True love died right before my moms generation

[Dubh]

I've come to a conclusion that true love died right before my parents generation so my grandma and grandpa looks like they are happly married its sad to think that my mom and dads generation the bommer babies killed off this state of mind called true love it seems like it has gotten worse by the decade but i really think it exisisted once b4 thats just my thoughts what do you guys think?


Dont get me wrong I feel like when I turn 40+ and when a women turns 40+ then you have a shot at settling down but for now the mindset on most dudes should be as the actions of a normal 18-35yr old women

 

[Falcon25]

I agree. Any woman under age of 32 acts like a man now. True love went out the window a long time ago. Just sleep with em and don't catch feelings till you find the right one.

 

[pipe007]

women in today's generation are being socialized to be more assertive, less dependent on men, to get a job, a career and generally to exercise equal rights with men.

so this has greatly influenced how most women in our generation behave as they feel a sense of empowerment... they have been given more open expression of sexuality and they have learned that its ok to be sexual and be open to their sexual desires..

which before was a sin for women to be sexual before marriage.

today that does not exist.

in other cultures such as cuba.. women are learning since younger ages that men are replaceable and these girls are good at the game and they can get one boyfriend after the other without a problem

women are learning to feel empowered and that they have options, so now they rationalize that even if they are in a relatinoship, if their attraction for her man decreases, she is entitled to search for a new lover.

its just reality

 

[Adonis PUA Trainer]

I..ll...um...inati did it

 

[Dubh]

Man it feels good to know im not the only one seeing this

 

[OamImrsNemo]

Yeah sucks...Thats why the alpha is able to adapt to any situation.

 

[nismo-4]

I truly agree with Pipe. Most women act as if they don't need a man in their life. True love has been abolished.

 

[starplayer]

I don't believe there was ever such a thing as "true love".

However, I agree 2-3 generations ago there was a balance of power which meant a couple could marry young and be together for the rest of their lives. The man acted as the man and the woman acted as the woman, and an emotional bond of sorts formed between them.

Today this just isn't possible. The gender roles are messed up and instead of a couple working together, they are now working against each other. It's become very dog eat dog.

It's not women's fault - they're just doing what's in their best interests. This is just a cultural pattern seen in a weakening society.

It's highly unlikely we'll see any change in our lifetimes so we better get used to it.

 

[Scion]

Ding ding ding, starplayer's right on. Currently the gender roles are messed up because of feminism and equal rights (though you may notice it's not equal rights, feminists just wanted all the advantages men had while keeping all the advantages women had). I have faith that one day the gender roles will fix themselves (ie men and women will learn how to co-exist) although I doubt it'll be in our generation. Off topic though, have any of you ever met a woman that actually acted like a woman, it's a breath of fresh air.

 

[Serg897]

I think that its frankly pretty ridiculous how many posts I see on this forum lamenting the loss of the "traditional" woman, longing for a return to the oppressive social eras of the 50's and before.

So they arent willing to settle down and be housewives at 18 anymore, and are actually looking for jobs and careers, and embracing their sexual natures. No big deal. This is not a "loss of true love", this is just a redefinition of gender roles to give women a little bit more independence and assertiveness.

Note that a woman is still a woman. She will still behave in predictable ways, and there are still roles for the masculine man to play. Stop blaming women's rights for your failings and suck it up.

 

[SoldMySoul]

I AGREE one million percent. Women my age are just as bad as the younger ones. The older they become, the more issues they start having and taking on the male persona.

Does true love exist, well.... once upon a time I believed it, but now... NOT so much. Better to stave off deep emotions for the fairer sex and always remain a challenge.

 

[SoldMySoul]

I think that its frankly pretty ridiculous how many posts I see on this forum lamenting the loss of the "traditional" woman, longing for a return to the oppressive social eras of the 50's and before.

So they arent willing to settle down and be housewives at 18 anymore, and are actually looking for jobs and careers, and embracing their sexual natures. No big deal. This is not a "loss of true love", this is just a redefinition of gender roles to give women a little bit more independence and assertiveness.

Note that a woman is still a woman. She will still behave in predictable ways, and there are still roles for the masculine man to play. Stop blaming women's rights for your failings and suck it up.

I do agree with some of your post, but your age has you blinded in what is going on. I can say as I am old enough to be your father, that women have changed over the years. And men older than I will attest to this as well. Just as people your age are different than what I was at that age.

Our society has changed. When you age, you will discover a lot of women can be self centered, shallow, and out for themselves. Not all because there are good ones out there, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Masculine role to me: Hit it like you mean it!!! Do not be the guy paying for the household, taking out the trash, etc.... while she is asserting herself going out finding the man to fill her dirty side. Even playing the role for her dirty side gets old. Sure it is fun early on and when you are younger, but the older you get the older it gets.

 

[mikeyb]

We gave women equality and in return they turned us into glorified sperm donors. And they complain that we just see them as sex toys while acting like they like it. That's just the way women are. But don't go thinking that every married couple from the last generation was madly in love either. .

