True Men = Their Lives Do Not Revolve Around Women

[PackDaddy]

Hey guys, I'm writing this post because I recently stopped talking to a friend because of this. Long story short, he tried and tried and talked and talked about being a man with women, but could not walk his talk.

Not only does he place women at the forefront of his life, but many of my other friends only focus on girls when we go out. Like their lives revolve around women; like their lives orbit around women. Since they revolve around women, it is hard for them to get laid as well.

So your life is all about pleasing the opposite sex?

This is why I'm posting. The question is: Why place yourself as low as pleasing any other human being? Why supplicate?

Life should be about pursuing things you are interested in. Striving to be excellent in everything you do. It's your life and you are free to live it as you want. "Free"- not bound to p#$$y.

I personally noticed that the minute I stopped thinking about women, stopped looking at them in sexy clothes, and started focusing on myself I felt more powerful. I even noticed women giving me more attention. Be a man and the women will follow.

So, if you can stop thinking about getting laid, you will get laid more. But, if you stop thinking about getting laid in hopes of getting laid more, you will fail. You have to actually stop caring about sex. And then it will happen, in my experience.

 

[Uncharted]

A friend of mine (we went to school together) plays in the NFL. He's not a superstar, he's just someone who bounces from team to team (known as a journeyman). He is obsessed with football. Learning playbooks, schemes, whatever. He puts that first.

That sh!t turns on his girlfriends. There are times when he comes home after a practice and is totally engrossed in his playbook - he doesn't even feel like talking to his woman. It drives the girls crazy and they want him so bad because he's not putting her first.

He's the reason I started coming to this site. I wanted to be more like him but I realized the primary thing he did in his life is not put women first.

 

[Mike32ct]

I think some guys are afraid to put the game down, even temporarily. Some guys develop such as scarcity mindset that they believe this...

"If I don't go to the club EVERY weekend or spend hours on p of or <insert your game method> I won't get ANY action at all."

I was in that trap for a long time. I genuinely believed (and sadly still do at times) that it's Herculean game effort or zero action.

It's very difficult for some guys to believe that women can come to them. I know the OP and Unchartered are correct, but it's a tough one to digest if you're a guy that struggled in this area.

 

[VladPatton]

What I've noticed through the years is that there is a certain level of patethicism when all a guy is in to is women. Doctors, lawyers, men with 7 figure salaries have destroyed their lives because they HAD to bang this woman and cheat with that one. Total loss of control. Bustin a huge nut is great. Loving a beautiful female body is awesome. But Jeezy Creezy, get grip, it's only one course in life's banquet.

 

[spiegel549]

Hey guys, I'm writing this post because I recently stopped talking to a friend because of this. Long story short, he tried and tried and talked and talked about being a man with women, but could not walk his talk.

Not only does he place women at the forefront of his life, but many of my other friends only focus on girls when we go out. Like their lives revolve around women; like their lives orbit around women. Since they revolve around women, it is hard for them to get laid as well.

So your life is all about pleasing the opposite sex?

This is why I'm posting. The question is: Why place yourself as low as pleasing any other human being? Why supplicate?

Life should be about pursuing things you are interested in. Striving to be excellent in everything you do. It's your life and you are free to live it as you want. "Free"- not bound to p#$$y.

I personally noticed that the minute I stopped thinking about women, stopped looking at them in sexy clothes, and started focusing on myself I felt more powerful. I even noticed women giving me more attention. Be a man and the women will follow.

So, if you can stop thinking about getting laid, you will get laid more. But, if you stop thinking about getting laid in hopes of getting laid more, you will fail. You have to actually stop caring about sex. And then it will happen, in my experience.

It is funny because I JUST went through a similar situation. Except my "friend" thought I stopped talking to him because he couldn't keep his mouth shut after we repeatedly have promised each other to never repeat anything we talk about.

See that wasn't the issue. The issue was when I messaged my "friend" to address the issue and then later said it wasn't a big deal just don't repeat things we talk about (especially to girls) he showed extreme disrespect. Being sarcastic and quoting me from another friends previous fight (sticking his nose in others business where he doesn't belong) this was a side I never thought my "friend" had.

It's just funny how people change.. :crackup: :crackup:

 

[Burroughs]

A friend of mine (we went to school together) plays in the NFL. He's not a superstar, he's just someone who bounces from team to team (known as a journeyman). He is obsessed with football. Learning playbooks, schemes, whatever. He puts that first.

That sh!t turns on his girlfriends. There are times when he comes home after a practice and is totally engrossed in his playbook - he doesn't even feel like talking to his woman. It drives the girls crazy and they want him so bad because he's not putting her first.

He's the reason I started coming to this site. I wanted to be more like him but I realized the primary thing he did in his life is not put women first.

