Transitioning into sex-talk..

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When you have isolated a target and try to make the whole thing more sexual, how do you transition from "normal" talk into sexual conversation? You should ofcourse have started kino'ing her from the start, but I'm interested in how you make the convo sexual (Provided that you already haven't done that and don't use GM-style).

I sometimes feel like it's too obvious what I'm trying to do when I don't "root" the sexual innuendos to anything we have talked about. It feels unnatural to just talk about it out of the blue. I mean, I have no problems talking about sex. I'm good at it and makes the girls comfortable talking about it with me. But I haven't found any REALLY smooth transitions that makes sense. Convo should flow naturally.

I tried doing the C vs. U shaped smiles-routine, and whatever she had, I would claim that the people with that smile give the worst blow-jobs. They will most of the time qualify themselves, but on occasions they just drop the subject all together and move on to other topics. IOD I suppose... Anyone use anything along these lines?

I normally just excellerate kino and use one of my kiss-closing ways. Then I tell her I don't think she's freaky enough for me or naughty enough or something along those lines. When they object (Which they always do), I ask them what the craziest thing they have done sexually followed by their favorite positions etc. This works to a point, but then it kinda comes to an halt and the tension gradually fades away because I'm unable to escalate further...problem! What do you guys do to make her want to crab your **** and take you home?? I almost always fails with LMR, even though I use freezeouts and take-aways.

Any insights?

 

[SevenOne9]

20 questions works for me -- comfort first though before building up to the sex questions (the other person cannot ask the same question as a rule and anything goes).

Once it hits question either 11 or 13 -- i 'transition' in.

Its possible for them not to know anything about you IF you play it right.

I've done freezeouts, but most of the time they don't work (for me at least) -- I've never done takeaways... key is to talk to them about their fantasies, etc. what would they do and making their inner slut come out and make it feel natural.

(been a long time since i posted...pretty busy w/work and trying to get this woman at work to quit buggin' me).

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Ever think about just stimulating several of her senses? You'd be surprised at what a woman will bring up on her own after you've made her feel as if she's known you for a lifetime.

 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Ever think about just stimulating several of her senses? You'd be surprised at what a woman will bring up on her own after you've made her feel as if she's known you for a lifetime.

Can you be a little bit more specific please?

SevenOne9: Never tried the questions game. I'll read up on it. Thx

 

[SevenOne9]

Yeah, i got what Francisco said -- its once you get into her head and stimulate it... story telling **** (ie. talkin' about rollercoasters -- having her describe the 'feeling' and asking questions).

I tried the rollercoaster thing on this chick i turned in a fb ('former' now since she's friggin' crazy and i want nothin' to do w/her) -- and it worked.

I got her to my room, shoved her on my bed and we made out for probably 45min -- this chick wanted to swallow me whole man (she did in more ways than one)...badda-bing-bada-boom-badda..BANG!

 

[johnmich]

yes kokology is good to find out about them.

 

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Originally posted by SevenOne9
Yeah, i got what Francisco said -- its once you get into her head and stimulate it... story telling **** (ie. talkin' about rollercoasters -- having her describe the 'feeling' and asking questions).

I tried the rollercoaster thing on this chick i turned in a fb ('former' now since she's friggin' crazy and i want nothin' to do w/her) -- and it worked.

I got her to my room, shoved her on my bed and we made out for probably 45min -- this chick wanted to swallow me whole man (she did in more ways than one)...badda-bing-bada-boom-badda..BANG!

If you guys are talking about patterning, I have a real problem with that stuff. I've tried it but it feels really awkward. It's not congruent with my style. I feel like a damn poet trying to hypnotize her or some ****. It's not my thing. I'm better at dirtytalk and sexual innuendos I just have a problem getting there without talking about it prematurely. If you get what I'm saying.. And no ejaculation-jokes please

 

[SevenOne9]

Where do you end up isolating them?

 

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Originally posted by SevenOne9
Where do you end up isolating them?

Depends on where I am. If I'm in a bar I try to get them to another couch, another bar, outside for some fresh air or anywhere that makes us more "alone". I intentionally take them somewhere their friends can't see them. I've learned that this deminishes ASD with the girls.

If I'm at a party, I try to do the same, but preferably to another room. Isolation is isolation! Get them on my own and try to escalate.

Why?

 

[SevenOne9]

Locale can sometimes play a part -- that's all i'm sayin'.

You're right, isolation is isolation.

EDIT:
Let see, what else have i done to transition to sex talk...

Statements like, "You are soo frustrated" (w/a smirk)... Once you've established some innuendo and she starts pulling crap on her own -- works. They go, "Whaaaa...?" and get close to you to try to whisper crap.

Tried that 'line' so many times and it works pretty damn good.

Talkin' about pets for some reason can help too.

