Trying dating apps not owned by Match

[needimprovement250]

I noticed that there’s been a lot of talk lately about the monopoly ownership of the dating apps. For those who don’t know, the most popular ones such as Tinder and Hinge are all owned by Match (yes the same match as Match.com) Bumble is not owned by Match, but Bumble’s parent company does own a couple others. Recently, I’ve been hearing more and more about how this dating app monopoly is toxic and they all want their users (especially men) to remain single because they stop making money if they meet someone and delete the app. They really want men to stay on the apps because for the most part, men are the only ones buying the paid subscriptions like Tinder Gold and Hinge X, women don’t need to do that.

This makes me wonder if anyone here has tried the apps not owned by Match or Bumble and what their results were. Are there even any women on those other apps?The bad thing is that these days, not many dating apps aren’t owned by the two of them. Only a handful such as Coffee Meets Bagel or The Right Stuff.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Coffee meets bagel is pretty bad, I tried it for a bit and the userbase is extremely small and I didn't get anywhere on there anyway. I'd imagine it's the same for all non Match Group apps

 

[pipeman84]

The issue is not with the owner or the monopoly, the product itself is not fit for purpose. It's like with ultra processed garbage that passes as food ... it will still make you fat and sick, no matter who owns it or what its name is.
The main issues with the apps are: - the skewed male/female ratio
- the quality of people in general and females in special (because that's what we're interested in) that it attracts
- the whole process of selection/matching is superficial and unnatural, in other words you can't reduce attraction/seduction to a few filtered photos and a line of text.

 

[I_have_BDE]

The apps were bad before covid but they had far better quality and quantity of women than they do now.

Match bought pof tinder, and recently utc aka upward app. When match bought all these sites up they neutered them. Made them have more pay walls and took features away.

Tinder fewer swipes before you gotta pay up. Upward app very few swipes until you gotta pay and it's not cheap!

Even freaking trash pof gives you one message per day now lol.

Facebook dating used to have lots of hotties when it first launched. Now it's just a free version of pof basically. Fatties.

Same with the women post covid most decent ones left old. More paywalls and less features. Money is tight for a lot now.

Also match has gotten sued by using deceptive tactics and fake profiles. Match owned sites have a lot of fake profiles. Lures customers in thinking its full of hotties. Like sending you tons of likes and then you pay and nothing.

 

[needimprovement250]

Coffee meets bagel is pretty bad, I tried it for a bit and the userbase is extremely small and I didn't get anywhere on there anyway. I'd imagine it's the same for all non Match Group apps

I’m not surprised to hear that because you never even hear anything about Coffee Meets Bagel these days. It was probably alright when it first started, but now it isn’t even worth creating an account.

I was just reading your thread in the wealth & success tab on here since I’m drafting a thread to be posted there. Sounds like we’re both in similar situations with our careers where we don’t have that figured out yet. I remember you were also tagged alongside me in a thread giving advice to guys who are at a later age and don’t have much experience with dating women. Good to know there’s someone else on this forum who has similar struggles and trying to overcome them.

 

[needimprovement250]

The issue is not with the owner or the monopoly, the product itself is not fit for purpose. It's like with ultra processed garbage that passes as food ... it will still make you fat and sick, no matter who owns it or what its name is.
The main issues with the apps are: - the skewed male/female ratio
- the quality of people in general and females in special (because that's what we're interested in) that it attracts
- the whole process of selection/matching is superficial and unnatural, in other words you can't reduce attraction/seduction to a few filtered photos and a line of text.

That’s true and these dating apps put out reports that men are lonelier than ever, which is extremely ironic since their apps are a big reason for it due to them upending the dating scene as a whole.

 

[needimprovement250]

The apps were bad before covid but they had far better quality and quantity of women than they do now.

Match bought pof tinder, and recently utc aka upward app. When match bought all these sites up they neutered them. Made them have more pay walls and took features away.

Tinder fewer swipes before you gotta pay up. Upward app very few swipes until you gotta pay and it's not cheap!

Even freaking trash pof gives you one message per day now lol.

Facebook dating used to have lots of hotties when it first launched. Now it's just a free version of pof basically. Fatties.

Same with the women post covid most decent ones left old. More paywalls and less features. Money is tight for a lot now.

Also match has gotten sued by using deceptive tactics and fake profiles. Match owned sites have a lot of fake profiles. Lures customers in thinking its full of hotties. Like sending you tons of likes and then you pay and nothing.

