True love died right before my moms generation

[zekko]

Birth control and legalized abortion, for instance, means women can slvt it up without fear of getting pregnant. And even if they do have a kid, a welfare system is in place so the rest of us pick up the pieces.

Not a bad point there. You always hear about how women have to be more choosy and monogomous because they have the risk of pregnancy. With birth control and abortion, that risk is out the window. In fact, maybe "the pill" is the true source of the problems between women and men.

Also, aside from the welfare system, there's no better way to get a fat tax return than to have a kid. I bet a single mother pays virtually no income tax.

Not only this, but the rise of the sex culture has made men slaves to pvssy, brainwashed 24/7 by the media. Beta behavior is actively encouraged and reinforced. Men are growing up without male role models.

Right, the divorce rate is having a snowball effect, because so many males are now being raised by women. It's surprising masculinity is surviving at all.

I can't turn on the tv for one minute without a show or commercial trying to show me how much of a loser I am for being single or for not fuvking model looking women all the time.

Lol, are you sure you're not talking about the SoSuave forum?

 

[Lexington]

People from old generations didn't love each other any more that people today. The difference is, they had much more realistic expectations of marriage. The husband has certain duties, the wife has certain duties. So long as both partners performed their duties, there was no grounds for divorce.

Today, most people have incredibly unrealistic expectations about marriage. In the old days, people truly did not base marriage on lust. They understood, as do many people in more traditional societies, that marriage is an arrangement to have children and is about STABILITY. That's why it's called "settling down."

What ends up happening with most folks is that they choose their mates based almost entirely on sexual attraction and passion (e.g. Sandra Bullock). The thing is, these are almost certainly going to fade with time. It's very hard to sustain a relationship based on these things for decades.

There are lots of girls that I think are sexy and beautiful etc. But I know they'd make terrible wives. A wife is much more than just a lover. She is most importantly, the mother of your children.

You had 3 important criteria in looking for a mate in the old days: she should be from a good family, she should be of good character and she should have adequate looks. That was it.

Today, in countries where arranged marriages are the norm, divorce rates are lower than what they are in the U.S.! These couples barely knew each other before getting married and yet their marriages are more successful. Why? Because there is a sense of duty on the part of the husband and the wife and the expectations of what marriage should entail are realistically achievable.

Another interesting factoid: marriages to mail order brides are more successful than those to American women. Again, the common denominator is lowered expectations. The mail order bride gets a provider, the man gets sex and someone to birth and raise his kids. That's it.

 

[GetOveIT]

True love never existed its just a myth, Wake up and smell the horse sh*t.

 

[catman]

If you could find a women whos parents are still married and you could some how convince her that the reason their still married is because her dad knows his dutys and her mom knows hers then you might stand a chance??? Next you would have to keep her locked up and away from all her single and or married but *****ing girlfriends? Some how i think finding a needle in a hay stack would be more likely

 

[Scion]

If you could find a women whos parents are still married and you could some how convince her that the reason their still married is because her dad knows his dutys and her mom knows hers then you might stand a chance??? Next you would have to keep her locked up and away from all her single and or married but *****ing girlfriends? Some how i think finding a needle in a hay stack would be more likely

or just find a girl that knows her place as a woman and likes it. They exist, I've met one.

 

[Dubh]

man lexington u hit it right on the head my man

 

[Ronnie Poleman]

I'm definitely not bitter when I say this, because I'm not old/experienced enough to have been broken apart properly by women, but I don't think that the 'love' that is referred to in songs, movies and other forms of media actually exists. I say this because I've never fallen in love, and I don't particularly want to in the way that the media portrays it, because it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOO AFC .

I illustrate my point further: A few days ago I put on Disney's Lion King for some kids I was babysitting, just for a change from the uninspiring BS like Hannah Montana that kids' shows have nowadays (that generation are going to be messed up, growing up under Bush's rule and uninspiring media cultivating fear + hate lol) and the Disney love song BS really reminded me why as a kid I found the idea of love so corny and repulsive. Don't get me wrong, it was nice and cute in places, but a little too far in my 4 year-old self's opinion (my mind worked a little too hard lol).

The male lead characters in Disney films and a lot of other non-Disney films/tv programs are AFCs when it comes to girls, everything they say, and do around the girl just stinks of AFC. I don't recall any Disney male lead characters having a Don Juan attitude. Now THAT would be an effective role model for kids.

My points are, Dubh, as mentioned by other members here, did the 'true love' that you speak of ever exist in the first place? Because the 'love' that the media has bastardized so much through countless corny songs (Taylor Swift makes me angry), commercials and films is definitely NOT true love.

Some members here argue that it is a sum of balanced expectations, commitments and roles in a family unit that complement each other.

That begs the question, Dubh, what is true love and how do you define it?