Your friend is a journeyman so he won't get giselle...but he is still in the NFL and that is why women find him attractive.

You could study all day and night, women don't care..women don't understand nor care about the come up

they want the man who has it

In college I played my guitar day and night...no one cared....when we almost got a recording contract with a major label women magically appeared.

once women appeared....THEN my personality became relevant...

not before


Its all Briffaults law.

 

[Smok1nAce]

we need more topics like this

 

[djjizzyjeff]

Your friend is a journeyman so he won't get giselle...but he is still in the NFL and that is why women find him attractive.

You could study all day and night, women don't care..women don't understand nor care about the come up

they want the man who has it

In college I played my guitar day and night...no one cared....when we almost got a recording contract with a major label women magically appeared.

once women appeared....THEN my personality became relevant...

not before


Its all Briffaults law.

Pretty amazing isn't it? Chicks want to sit on their azzes while the man does it all. Not "getting there" but already IS there so they can then parasite off him till something better comes along or he "completes" them. Most chicks are liabilities. Especially these days.

I know many of them in my part time. Older ones too even moreso. The older ones (several not all) are like one step from pretty much being prostitutes. Looking for men to take them out to dinner and buy them things. There are at least 6 I can recall who've had the balls to ask different dudes me included to buy them shoes or hint at it, or take them out to dinner etc. Word gets out amoungst the guys there and those types are laughed at and pitied. God help the poor fool who ends up with any of them.

Hell one of them was CONSTANTLY and still does as I pretty much ignore her hits on me..and she does it to a younger dude I know really well. Same chick who some older clown took on vacations, had roses delivered to our workplace..that she dumped recently. The clock may tick for these chicks but some decide to go for what they can get out of any clown who "dates" them. Pretty much prosties without walking the streets.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Your friend is a journeyman so he won't get giselle...but he is still in the NFL and that is why women find him attractive.

You could study all day and night, women don't care..women don't understand nor care about the come up

they want the man who has it

In college I played my guitar day and night...no one cared....when we almost got a recording contract with a major label women magically appeared.

once women appeared....THEN my personality became relevant...

not before


Its all Briffaults law.

Yup, so true. Now that I am in the big leagues, going on 6 years now, women, who know my salary, ARE so in to me, even though I'm the same I was, before, though a lot looser, and maybe even a lot LOSER - I believe that when women didn't notice me, when I was more innocent and more "good," that deep down, I wasn't a "loser." Now that I'm way ahead of a lot of people around me, with no worries really, other people struggling, especially women all around, I just suspect ALL women of seeing me as their "mark," a Man to solve all their problems, whether that be school debt, a home, car, family even. I'm seen as available, and I'm seen as a rich man. I'm not rich, but I'm always happy/content, and exude "secure," so I guess they all think I'm rich. I'm rich even by American standards, but I ain't showing that I'm in good shape, I don't drive a luxury vehicle nor live in a big vulgar fvcking house, but women Know what I do, so they want me and *think* that they can all have me, no matter if 50 years old or 22 hottie, the range is incredible, that the 50 year thinks she has just as much of a chance at me as a youngun just cause she's got a pvssy. nuh-uh, but too many guys have buttered their egos...ALL of them, that they cemented in their minds that No Matter What, they can have me via their pvssy golden gates, nuh-uh, not this non-chump, this guy-who-steers-clear-of-marriage-at-all-costs-cause-he-sees-the-casualties-of-coworkers/friends-all-around-who-have-to-work-harder-now-(child support)-for-the-mistake-of-marriage-to-your-typical-f'd-in-the-head-woman-who-can-withdraw-sex-eventually-and-THEN-where-will-U-BE-fvcked-is-where

Today, young cutie, I've know for a couple of years/summers, tats on her wrists, she's a hells angel, reminds me of my ex-oneitis A Lot but not quite. I'm attracted, but I Know, she'd fvck me over eventually, so whatever hamster wheel she's got runnin in her mind right now about me being her "ticket" she'd better look elsewhere for that cause I ain't bittin. I'll take a nibble of her but I'd never swallow her bait.

It IS like night and day, how women treat me and view me, from when I was poor and helpless, to now when I am well-to-do and strong. They Want my money. They Wanta be seen with me. They are ALL wh0res.

 

[PackDaddy]

Spiegel549 That's crazy man. I have a similar story. Except that my "friend" got mad at me because he listened to some actress C4NT and took her story. Then he tried to flame me with a text right after she barked at him on the beach. Again, he was a P***Y. I'm guessing he stood there and took Sh1t from her, when he should have been a man and told her to shove a cactus up her tw@t, since she was actually the one who brought up what he accused his friend of repeating. It was very high school of my "friend" to get mad too, since he had mentioned he didn't care about this girl.

