Triggering Tantrums

[bigneil]

She's beautiful when she's angry. But when was the last time you got her really angry? I mean REALLY angry. You know, where she used profanity in all capitals, when she told you that you can go f*ck her best friend for all she cares? With grit teeth and steam coming out her ears? If you aren't making her that angry occasionally, are you sure she really cares about you all that much?

It's best when her tantrums are triggered by subtle, humorous comments that you make while sincerely not attempting to anger her.

Robert Greene touches upon the nature of tantrums at the end of Chapter 21 (p 190) in The Art of Seduction:

"We learn to love only through rejection. As infants, we are showered with love by our mother - we know nothing else. But when we get a little older, we begin to sense that her love is not unconditional. If we do not behave, if we do not please her, she can withdraw it. The idea that she will withdraw her affection fills us with anxiety, and, at first, with anger - we will show her, we will throw a tantrum. But that never works, and we slowly realize that the only way to keep her from rejecting us again is to imitate her - to be as loving, kind and affectionate as she is. This will bond her to us in the deepest way. The pattern is ingrained in us for therest of our lives: by experiencing a rejection or a coldness, we learn to court and pursue, to love.

Re-create this primal pattern in your seduction.... they will have moments of anxiety and anger, perhaps throwing a tantrum, and then the same childlike reaction: the only way to win you back, to have you for sure, will be to reverse the pattern to imitate you, to be the affectionate, giving one.

This pattern will often repeat itself naturally in an affair.... as a seducer, do not leave this to chance."

IMPORTANT: If you are going to trigger an occasional tantrum you must remember:

a) Do not take what she says personally (your best bet is to laugh at her).
b) Never respond to her personal comments (let her save face, you deserve to hear it at that point).
c) You especially need to know how to defuse her. What often works is to say something to the effect of "You're beautiful when you're angry", or if she's jealous say "She's not as pretty as you".
d) If you can get her to do an instant 180 from her tantrum, even better, for then you know you are in complete control of her emotions, and you know her heart is in it.

"Never be put off by a flash of anger or resentment, it is a sure sign of enslavement" - Robert Greene

 

[ScottMustaine]

Requesting example of how to do the above mentioned in form of dialogue. I learn a lot from just reading few examples and then fitting it into my own way.

 

[PeakIV]

Um this is Borderline Personality Disorder thinking 101. Not something a thinking man of character would employ. Any victim of borderline personality disordered relationships knows it is an effective tactic but I certainly would not use it. Also making people angry so you know they care is a sign of mental illness.

Im inclined to agree, it's fu**ing terrifying when they do the whole steam out of the ears stuff and screaming abuse , not normal behaviour.

You don't even want to make these women a little jealous, it's just not worth it unless you are prepared for hours of mayhem, till they come back from being dysregulated..

 

[ScottMustaine]

This could only be used when she's trying to make you jealous. Not to test her.

If you try making her jealous, prepare for being cheated soon enough.

 

[Asterisk]

We learn to love only through rejection. As infants, we are showered with love by our mother - we know nothing else. But when we get a little older, we begin to sense that her love is not unconditional. If we do not behave, if we do not please her, she can withdraw it. The idea that she will withdraw her affection fills us with anxiety, and, at first, with anger - we will show her, we will throw a tantrum. But that never works, and we slowly realize that the only way to keep her from rejecting us again is to imitate her - to be as loving, kind and affectionate as she is. This will bond her to us in the deepest way. The pattern is ingrained in us for therest of our lives: by experiencing a rejection or a coldness, we learn to court and pursue, to love.

This is learning to love like your mother! can you say "AFC-momma's-boy"?

Go read the DJ Bible and the Book of Pook

they will have moments of anxiety and anger, perhaps throwing a tantrum

my ex did this, she was a BPD AW

 

[bigneil]

Gee Asteriskhole, I guess psychologist Theodor Reik who Robert Greene was quoting (page 390) was a mamma's boy.

I didn't say to deliberately make her angry. Anger is not violence, it's a basic emotion closely related to hate (the negative of love). If your woman never gets that angry she probably doesn't care that much.

Example:

"Come see me tonight..."
Me: "I'm busy."
"Pleeeaaasseee, you can finally meet my best friend." (waitressing)
Me: "Your friend with braces?"
"Yes."
Me: "When are YOU going to get braces? And who cares if you don't need them?"
"What?"
"Braces? What?"
"Are you trying to be disrespectful as hell???"
"F*CK YOU about the braces! I'm never getting f*cking braces and you can go f*ck her if you want them! Maybe you'll run into her. That is the rudest, meanest, most disrespectful thing any man has ever said to me! And I wanted you to meet her not f*ck her! Just forget it then. I'm done trying."
Me: "You're beautiful when you're angry."
"I just wish you'd come..."

NOTE: In 1 year and 6000 words she had never once texted the F word before, then it was 4 times in one paragraph.

Am I just a sadist or was that funny?

