Trap Of The Nightclub!

[Kalel21]

Hey everyone,
I have been away from here for a whilw now because I have been pretty busy. However I am back and ready for action.

OK lately I have been noticing a phenomenon and I have been wondering if this actually holds water.

For the past 2 years my mate and i have been hitting the clubs and partying all night looking for girls. Well I have noticed that I rearly get or make any sucess in a nightclub only unless I am accomodating a girl to a nightclub. Same with my friend, although in the past 2 months my friend has gotten alot more numbers than I have. He has also slept with a few more girls than I have. However I can put that down to 1 thing.

*He is more physically attractive than I am. i.e he is muscular, and better looking than I am. Whereas I am skinny and tall.

I am not sure about how much game he acually has compared to me.

Is the nightclub the best place to meet women? SERIOUSLY.

I mean it seems like its a good place to find a one night stand (if the chick is alittle tipsy off alcohol). But its not the ideal place to meet a potential decent girlfriend. It also decent seem to have a good sucess rate compared to networking through friends or people you just met or even doing a cold call on the street or in the mall.

whats your opinion?

 

[Jay Jay]

Don't like nightclubs

I agree completely that they are one of the worst places to meet women.

1. its so loud you can't impress with your wit.

2. the lights make every chick look hot (or maybe thats just the stuff I'm on...)

3. all the shmucks have their dutch courage up and getting in the way.

4. chicks get in this weird state of empowerment when they are out where they like to shoot down guys as an ego trip.

5. am I just getting old but does dance music suck?

6. beer, smokes, taxis, tickets etc make it an expensive night when you can meet babes walking down the corner shop for a carton of milk.

7. when it does go well you wake up with a hangover, an empty wallet and the honey you went home with last night replaced by a horrible monster who you feel compelled to buy breakfast...

Yeah... I don't nightclubs...

 

[Kalel21]

Glad we are on the same page JAy Jay.

It seems as if the nightclub is a good place if you visually look good. But if you have game its kryptonite.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I agree completely that they are one of the worst places to meet women.

There's some truth to what you guys are saying but here's some things to consider:

1. its so loud you can't impress with your wit.

This is why it's important that can impress a woman on the dancefloor while incorporating nonverbal communication (that's KINO for you guys that are slow).

2. the lights make every chick look hot (or maybe thats just the stuff I'm on...)

This is why you use take the woman away from the din of the club. This is when you can get her away from friends also to be able to talk to her.

3. all the shmucks have their dutch courage up and getting in the way.

Very true. These shmucks can make you look even better in comparison (as long as you're not one of them).

4. chicks get in this weird state of empowerment when they are out where they like to shoot down guys as an ego trip.

Perhaps, perfect opportunities to practice neg-hits wouldn't you think?

5. am I just getting old but does dance music suck?

Pop, music sucks... Stick to real dance music. Besides, age isn't anything but an attitude.

6. beer, smokes, taxis, tickets etc make it an expensive night when you can meet babes walking down the corner shop for a carton of milk.

Perhaps. I can still pay for parking, get into a club and have a couple of mixed drinks for $20USD. Not bad for 3-4 hours of entertainment.

7. when it does go well you wake up with a hangover, an empty wallet and the honey you went home with last night replaced by a horrible monster who you feel compelled to buy breakfast...

Stick to only a couple of drinks you won't have a hangover, you'll have money in your wallet and you'll be sober enough not to go home with Cujo.

Yeah... I don't nightclubs...

Your choice...

 

[Cod3r]

Perhaps. I can still pay for parking, get into a club and have a couple of mixed drinks for $20USD. Not bad for 3-4 hours of entertainment.

Where the hell are you partying ??


Typical Night NYC (without club connects)


1. Parking -- $6.50 per half-hour (x3 hrs) = 39$

2. Entrance (even with guestlist) 15$ @ cheapest clubs, after 12 00--> 25$ minimum, 40$ maximum

3. Coat Check --> 5$ per item

4. Drinks --> $8 00 for a corona / $10-12 for anytype of liquor / $15+ top shelf

Total = Low End (60$) / Average (90$) / High End (120$)


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I mean it seems like its a good place to find a one night stand (if the chick is alittle tipsy off alcohol). But its not the ideal place to meet a potential decent girlfriend. It also decent seem to have a good sucess rate compared to networking through friends or people you just met or even doing a cold call on the street or in the mall.

I stand as the exception, I'm in a wonderful 9 month relationship and me and my lady met in a club on the loudest floor. Maybe I was just lucky or its fate. Also met a few dating buddies out of clubs and multiple drunk hookups, clubs are fun in my experience, can't beat it....