My "friend" was also known to be a chronic liar (by all of our other friends in fact), which of course didn't help the case. I think this also might have been why he would tell all of his friends never to repeat things. So he could lie about it to the others. He never thought any of us would figure that out though.

I also sarcastically flamed my "friend" through text because I couldn't believe how stupid the scenario was. A complete joke.

The story learned is to never let a woman make you emotional over trivial matters. I guess the lesson I learned is not to make friends with guys who put women on a pedestal.

 

[Stagger Lee]

I think some guys are afraid to put the game down, even temporarily. Some guys develop such as scarcity mindset that they believe this...

"If I don't go to the club EVERY weekend or spend hours on p of or <insert your game method> I won't get ANY action at all."

I was in that trap for a long time. I genuinely believed (and sadly still do at times) that it's Herculean game effort or zero action.

It's very difficult for some guys to believe that women can come to them. I know the OP and Unchartered are correct, but it's a tough one to digest if you're a guy that struggled in this area.

I'll admit that I've put the game down for months sometimes a few years at a time and no women came. You have to be pretty dayum good looking and have a big personality for women to make any real moves on you while you just go about your everyday business.

Let's face it, most guys that game every weekend or whatever still are not gaming a vast majority of the time. If women fall in their laps at times not putting any effort, then they would not have a compelling reason to put effort into picking up.

The truth is for most men without prime looks, at prime age, and in a prime location, or borderline famous and rich, getting girls is a lot of leg work and a number's game.

Women are passive as hell in showing interest toward most guys because women don't need to put any effort to get an oversupply of men. Women are entitled. Women are not going to risk rejection however unlikely by sticking their neck out on the line. It's women whole game plan to not show a man interest or let him know he's got her for the taking.

While a man has to put in a massive effort, he has to make it appear that he's not putting in any effort. It's always a tight rope men have to walk. No effort, no results. Massive effort and he makes it obvious, very little or no results. Massive effort while making it appear to women he's not really trying, then fairly massive to some results depending mostly on how good looking he is.

Appearing indifferent towards a woman can be effective, but you still almost always have to break the ice, engage or approach at some point. Otherwise a woman just rationalizes that there most be something wrong with the man for not making a move. Just being indifferent can take mental effort and discipline.

 

[Burroughs]

The one thing that would balance the scale in favor of men would be legalized prostitution

I'm talking widespread...like mcdonalds...in every town..open..legal brothels....and above all no stigma or shame in using them...this is key

of course the elite have waged a shaming, religious campaign against prostitution in all western countries...no surprise....how can you turn men into wage slaves addicted to women if an easy supply of women exists readily willing to exchange secks for comparatively little coin.....sex must be as expensive as possible so men become slaves to women and are thus slaves of the state through debt ...study these connections

 

[Stagger Lee]

The one thing that would balance the scale in favor of men would be legalized prostitution

I'm talking widespread...like mcdonalds...in every town..open..legal brothels....and above all no stigma or shame in using them...this is key

of course the elite have waged a shaming, religious campaign against prostitution in all western countries...no surprise....how can you turn men into wage slaves addicted to women if an easy supply of women exists readily willing to exchange secks for comparatively little coin.....sex must be as expensive as possible so men become slaves to women and are thus slaves of the state through debt ...study these connections

Also ending affirmative action that gives women preference in education and employment over males. If men didn't have to hire, promote, retain women and walk on egg shells, women wouldn't have an economic advantage and financial freedom over men. If women had to use their real assets to get recources out of men instead of resources being forced over by affirmative action, then woman could nt be so super-hypergamous and independent.

If women earned what they are really worth and what men felt they truly deserved, women would have less of the resources and men more. Women would have to actually earn resources from men by doing something useful for them.

 

[Mike32ct]

You are absolutely correct. I was trying to avoid the looks topic, but it's always a factor. Even the football player guy in the story above has a football player's body.

I'm gonna have to backpedal on this and go with Stagger and Burroughs.

I'll admit that I've put the game down for months sometimes a few years at a time and no women came. You have to be pretty dayum good looking and have a big personality for women to make any real moves on you while you just go about your everyday business.

Let's face it, most guys that game every weekend or whatever still are not gaming a vast majority of the time. If women fall in their laps at times not putting any effort, then they would not have a compelling reason to put effort into picking up.

The truth is for most men without prime looks, at prime age, and in a prime location, or borderline famous and rich, getting girls is a lot of leg work and a number's game.
Women are passive as hell in showing interest toward most guys because women don't need to put any effort to get an oversupply of men. Women are entitled. Women are not going to risk rejection however unlikely by sticking their neck out on the line. It's women whole game plan to not show a man interest or let him know he's got her for the taking.

