Trouble Sustaining A Conversation

Freddy1

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Hey Bros!
I need some good tips here.
I'm having trouble sustaining a conversation with girls. I could start the conversation but then it suddenly dies. My fear kicks in and my mind goes blank. I'm struggling like crazy to come up with words or things to say. I feel like crap. :kick:
 

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I can relate, I actually have the same problem.

Realize though man, you can talk about anything at all that comes to your mind. A really big topic is current events, like if you read the newspaper you can mention a really cool story you read. Even things like movies, tv shows, books and music can be great topics.

One thing you really wanna do is get the girl to talk, let her do the work for you to help guide the conversation. It's a two-way street in every conversation, you gotta take turns leading and listening and you would be smart to stop occasionally along the way.

One thing that helps me is I think up a bunch of backup questions I can use if the conversation is about to die. This is REALLY USEFUL. Make up in your mind some good open-ended questions you can use as a last resort if you fear your conversation is about to die.

Don't stress it - the most important thing about a conversation is to have fun with it!
 

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This indicates to me that you're trying too hard to impress the girl. Try not to think of it as a performance and just try to enjoy yourself. Do you ever have a tough time carrying on a conversation with your best friend? Probably not. You just talk about whatever comes to mind. It's the same thing with girls. The thing is, it's easy to get nervous and blank out.

When you're flirting with some girl you've met, the conversation doesn't even have to be logical. In fact, very often the less logical it is, the better. Just keep it very playful and you can even say absurd things. It's not about what you say, but how you say it.
 

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Lexington said:
This indicates to me that you're trying too hard to impress the girl.
It happens with all girls.


Lexington said:
Do you ever have a tough time carrying on a conversation with your best friend? Probably not. You just talk about whatever comes to mind. It's the same thing with girls. The thing is, it's easy to get nervous and blank out.
Most of the time no. But guys can talk about subjects that guys can relate to. You can talk about politics, history, sports, girls, boxing etc but these are not the type of things girls want to hear.
 
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I think the best direction for this would be to think of some sort of story and memorise a few different stories and sort of direct the conversation naturally in a way that starting the story wouldn't look like it was planed out. Try and pick a story that will express your personality to her so she can connect with you, or relate. Google storytelling techniques. Also, look for spring-boards from what she is saying -- if you have anything at all to relate to something with her, then talk about it.

Other than that, I don't know what to say. For stuff like this you need a model that's confident with women and picking them up to show you the ropes. I'd look at guys who approach and talk to women and spy on how they are interacting with them (naturally you may feel jealous, but you have to swallow a pill and learn). Obviously having a friend who is good at this should help.
 

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Many people find it hard to keep the conversation going or starting a conversation. And very few people in this community give out tips for this. If you read the bible about conversation tips, it doesn't say much. I guess you can be good at this is by always talking to anyone, anywhere if you have a chance so you'll never ran out of something to talk about when you have a conversation
 

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If you're really connecting with someone the content isn't that important. You want to let an atmosphere, a feeling happen, that's why focusing almost solely on content doesn't work that great. In fact, it can completely get in the way because you're thinking about what to say next instead of paying attention to to what really matters: Being in the moment with her and allowing the conversation to go somewhere productive and fun.

If the speaking part of your performance is off, you'll know if because you will suck at charming women on the phone. If your phone convos go great but you suck ass at meeting women in bars, then it's not the content that needs fixing, it's your image, the aura you're projecting, and the fact that you're not using vibe creating and smart body language/paralanguage. Even the position I am standing or sitting in will be more important than remembering that great story from the Internet.

Anxiety does reduce cognitive resources. People speak at about 150 words per minute or less. Your brain can process about 500 words per minute. You have lots of resources even if she were talking nonstop, but as the OP mentioned anxiety can cut this difference down. Specifically in bars men can be affected by stereotype threat. This occurs when they think people in clubs can tell "this person isn't a club guy, or he doesn't belong here I bet he sucks at socializing in here" and because they are afraid of confirming the stereotype of "being a person like that", the performance actually goes way down. That's why some people use positive visualization to help deal with this. Additionally, learning any performance art that requires being on stage should help with anxiety. If you can play music or give a large presentation, talking to a girl might seem pretty safe in comparison.
 