*He is more physically attractive than I am. i.e he is muscular, and better looking than I am. Whereas I am skinny and tall.

If you're not physically attractive than pretty much forget about clubs. Girls are on a power-trip and you can get shot down from HB5's even if you're a pretty hot guy, I've gone from hooking up with the hottest girl at club to getting rejected by some fat UG dancing in the corner... its hit or miss...

Generally tho, if you have good looks and can dance and have some club 'competence' (how to move around, how to proof urself) you can easily have success, if you're at all socially awkward its going to be ur worst nightmare...


-Cod3r

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Where the hell are you partying ??

If things here in Minneapolis cost that much I'd need to take out a second mortgage. But if I lived in Manhattan I'd be making 250k a year, right?

Here's my night out:

Self parking in a city owned lot a block from the club: $5
Entry to a club before 11pm w/VIP membership: $5
Two mixed drinks from a waitress I flirt with: $10
Coat check (I forgot about that one): $5

Alright, I'm in for $25.

 

[realsmoothie]

FIVE DOLLAR COAT CHECK?

Wow. Where I live if I pay $2 for a coat check I'm like "WTF this is bullsh*t".

And your drinks are only $5?

 

[Cod3r]

Wow. Where I live if I pay $2 for a coat check I'm like "WTF this is bullsh*t".

THat's hilarious... that's the exact quote I used a few weeks ago...


-Cod3r

 

[MisterNigma]

It's Insane

I hate going out to the city, from a financial standpoint. There have been a few nights where I spent 200+ on drinks. (just for myself, when I do drink, I drink ALOT)

I love visiting less expensive places. Minneapolis here I come

In my experience, so far the most expensive place to party I've been was Moscow, NYC is up there, but not nearly as bad.


-E.Nigma

 

[PRMoon]

I transfered from the spa manager to the concierge of the skylofts recently. And I'm still promoting so I get in for free everywhere. I'm more hooked up then anybody on this site, period.

I'll do a run down of my list so you guys can see how an industry man handles a nighclub.

Parking, free (all casinos have free parking)
VIP entry; Free after I drop a card at the door.
Coat check; Free after i drop a card at the coat check desk
Table service with two bottles of Grey Goose; COMPED per the VIP host, I round up a tip from the people at my table so that's covered too.

Total cost to me 0. Well actually, concidering I probably packed the club with girls I met at either one of my jobs, I actually got paid to be there in the first place.

 

[Derek Flint]

Dance clubs are a waste of time and are expensive.

The "Lounge" type places are far better.

 

[Kalel21]

So i guess there is hope in clubs, but is it the best place to meet women? or even decent women??????

 

[PRMoon]

So i guess there is hope in clubs, but is it the best place to meet women? or even decent women??????

Absolutely not. Don't get me wrong, with my advantages I get laid alot coming out of nighclubs, but these girls are pretty much wh*res. Finding a decent woman in there is a craps shoot at best.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

FIVE DOLLAR COAT CHECK?

Wow. Where I live if I pay $2 for a coat check I'm like "WTF this is bullsh*t".

And your drinks are only $5?

You guys don't tip the coat check girls to put your coat up front? I bet you guys got a lot to learn about working the club staff.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

So i guess there is hope in clubs, but is it the best place to meet women? or even decent women??????

Clubs work if you are outgoing and know how to dance, it's a social proving ground. It's a great place to work on your skills and to actually watch other guys do which is completly wrong.

 

[Thomas94305]

I don't take any venue or any woman for that matter too seriously.

With that said, I do think clubs suck if you are looking to go in, and walk away with some digits. Then again, if your measure of success is how many numbers you got, Church "sucks" too. Try going there, being totally innocent and charming, and see what happens? A coffee shop sucks, if you expect to walk out with digits. A park sucks... school sucks... see where I'm going with this?

Others have already posted about clubs being too loud to talk, etc. I've posted before about drawbacks of clubs. With that in mind, I see them as good for one thing.. PRACTICE. I'm not there first to get the girl. I'm there to improve skills. I mean, it's a venue where women go all dressed up to get male attention, but have their shields way up, and resist that very attention. That's curious.

When I do go to a club, I let go of expectations, I let go of the outcome. I'm there to practice skills in a harsh environment; distractions, c*ck blockers, beefy guys (I'm above average, in good shape, but I don't think I'm a hunk). I don't take "them", women, seriously. I take my skills seriously. Then, when I'm at a coffee shop, or at church, it's easier saying hi, rolling with the vibe, etc.