 

[JohnChops]

Neil what's wrong with you lately ?

 

[ScottMustaine]

Gee Asteriskhole, I guess psychologist Theodor Reik who Robert Greene was quoting (page 390) was a mamma's boy.

I didn't say to deliberately make her angry. Anger is not violence, it's a basic emotion closely related to hate (the negative of love). If your woman never gets that angry she probably doesn't care that much.

Example:

"Come see me tonight..."
Me: "I'm busy."
"Pleeeaaasseee, you can finally meet my best friend." (waitressing)
Me: "Your friend with braces?"
"Yes."
Me: "When are YOU going to get braces? And who cares if you don't need them?"
"What?"
"Braces? What?"
"Are you trying to be disrespectful as hell???"
"F*CK YOU about the braces! I'm never getting f*cking braces and you can go f*ck her if you want them! Maybe you'll run into her. That is the rudest, meanest, most disrespectful thing any man has ever said to me! And I wanted you to meet her not f*ck her! Just forget it then. I'm done trying."
Me: "You're beautiful when you're angry."
"I just wish you'd come..."

NOTE: In 1 year and 6000 words she had never once texted the F word before, then it was 4 times in one paragraph.

Am I just a sadist or was that funny?

Sadist.

Anyway, every single psychologist I met was a nutjob. Complete.

My BPD ex's mother was all nice and cool woman, but would go crazy if she couldn't tie a shoe and would take it and throw it out of window and scream at everyone.

My friends mom is also a psychologist, she kicked her daughter out of home for 2 months because her average grade score was 4.5/5, and she wanted to be 5/5. After 2 months she came to her daughter and asked her " Will you stop being such an evil person and come back to your mother who you ran away?"

When she bought her mom a present her mother told her " You could've tried a bit harder, and you're not first to give me first present. "


I had a male a psychologist in school who would often call guys from hall to talk to him in office and offer them candy and orange juice and ask them how are they doing. Yes, I ended in that office. No, I didn't get abused but I felt I'm near a pedofaggot.

 

[seethehoop]

What I think Neil is describing is passion. If you are in a relationship without is arguments then you find that the passion dies.

I think that you should be able to trigger all a womens emotional states. This leads to a vary passionate relationship that will last and give you many different emotional states in return.

 

[Asterisk]

Every war in history started directly because of someone's anger
Prove me wrong!
"Anger leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side." -Yoda
Prove me wrong!
"A house divided against itself cannot stand" -Abraham Lincoln
Again, prove me wrong!

sa·dist
  [sey-dist, sad-ist]
noun
1.
Psychiatry . a person who has the condition of sadism, in which one receives sexual gratification from causing pain and degradation to another.
2.
a person who enjoys being cruel.

And you call me an a$$hole.....:crackup:

 

[bigneil]

Neil what's wrong with you lately ?

I don't know, maybe I still have a sense of humor? Why don't you be less ambiguous?

Every war in history started directly because of someone's anger
Prove me wrong!

Wow - that is just sad. Asterisk doesn't have a clue how the Central Bank works, does he? Asterisk, in 1913 the Federal Reserve (neither Federal (i.e. privately owned) nor holding any Reserve (ie. gold to back the paper Dollar)) took over. They have a monopoly on the Dollar. They can legally counterfeit and buy things like buildings, countries, armies, the media, and Presidents. They bought Harvard and Yale and the Medical industry first (under Rockefeller Institute), went Allopathic (chemical) only, got us into World War 1, made Hemp illegal so we wouldn't have hemp fuel stations, caused the Great Depression and collapse of Weimar Republic, the rise of Hitler, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, were behind Gold Confiscation, The New Deal, Social Security, Pearl Harbor, Nukes, The Cold War, The Gulf of Tonkin (Vietnam), Stagflation in the '70's, the PetroDollar, Operation Desert Storm, Oklahoma City, 9/11, the War on Terror, the NDAA and the TSA. It about total Global Governance. They want you body scanned, vaccinated and fed excusively GMO food until you die, and you better believe I'm angry about it. But you want to say anger is the problem.

On the contrary, Anger is the primary filter of Drivers (one of four Personality Types). The classic Driver is Captain Kirk. Unlike Spock (an Analyst) or Uhora (a Feeler), Kirk boils things down to Right and Wrong and he gets animated or even angry when things are Wrong. Anger is healthy for Drivers. They blow through it quickly and feel no stress, resentment and harbor few bad feelings.

 

[JohnChops]

I don't know, maybe I still have a sense of humor? Why don't you be less ambiguous?

Creating tantrums and starting random sh1t with a woman is what women do to each other lol. ITs called "drama". Always gotta look at both sides brotha, honestly I can only see one side to your post however, and thats acting like a woman towards a woman to produce woman drama. Thats what im coming up with

 

[bigneil]

I didn't say CREATING. I said TRIGGERING. Big difference. From my OP:

It's best when her tantrums are triggered by subtle, humorous comments that you make while sincerely not attempting to anger her.