 

[DanelMadr]

I think that its frankly pretty ridiculous how many posts I see on this forum lamenting the loss of the "traditional" woman, longing for a return to the oppressive social eras of the 50's and before.

So they arent willing to settle down and be housewives at 18 anymore, and are actually looking for jobs and careers, and embracing their sexual natures. No big deal. This is not a "loss of true love", this is just a redefinition of gender roles to give women a little bit more independence and assertiveness.

Note that a woman is still a woman. She will still behave in predictable ways, and there are still roles for the masculine man to play. Stop blaming women's rights for your failings and suck it up.

Exactly. They (we) have more options now thanks to condoms, pills, prosperity, free society etc. And it is not exactly bad thing.

O.K. lots of people can't bare it so they grow up selfish, bratty, mean females with arrogant male attitudes or selfish, spoiled, frightened males with bad feminine treats. They do some pretty bad decisions in their lives - screwing around, no children, no responsibility and then they cry and blame it on society.

People were always like this. True love can happen thanks to two people being compatible, mature, forgiving etc. Not because of socitety conditions which force them to stay together and eventualy get used to each other.

Another note...less children being born thanks to our conditions. I believe it is OK. Planet is pretty crowded....it is better when only stable couples who want children have them - it is better for the child too.

Yeah white trash and third world is still producing their share of hungry necks but if we don't loose our technology advantage and our balls, we will be OK - they wont conquer us.

 

[DanelMadr]

Not a bad point there. You always hear about how women have to be more choosy and monogomous because they have the risk of pregnancy. With birth control and abortion, that risk is out the window. In fact, maybe "the pill" is the true source of the problems between women and men.

Also, aside from the welfare system, there's no better way to get a fat tax return than to have a kid. I bet a single mother pays virtually no income tax.


Right, the divorce rate is having a snowball effect, because so many males are now being raised by women. It's surprising masculinity is surviving at all.


Lol, are you sure you're not talking about the SoSuave forum?

Pills, condoms, abortion....

At least NOW you can see which girl is a sl*t and which is the more responsible one. Before pills, condoms and abortion you had to marry her

 

[GetOveIT]

Pills, condoms, abortion....

At least NOW you can see which girl is a sl*t and which is the more responsible one. Before pills, condoms and abortion you had to marry her

Do you realy think there such thing as responsible women nowadays?

 

[OFWHAP]

Do you realy think there such thing as responsible women nowadays?

If you hate women this much, why don't you go gay instead? There are plenty of good girls out there. There are also plenty of terrible girls out there. This is the way it always has been and always will be. In the end I think the previous generations just had better expectations of the married life. Being a mother/wife was actually the only career choice available to our grandmothers and women of prior generations. If a woman managed to go to college back it he day, it really was to get an MRS degree.

 

[DanelMadr]

Do you realy think there such thing as responsible women nowadays?

Absolutely. Come on. Not every girl is single mom or bored wife. I'd say approximately 10% has very strong integrity. And another 20% is tolerable.

And I think it goes the same way with men. How many really good (can bet on them in any situation) men do you know? I mean responsible because they are responsible not because they are afraid not to be? 10%???

Stop judging girls based on clubs with attention *****s. When I am in a club I can even point you out several girls, who don't "belong" there and won't suck your richard on the toilet.

There are guys who put women in two categories. Sl*ts and *****es. Sl*ts sleep with everyone and *****es sleep with anyone except them
Don't be one of them.

Demand quality and quality you shall find.

 

[Zarky]

nonononono

Ugh, this thread is like the horrible trolls over at Loveshack.org. Whiny and pathetic.

I love women these days. They are easier (not easy enough IMHO), more fun, more independent, yet still have lots of love to give.

There's no better time in history to be a single man, IMHO. You don't have society telling you to get married and have kids. Or at least it's not mandatory. Women can screw you before marriage. You have the internet to find hookups. Birth control is easy to find. More and more women are delaying or eschewing marriage and family.

IMHO it's wonderful. I'm dating several different women and have new dates every month. :rockon:

 

[Dubh]

RONNIES MY MAN LOVE-IS A STATE OF THOUGHT THATS WHAT THE DICTIONARY SAYS
Zarky im all for being a man in this time and era but it just dawned on me that my grandparents actually love each other so if you think thats whiney stay off my topics
this is just some out of the box thinking well rounded dj's do this from time to time

 

[Dubh]

its not all about im gon get laid, how can i get my gf back? y isnt she talking to me? <<<<<<
AFC



ALL OF THAT IS IN THE BOX NEW TO THIS FORUM THINKING

 

[f283000]

I..ll...um...inati did it

It is a fact that the rockefeller foundation among other American organizations pretty much started the femminist movement with their funding. These same organizations funded nazi eugenics. Feminism sole purpose from its foundation was to lower the birth rate.

Unless you think greedy racist old white men that funded the feminist movement really cared for the rights of women.