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[DonJuanjr]

It's over for MatureDJcels

You win Sosuave for the day.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Same guitar, play whatever songs you like because you appreciate the way that specific guitar responds.

This metaphor doesn't make sense. You stated:

A happily married woman married to her first sexual partner for say 50 years? Again lots of experience. One partner.

The topic was experience with few partners. Not appreciation for partners.

In my metaphor, the guitar is sex, and albums are partners. I guess songs could be sex positions...

Solipsism is essentially looking out for the self above all other concerns.

Look at the definition of the word.

That's not solipsism. Here's the definition:

Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one's mind is sure to exist. As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.


I believe this is absolutely only expressed in females. You can't know whether something is true or not, unless you've experienced it yourself.

My fwb even admitted to this indirectly. I was talking about some red pill ideas to her(without her knowing it's red pill),
she stated: "my logical brain wants to say that's right, but I can't relate to it, because I haven't experienced it." That's solipsism.

 

[BeExcellent]

This metaphor doesn't make sense. You stated:

The topic was experience with few partners. Not appreciation for partners.

In my metaphor, the guitar is sex, and albums are partners. I guess songs could be sex positions...



That's not solipsism. Here's the definition:

Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one's mind is sure to exist. As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside the mind.


I believe this is absolutely only expressed in females. You can't know whether something is true or not, unless you've experienced it yourself.

My fwb even admitted to this indirectly. I was talking about some red pill ideas to her(without her knowing it's red pill),
she stated: "my logical brain wants to say that's right, but I can't relate to it, because I haven't experienced it." That's solipsism.

Um. Im absolutely certain that things exist outside my own mind. I am not solipsistic.

In my example the guitar is the partner. You can make all kinds of wonderful music utilizing the same familiar guitar. Just as you can have all kinds of various sexual experiences with the same partner.

There is nothing incongruent in my metaphor and this is why you can have an extremely fulfilling sex life with the same partner.

Now. If you cannot wrap your brain around that it is because you are limited in your own perspective and cannot fathom something outside your own range of experience.

I on the other hand consistently relate perspectives outside my own range of experience because I know the experiences of others outside my own mind and outside my own experience to be objectively true.

Logic much?

 

[DonJuanjr]

In my example the guitar is the partner. You can make all kinds of wonderful music utilizing the same familiar guitar. Just as you can have all kinds of various sexual experiences with the same partner.

Okay, using your analogy... If a person plays all kinds of guitars, they have more experience playing guitars than the person who only plays the one. Like a guy who's played an acoustic, electric, a lap steel guitar and banjo. That guitar player is more experienced. Sure the person who only plays the one guitar may appreciate it more, but that doesn't mean they're more experienced at playing guitars in general.

There is nothing incongruent in my metaphor and this is why you can have an extremely fulfilling sex life with the same partner.

Again, appreciation and fulfillment doesn't equal experience. Funny how you chose a man who's had a lot of females in his past. Not a guy with a very low notch count. Most women want experienced partners right...

Now. If you cannot wrap your brain around that it is because you are limited in your own perspective and cannot fathom something outside your own range of experience.

Nice try...

I on the other hand consistently relate perspectives outside my own range of experience because I know the experiences of others outside my own mind and outside my own experience to be objectively true.

So you say anyways....

 

[typical]

Interesting thread. Not much to add except to what's quoted which I disagree with.

There is a very wise saying I quite like and which I adhere to in my own relationships, and that is:

"You can have different experiences with the same person or you can have the same experience with different people."

Meaning promiscuous sex is what's BORING. The same experience with many different people. YAWN. When I speak with men who have "been there done that," they have expressed it leaves them feeling emotionally empty and ultimately unfulfilled.

In a good long term relationship, one can have many different experiences with the SAME person. It takes creativity, the ability to be open, the ability to step out of one's sexual comfort zone and the willingness to try new and different things with your partner. And of course the desire to remain attractive to your partner, physically fit and healthy.

That said, I suppose if your goal and desire is to simply experience different women (or men if that's your inclination) then OK I acknowledge your point, but most would agree that the goal is different sexual experiences and you CAN achieve that with the same person, in my opinion and experience.

Your choice.

Yea nah the number of kinky weird and wacky sex I had when I was 22-30 years old and kickboxing and bartending is much much higher than when I've been in a relationship (no matter how long or short). There's something primal about being able to screw 4 different women at the same time over a 4 day long weekend that nothing will ever compare too.

Also why are we advocating that young men should be getting into LTR's before they are 30/35 ? This is the best time to actually build your lifestyle and career prospects and fu(k around as much as possible. Can this forum please stop advocating being losers.

 

[Plinco]

May not have given him the same ego gratification and validation as being with many different women, but as far as the sex itself, he has admitted it was the best with me.

And our desire and passion lasted nearly the entire six years till the end which is too long a story to get into here or now.

It's possible that he could have been lying to you too.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Continue to see other women for now and maybe you will see the flaws of this women. Don't rush into a relationship with her

Exactly.
Don't toss everything overboard and cross the stream before you see the bridge over the river.

You need to vet her. Is she worthy of you; or just your d|ick as a yet another plate?
Remember the man is the prize, not the women because we sit on the resources and women (Especially with todays modern women), usually don't bring anything of tangible value to the table.

Beauty will fade faster than FB stock dropped today and at some point it will be gone.
- Women depreciate over the years in value.
- Men keep appreciate in value over the years.

 

[BeExcellent]

- Women depreciate over the years in value.
- Men keep appreciate in value over the years.

This is not always true. My ex husband is a stellar example of a man who has lost most of his value (got fat, went bald, let his teeth go, lost his business & status) and cannot garner high quality women any more. A pronounced fall from grace. Meanwhile my value has been stable/increased over the same time period.

If you look at the general population most people decline in SMV over time, both men and women. You fooling yourself to think otherwise. Look at people in the grocery store or driving around. Most are unattractive to marginally attractive. There are exceptions in both genders. Certainly we should strive to be the exception and of course this requires effort.

The problem too with this attitude is that this is how you lose a truly quality girl. If she knows her worth she is not going to tolerate plate status for any length of time. Your loss can easily be another man’s gain.

This is true for any high value person, man or woman.

OP has to determine whether she is worth cutting off his other options or losing her altogether. That ends up being the choice one must make when dating a quality person who is seeking a stable relationship.

Period.