Yeah I heard that Hinge X is like 50 a month! That’s insane and a lot of average tier men who pay for those monthly subscriptions on the apps still struggle just as much as they did before they finally broke down and bought a subscription. I never knew that the Match Group got sued though. They use so many deceptive tactics and want men to remain single and paying for subscriptions that they should not have the monopoly they do over the dating scene. I have heard that a lot of people, not just women are leaving OLD because they’ve gotten fed up with it. I wonder where they’re all meeting people to date though, maybe through social circles.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

I’m not surprised to hear that because you never even hear anything about Coffee Meets Bagel these days. It was probably alright when it first started, but now it isn’t even worth creating an account.

I was just reading your thread in the wealth & success tab on here since I’m drafting a thread to be posted there. Sounds like we’re both in similar situations with our careers where we don’t have that figured out yet. I remember you were also tagged alongside me in a thread giving advice to guys who are at a later age and don’t have much experience with dating women. Good to know there’s someone else on this forum who has similar struggles and trying to overcome them.

Yeah man I think it was that healthygamergg video right?

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Aron Clarey says it best. Get off the apps.

The trouble has always been that I always come crawling back to the apps in the end. Never been able to counteract that

 

[BergischerLöwe]

That’s true and these dating apps put out reports that men are lonelier than ever, which is extremely ironic since their apps are a big reason for it due to them upending the dating scene as a whole.

All that is true, yet if it hadn't been for the apps I would still be a virgin. In my own experience there's been that paradox

 

[RickTheToad]

Coffee meets bagel is pretty bad, I tried it for a bit and the userbase is extremely small and I didn't get anywhere on there anyway. I'd imagine it's the same for all non Match Group apps

Have you tried penis meets vagina?

 

[RickTheToad]

In all seriousness, I had success with JSwipe (not Jewish), Bumble and OKStupid. This was a few years ago though..

 

[SW15]

Aron Clarey says it best. Get off the apps.

That was the move I decided to make many years ago.

The issue is not with the owner or the monopoly, the product itself is not fit for purpose. It's like with ultra processed garbage that passes as food ... it will still make you fat and sick, no matter who owns it or what its name is.
The main issues with the apps are: - the skewed male/female ratio
- the quality of people in general and females in special (because that's what we're interested in) that it attracts
- the whole process of selection/matching is superficial and unnatural, in other words you can't reduce attraction/seduction to a few filtered photos and a line of text.

Perfect analysis. That male/female ratio is horrendous.

 

[Scars]

It's not a dating app monopoly that's keeping most men single. This is just how the dating market is now. Women have the ability to "window shop" from the safety of their homes. With so many options, they only want the best of the best. That's why 10% of the men are dating 90% of all the women. If you aren't a chad, you will have a horrible time on dating apps. It doesn't matter which one it is. Average men can still have *some* success, but they have to work twice as hard for the same prospects that the top dudes get effortlessly.

 

[I_have_BDE]

It's not a dating app monopoly that's keeping most men single. This is just how the dating market is now. Women have the ability to "window shop" from the safety of their homes. With so many options, they only want the best of the best. That's why 10% of the men are dating 90% of all the women. If you aren't a chad, you will have a horrible time on dating apps. It doesn't matter which one it is. Average men can still have *some* success, but they have to work twice as hard for the same prospects that the top dudes get effortlessly.

But 90 percent of the women on old now are fat, ugly, tatted or crazy. Before covid there was a lot more hotties and i got numbers a lot more easily. Now I don't see that many hot women on old. Mostly trash. So you're paying to sift thru mostly trash.

 

[Solomon]

But 90 percent of the women on old now are fat, ugly, tatted or crazy. Before covid there was a lot more hotties and i got numbers a lot more easily. Now I don't see that many hot women on old. Mostly trash. So you're paying to sift thru mostly trash.

This is why meeting women in person is undefeated IMO you're better of meeting women doing a hobby like salsa dancing, hiking or heck even Church

It's not a dating app monopoly that's keeping most men single. This is just how the dating market is now. Women have the ability to "window shop" from the safety of their homes. With so many options, they only want the best of the best. That's why 10% of the men are dating 90% of all the women. If you aren't a chad, you will have a horrible time on dating apps. It doesn't matter which one it is. Average men can still have *some* success, but they have to work twice as hard for the same prospects that the top dudes get effortlessly.

The Average guy doing OLD is running a dummy mission once again you're better of meeting women in person or through social circle
The quality(in terms of looks) briefly went up during quarantine but now is abysmal. Most average guys doing OLD are lucky to get a match with a woman they are not attracted too in hope of some uninspired lackluster sex