 

[Lexington]

I think that its frankly pretty ridiculous how many posts I see on this forum lamenting the loss of the "traditional" woman, longing for a return to the oppressive social eras of the 50's and before.

So they arent willing to settle down and be housewives at 18 anymore, and are actually looking for jobs and careers, and embracing their sexual natures. No big deal. This is not a "loss of true love", this is just a redefinition of gender roles to give women a little bit more independence and assertiveness.

Note that a woman is still a woman. She will still behave in predictable ways, and there are still roles for the masculine man to play. Stop blaming women's rights for your failings and suck it up.

Agreed. These changes in society are neither "bad" nor "good." All societies evolve over time. Rather than lamenting that things are different, we should adapt to the changes. Obviously the world has changed from past generations, so we should stop acting like we're still in those times.

I do think that feminism has pushed its bounds somewhat. Women have equality but if you ask the average femi-nazi (you can find lots of them on college campuses), we treat women here worse than they do in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia etc.

And what exactly is "true love?" first of all? Can we please get a working definition of that? Because if the OP is using it in the way that most people use it, it NEVER existed.

 

[SoldMySoul]

And what exactly is "true love?" first of all? Can we please get a working definition of that? Because if the OP is using it in the way that most people use it, it NEVER existed.

Au contraire mon fraire, I beg to differ. Have you ever taken a stroll through any nursing homes, assisted living homes or like place? I have and a bunch!!!!! I have seen couples still living together because they had "true love". I have seen people and talked to the sick, injured and dying of older people and they speak of it. Their actions show me, their speech tells me.

Furthermore, I watched my grandmother tend to my bed ridden grandfather, whom was a victim of MS and was overdose of a local area hospital. This couple loved unconditionally and it was true.

There are some older folks that do hate their ex, but the woman entering into the workplace destroyed traditional society as our grandparents knew it. You too, are still too young to make an assessment or form an hypothesis on the matter of true love. True love once existed and for the lucky few, it still does.

I knew a couple that was friends of my mother before she died in 1996. The couple loved like NO other. The husband hurt his hands at work, and his loving spouse assisted him wiping his ass. That my friend is true love.

 

[zekko]

I agree 2-3 generations ago there was a balance of power which meant a couple could marry young and be together for the rest of their lives.

I guess you're saying that without the economic advantage of being the breadwinner, man cannot achieve a balance of power with women? I don't know, it might be true, but if it is that would suggest the male gender is pretty pathetic.

 

[starplayer]

I guess you're saying that without the economic advantage of being the breadwinner, man cannot achieve a balance of power with women? I don't know, it might be true, but if it is that would suggest the male gender is pretty pathetic.

I wouldn't say males are pathetic. We do have the odds stacked against us right now. The economic power of women is one factor, and an important one at that, but there are other factors which have destroyed the balance.

Birth control and legalized abortion, for instance, means women can slvt it up without fear of getting pregnant. And even if they do have a kid, a welfare system is in place so the rest of us pick up the pieces.

Not only this, but the rise of the sex culture has made men slaves to pvssy, brainwashed 24/7 by the media. Beta behavior is actively encouraged and reinforced. Men are growing up without male role models. The law favors women in many areas, such as divorce. The list goes on.

These are good times for alpha males who get a lot sex from different women, but bad times for beta males who get sh!t on (and ultimately I think women are the real losers in all of this).

HOWEVER, it's no good sitting around and complaining about it. Society is the way it is - for better or for worse, feminism happened. We have to accept it, then adapt and deal with it.

 

[Dubh]

O I have definatley accepted it my fellow dj and I have adapted and taken my blue pill but its just crazy because I hear my grandma talk about how she loved my grandpa and I thought I would just share with you guys on how love had to have exisited once b4 thats all there is to it no wimpeness about thinking a couple generations ago that love actually meant something thats all

 

[Falcon25]

I wouldn't say males are pathetic. We do have the odds stacked against us right now. The economic power of women is one factor, and an important one at that, but there are other factors which have destroyed the balance.

Birth control and legalized abortion, for instance, means women can slvt it up without fear of getting pregnant. And even if they do have a kid, a welfare system is in place so the rest of us pick up the pieces.

Not only this, but the rise of the sex culture has made men slaves to pvssy, brainwashed 24/7 by the media. Beta behavior is actively encouraged and reinforced. Men are growing up without male role models. The law favors women in many areas, such as divorce. The list goes on.

These are good times for alpha males who get a lot sex from different women, but bad times for beta males who get sh!t on (and ultimately I think women are the real losers in all of this).

HOWEVER, it's no good sitting around and complaining about it. Society is the way it is - for better or for worse, feminism happened. We have to accept it, then adapt and deal with it.

Completely agree with this. Especially the media part. I can't turn on the tv for one minute without a show or commercial trying to show me how much of a loser I am for being single or for not fuvking model looking women all the time. Sex is everywhere in American television and media. And if you happen to be a guy who concentrates on other things, you are known as a geek, nerd, or loner.

 

[DonGorgon]

yup social concepts like true love were killed by excessive capitalism!!