do what they do... they aren't rational, they are emotional. [/B]

i keep telling myself that but sometiems it just helps to read it on a board

thanks bro