I'm sharing and other people should at least share a couple.

 

[Soprano]

wait for her to say "sucked" "blowed" "oh ****" etc.

"HEY SPEAKING OF *******S....."

 

[DJDanny]

Theres like a ****load of different ways and it depends on the situation.

You can misinterpret something innocent they said as something dirty and suddenly its them who brought up the sex talk.

Theres various games like the aformentioned 20 questions and "I've never...."

Theres some chicks who will just bring it up on their own if they're attracted to you.

After she tells a story which gets little wild you can bust her for being a party/dirty girl which will almost always lead right there.

If they're fidgeting with their hands alot you can call them out for being sexually frustrated. Saw this chick bust this on one of my friends tonight. was rather entertaining.

If you're looking for the magic cure all for opening into sex talk you've got a long way to go because there is no guarenteed one way to get there.

 

[Tomatoes]

I will normally talk about phsyical activity and take it from there. Getting sweaty. Getting hot. Out of breath....All can be used to link.

 

[ScrewIt]

i remember once me and this girl browsed through stuff at Old Navy. They had a section with collars and plastic dog bones.

at the time sex wasnt on my mind...so..

i suggested putting a leash around her so i can keep an eye on her. and if she was good i'd give her the bone. "heey doggy, you want this bone dont you?..yes you do! yes you do!"

she asked me "what are you suggesting?"
we were both playful about it...keep it simple.

I suppose in a sense a good way of transitioning is what i call "role-playing", you create the fictional situation and you label a character for the both of you, and you go from there.

i dont believe straight forward talking about sex ever works, imo, the best way is an indirect approach.

 

[biker_gixxer]

"When you have isolated a target and try to make the whole thing more sexual, how do you transition from "normal" talk into sexual conversation?"

I never try to change the conversation into something sexual because it puts the girl on the defensive, even if the girl is a little more, let's say....'free spirited'.

If it's a girl that you've been messing with for a while and have already banged a few times, then taking the conversation to a sexual level can be lots of fun, especially in a public place, but we'll leave THAT for another topic, lol.

You can make the interaction more sexual using body language. Eye contact, kino...a girl will get extremely turned on using this method. I wouldn't use the line about whether or not you think she gives good blow-job lol.

 

[Nighthawk]

Talk about movie you've seen/might see starring a 'hot' actor. Ask if she thinks he's sexy. Who else does she like? What does she find attractive about them?

Making her think about men with higher status will hopefully lower her perceived self-status as she begins to be fantasize about being taken by her dream guy.

Or show her some 'interesting' porn. I have some erotic comic-books and the ladies love them.

"I overheard some guy in the bathroom telling his friend his **** was only 3 inches long when erect! I'd keep that to myself!" Talk about the importance of penis size, intimating you have a good one and know how to use it.

Personally I don't generally use sex talk to get a woman in the mood. I use body-language, eye-contact, confidence and nonchalance. I will eroticise the situation by using c&f to get punched, then punch or tickle back, or by being playfully strict and dominant - 'don't be cheeky or you'll get get punished', etc

 

[Vampire]

I usually set it up in the way that brings it out of the girl. Once you sort of "get her" (establish your value, get some IOIs, whatever), you can start joking about stuff you could do together. I think Mystery calls this "conspiring" or something (I don't really use the jargon much so forgive me).

I usually joke around about her being a future ex-wife, or if she's studying to have a good job, I can be a deadbeat trophy husband ("Oh my god... your dream is to be a doctor? What a coincidence, my dream was always to marry rich. Talk about fate. Hold on... I TOTALLY gotta call my mom and tell her I've met "the one." Etc etc...")

Once you establish these fantasy relationships you can start joking about gender roles, and what your ideal partner should do (all innuendo of course). She'll eventually bring sex to the forefront of the convo, and you can pounce on her for that. Case closed.

 

[The_Lifter]

After I've kicked some rapport with her I wait for her to raise something that I can misinterpret and I just go from there. I get her to raise the issue and I extract what I want to know.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by SevenOne9
Yeah, i got what Francisco said -- its once you get into her head and stimulate it... story telling **** (ie. talkin' about rollercoasters -- having her describe the 'feeling' and asking questions).

You've got the idea however I gave up running patterns after I first tried it in the field (long story). Anyway, just through conversation I've had women ask me things like "Do you talk while having sex" to telling me how certain nationalities of men are hung like her pinkie finger! Needless to say, I was caught a bit off guard because I wasn't talking about sex in either conversation however I was definitely tickling their other senses. I'm telling you guys, the art of conversation can be a magical thing.

 

[Supreme1]

another good way is just to ask her "What's the craziest thing you've ever done?"

Most girls who i've asked this question answer with something sexual they have done... then you just take it from there.