While a man has to put in a massive effort, he has to make it appear that he's not putting in any effort. It's always a tight rope men have to walk. No effort, no results. Massive effort and he makes it obvious, very little or no results. Massive effort while making it appear to women he's not really trying, then fairly massive to some results depending mostly on how good looking he is.

Appearing indifferent towards a woman can be effective, but you still almost always have to break the ice, engage or approach at some point. Otherwise a woman just rationalizes that there most be something wrong with the man for not making a move. Just being indifferent can take mental effort and discipline.

 

[Aristippus]

Meeting women isn't really that huge of a deal. It's actually better to take a minimalist approach to meeting women. The funny thing is, being extremely interested in other things and not making women the most important thing in your life can make it more likely you'll take a minimalist approach and also that you won't throw a monkey wrench into a situation where the woman is already attracted to you.

I firmly believe that nature makes it easy for men to procreate, although most people aren't thinking about procreation when they're having sex. Nature makes it easy, but people sabotage the natural way things work by putting women on pedestals, devaluing themselves, and ignoring their behavioral standards when they see a woman who is pleasing to the eye. This screws up the male's behavior, he tries to hard to contort himself to please the woman instead of just being an interesting, attractive person.

Am I saying some men don't need to improve in certain areas? No. I'm saying that no matter how high or how low you are on a scale from 1-10 in all areas, there's someone out there waiting for you. Nature basically plays "matchmaker" by default, and whatever level you're at, there's the female equivalent of you just waiting for you to take her home and show her a good time.

 

[PlayHer Man]

+ 1 PackDaddy.

Great thread gentlemen. Lots of wise comments so far.

Its true that women only care about what you can do for them. They wh0re themselves out for the best "deal". Who gets the woman depends on what the woman wants at that stage in life. What she wants will change each decade as long as she has lots of options.

A lot of men today foolishly fall into the bio-clock hype. They find themselves still single in their late 20's or early 30's and start freaking out. They forget they are MEN and they have much more time than women. But these scare tactics are placed on men via peer pressure and society to rob men of MORE of their power.

See... a man who knows he can take his time and "wait" won't be as quick to appease women. But if men think "old sperm" will make their kids retarded.. then they are placed on the same biological timeline as women.. thus giving women MORE POWER. There is also this idea promoted by the media that a man is not complete without a woman... while at the same time "I don't need a man" promotes the idea that women are complete without men.

When men spend their teens, 20's and 30's chasing sex, love and family above all other things rather then trying to rise in the world by attaining power and resources.. that just gives women more room to succeed where men fail.

There are only so many high positions in the world. For a woman to reach one, a man must fail first (since men are generally much much better at reaching these positions). But men without motivation will not rise in the world, thus leaving room for women to take their place. Look at the music industry of today --> Saturated with women. It used to be the opposite. And in most media (TV and movies) women are the "voice of reason" in every story-line. WTF?? :crazy: This just trains young men to trust a woman's judgement over their own... and many do.

The more high positions women get in the world, the more power they have. Financial power leads to political power. The Golden Rule says = Whoever has the gold makes the rules!

Men focus on sex while women focus on power. With each generation men get more lazy and complacent while women get more ambitious and aggressive. By the time my generation is running the world there will be more powerful women than men. Most men will be appeasing beta faggots who live for sex and female approval.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Women gravitate towards men who are admired and respected by their peers. It really is as simple as that. Whether you are pro athlete, a self-made millionaire, a famous musician or simply a popular guy in high school, it doesn't really matter. To be admired and respected by others, you must have some quality that elevates you above them. That is the quintessential characteristic of a true alpha male.

 

[PackDaddy]

Men focus on sex while women focus on power.

This seems to be very true these days.

 

[Burroughs]

+ 1 PackDaddy.



Men focus on sex while women focus on power. With each generation men get more lazy and complacent while women get more ambitious and aggressive. By the time my generation is running the world there will be more powerful women than men. Most men will be appeasing beta faggots who live for sex and female approval.

Very true

And this will be the ruin of the world

For as much as women lust for power....in their minds...women are pure and utter morons

women have neither the wit nor intelligence to create or invent.....they never have and they never will

women as leaders will mark the end of mankind

no more medical discoveries, endless wars of vindictiveness....you think things are bad now...wait till women rule :crazy:

 

[corrector]

I think Stagger Lee is right, unless you have really good looks and/or a big personality and you go about your every day business then it's really difficult to see any woman come out of the woodwork and connect with you.

That's why some guys are just lucky in this department, whether they are naturals, or whatever, and other guys are always hitting a brick wall, whether it's meeting women, or hitting it at some point in a relationship with one.

I'm not invested into meeting new women and when I make the odd effort here it just is a disaster. If your life revolves around women then you may turn misogynistic and get depressed so you have to find other things to occupy your mind to build you up.