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slaog said:
Check out the 'gift of the gab' and 'art of gibberish' links in my signature. :up:
Yeah some guys have the gift of the gab! :rockon:
 

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Man, there is so much in this World to talk about, music, movies, politics, news, current events, family, friends, places, clubs, bars, museums, art gallerys etc...
 

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everywomanshero said:
If you can play music or give a large presentation, talking to a girl might seem pretty safe in comparison.
Interesting! I have given a gouple of small piano concerts, and it is all about switching off your doubts. I find it fairly easy - because I am always prepared and I KNOW I can handle the piece with ease. And I don't have to lie to myself, because it is simply true. Here I am used to success. This gets me started, and after a few seconds my brain shuts off, since the piece needs my full attention. I am then able to perform flawlessly.

With girls: well it is more difficult to believe that it will work, because I tend to fail as often as I succeed. So whenever I say to myself "I AM TEH SH1T AND IT WILL SURELY WORK" it's not entirely true. So it's hard to overcome doubts and switch off. Alcohol helps sometimes. Probably the only way to overcome it is more experience.
 

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script

learn the following script by heart ( adapted from the script i use in FRANCE)

" 2 secs i am looking for the station i am in a hurry

" you speak with a weird accent ( NEG ) are you from the coUntry?


do they serve food at the station or it is better to eat on the train?



LAST YEAR ( story ) i had a hamburger down the road with my french girl friend it was full of maggots !she spent the whole day in the crapper i was ok cos of eating rough meat while hiking in the ROCKIES ( alphaness )

I COMPLAINED TO THE BOSS AND I GOT TWO FREE CINEMA TICKETS ( alphaness )

SO THE EATING PLACES ARE HEALTHY AROUND HERE?



ARE YOU A LOCAL GIRL I THOUGHT ALL THE GIRLS AROUND HERE WERE WEARING THIS OR THAT a BASEBALL CAP
you d look good like a typical american woman ( NEG ) on vacation in EUROPE wearing one of these
do u think all american women d wear a baseball cap YOUR LOCAL DOCTOR YOUR BANK MANAGER?


THANKS FOR YOUR HELP ( you qualify her ) I LL TELL YOU WHAT I LL GIVE YOU MY DETAILS
 

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HOW GET 7 telephone numbers in 2 HOURS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

in one week i got more telephone numbers than in 7 months
TWO REASONS
i realized that you got to get the girl committed to get her INVOLVED in the convo this is CRUCIAL she needs to feel she is been pulling her weight also that she s " contributed " to the convo so
COMMITMENT IS THE KEY ON BOTH PARTS BOTH PARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nOW though i got good convo going thru the use of prewritten scripts i only got 6 numbers all for all in the space of 7 months

so what s was wrong ( negging i was ****YING and FUNNYING OPINIONASKING all the stuff learnt by heart ) WXHAT WAS AMISS?
One day i stumped on style s chapter 20 ( THE RULES OF THE GAMES and that made all the diffrence thru using his techniqUe i often manage to get 6 telephone in 2 hours


after that i started textoing the girls no reaction on the whole
until i discovered another truth .........
 

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I have the same problem....

I have no problem saying hi, smiling, but i get stuck after that. I've decided that we need to go old school on this problem.

And by old school i mean kindergarden. As a kid, like many at that age, I was naturally curious. I think I need to force that back. What's her name, you know that rarely occurs to ask. Its not even fear, its just blanked out.

Its time to become naturally curious again. What's your name, where you from, what brought you here, why you at this bar, isn't this the smallest supermarket you ever saw, what's this, what's that and on.
 

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Same problem here. Guys =/= girls.
At least I have a minor advantage of not giving a stuff about mainstream sport, though I'm into martial arts and adrenaline sports like paintball.

I find a good area to talk about is holidays. It sets a good mood if you pick up and guide her through it, and it's a good way to see if she likes her family, her friends, if she likes culture or is a party-animal.
 

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suggestion

Learn how to do fluff talk
learn some canned material, talk about daily stuff news etc
 
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