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a jedi by any sorts. I got a number last night at a coffee shop. I got one at a salsa club about a week ago, she's responding. I'm building out my social circle. What was said earlier about wanting to meet a quality woman and doubting if a club is the right place for that, does ring loudly to me. I'm looking for a relationship with a cool gal... Just one of you telling where I see this fitting in.

PS: About the costs of clubs.. I go to places in San Francisco. I've left home with $20 in my pocket, and came back with change. Sometimes I have fun, sometimes I don't. It has little to do with the club, it has more to do with my mindset that eve. Think seriously about going to upscale VIP clubs that cost $$$$$. Women there will have certain expectations. A true DJ perhaps can get past those expectations, but would he want to? Recommend thinking about the type of woman you want to be around, then go to places where she might be.

 

[Derek Flint]

I don't take any venue or any woman for that matter too seriously.

With that said, I do think clubs suck if you are looking to go in, and walk away with some digits. Then again, if your measure of success is how many numbers you got, Church "sucks" too. Try going there, being totally innocent and charming, and see what happens? A coffee shop sucks, if you expect to walk out with digits. A park sucks... school sucks... see where I'm going with this?

Others have already posted about clubs being too loud to talk, etc. I've posted before about drawbacks of clubs. With that in mind, I see them as good for one thing.. PRACTICE. I'm not there first to get the girl. I'm there to improve skills. I mean, it's a venue where women go all dressed up to get male attention, but have their shields way up, and resist that very attention. That's curious.

When I do go to a club, I let go of expectations, I let go of the outcome. I'm there to practice skills in a harsh environment; distractions, c*ck blockers, beefy guys (I'm above average, in good shape, but I don't think I'm a hunk). I don't take "them", women, seriously. I take my skills seriously. Then, when I'm at a coffee shop, or at church, it's easier saying hi, rolling with the vibe, etc.

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a jedi by any sorts. I got a number last night at a coffee shop. I got one at a salsa club about a week ago, she's responding. I'm building out my social circle. What was said earlier about wanting to meet a quality woman and doubting if a club is the right place for that, does ring loudly to me. I'm looking for a relationship with a cool gal... Just one of you telling where I see this fitting in.

PS: About the costs of clubs.. I go to places in San Francisco. I've left home with $20 in my pocket, and came back with change. Sometimes I have fun, sometimes I don't. It has little to do with the club, it has more to do with my mindset that eve. Think seriously about going to upscale VIP clubs that cost $$$$$. Women there will have certain expectations. A true DJ perhaps can get past those expectations, but would he want to? Recommend thinking about the type of woman you want to be around, then go to places where she might be.

I too go to places in SF - mainly The Marina aka The Triangle.
Not dance clubs, but "Lounge" type bars. Free to get in, not loud, and plenty of hot, friendly women.
Ever spend any time around there? If not, you should check it out.

 

[napoleon]

Wow, in Croatia.
My costs:
I dont drive- free student pass for "subway", and if I did drive- 1 hour 1-2 dollars
entrance-4 dollars
coat- 50 cents
0.5l beer- 3 dollars, stronger liquor- 4 bucks
So usually I go out with 10 bucks, and if I wanna get wasted- 15

Come to Croatia, we have the most beautiful girls (a little stuck up but no matter) and you can party for a month with the money you spend on 1 evening.

 

[Babnik]

Where the hell are you partying ??


Typical Night NYC (without club connects)


1. Parking -- $6.50 per half-hour (x3 hrs) = 39$

2. Entrance (even with guestlist) 15$ @ cheapest clubs, after 12 00--> 25$ minimum, 40$ maximum

3. Coat Check --> 5$ per item

4. Drinks --> $8 00 for a corona / $10-12 for anytype of liquor / $15+ top shelf

Total = Low End (60$) / Average (90$) / High End (120$)


--


I stand as the exception, I'm in a wonderful 9 month relationship and me and my lady met in a club on the loudest floor. Maybe I was just lucky or its fate. Also met a few dating buddies out of clubs and multiple drunk hookups, clubs are fun in my experience, can't beat it....



If you're not physically attractive than pretty much forget about clubs. Girls are on a power-trip and you can get shot down from HB5's even if you're a pretty hot guy, I've gone from hooking up with the hottest girl at club to getting rejected by some fat UG dancing in the corner... its hit or miss...

Generally tho, if you have good looks and can dance and have some club 'competence' (how to move around, how to proof urself) you can easily have success, if you're at all socially awkward its going to be ur worst nightmare...


-Cod3r

Wonderful relationship? You said you are a habitual cheater...

 

[Cod3r]

Wonderful relationship? You said you are a habitual cheater...

WAS, this is the only girl whom i've not cheated on


-Cod3r