Sorry you've never had a woman with high interest, but women with high interest throw tantrums regularly. If she didn't care if I f*cked her friend, that would be a problem (though she does want a 3-way, I can't go all the way "or it would jeapordize us"). Hate is the negative of love. Apathy (not caring) is the opposite. Seriously, the more I demonstrate the keys to the success I've had, the more it falls on deaf ears here.

In case you guys really think asking a girl to get braces is "acting like a woman" or "sadist", I asked another beautiful 21 year old girl via text yesterday. Here was our conversation:

Her: "When do you want to get together?"
Me: "Will you braid your hair and wear braces?"
Her: "LOL! What?"
Me: "I have a thing about braces."
Her: "Sorry, my teeth are straight."
Her: "When do you want to get together?"

I also texted a hot photo (or herself) I took last week to the girl who got mad and wrote "With legs like yours, it doesn't matter if you're missing a few teeth." (For those who take everything literally, she is not really missing teeth, that was a joke, and surprisingly, she got it).

EDIT after next 2 comments: It's sad that so many of you spew opinions (mainly opinions about me or my particular women and not the subject) and so few of you have any references such as:

How to Handle Women’s Temper Tantrums

Women use Temper Tantrums to target your GUILT. She uses emotional explosions to encourage you to REGRET something you did.

The message she sends is, "You better do what I want, or you’ll be sorry!"

And how to do you react? "Oh no! She’s angry at me. I may lose her. Better apologize immediately!"

After all, it's unacceptable to go around making people angry, isn't it?

But you know what?

You DIDN'T make her angry.

Whoops! Now we’re heading down an eerie path.

How do you identify Temper Tantrums?

These are generally easy to see. I think most of us have seen them. They’re any angry or pouty outburst by a woman. And generally, any form of emotional stirred disapproval directed AT YOU.

A lot of guys buckle to a woman’s Temper Tantrums. They think they have displeased a woman and now have make things right.

But nothing could be farther from the truth!

She wants you to be in her DEBT... or her perceived debt. That way, you feel like you owe her something. Again, you’re being controlled by her manipulation.

The solution? If a woman gets angry at you, LET HER!

Treat the situation the same as you would a fly buzzing around your head... mildly annoying, but nothing to lose your cool over.

The key to handling women’s Temper Tantrums is in dealing with women’s disapproval.
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SOURCE: http://www.sosuave.com/articles/jj/mysteries.htm

PS - And yes "emotional explosions" happen when there is high interest - and by regular I mean once a month or so, not every day.

Zekko can't handle ONE MINUTE of drama in his life? She was over it instantly, and have you ever heard of makeup sex?

 

[zekko]

Sorry you've never had a woman with high interest, but women with high interest throw tantrums regularly. If she didn't care if I f*cked her friend, that would be a problem (though she does want a 3-way, I can't go all the way "or it would jeapordize us").

Bigneil, you have got to start going out with a better quality of girl. That or stop fvcking her friends. High interest women throw regular tantrums? That is absurd. I've found high interest women go out of their way to be on their best behavior. Of course I'm not intentionally provoking them either. I don't need, seek, or desire this type of drama in my life.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Bigneil, you have got to start going out with a better quality of girl. That or stop fvcking her friends. High interest women throw regular tantrums? That is absurd. I've found high interest women go out of their way to be on their best behavior. Of course I'm not intentionally provoking them either. I don't need, seek, or desire this type of drama in my life.

Are people still trying to reach this guy? I thought it was universally agreed that he was a lost cause.

 

[bigneil]

You guys honestly make the stripper seem scientific in her reasoning.

From AskMen.com:

Her tantrums

Every woman screams and yells occasionally, but a tantrum is different than your average female freak-out. A woman throwing a tantrum is entirely unreasonable and almost completely inconsolable (unless you defuse her, see OP), which is why we’ve classified it as part of her little-girl routine. She'll go nuclear over the smallest things (which SS members will still blame on bigneil) and she'll appear to have no control over her emotions (even though strippers normally are non-emotional). She might even say hurtful things or tell you she hates you (i.e. loves you). Tantrums have one purpose: To make your life a living hell until you give her what she wants (in this case a 3-way).

Deal with her little-girl routine: Women, like children, use tantrums to get their way; therefore, the worst possible response is to cave in (the point of the OP). You might think it's easier to give in (as most SS members recommended) than to put up with her screaming, but if you show her that screaming gets her what she wants, she'll just scream more often. Ignore tantrums at all costs (see OP)."

Read more: http://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith_200/246_dating_advice.html#ixzz29CTMioMT

 

[yyyy1313]

My ex use to have tantrums on occasion. I would ignore it and usually because I was kind of turned on by her aggressive behavior would usually have sex with her. It got to the point that she wouldn't even do them since she knew it would fall on deaf ears.