Tom Brady's situation is concrete proof that dating for men is always a L

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I’d take my chances being an nfl/nba player gaming chicks than an average pua guy lol. They don’t really need to go out approaching girls because girls find them.
True. But also remember many are gold diggers. Even your 300lb NFL players get hot wives when they're big blocking tubs of lard that if they were not a pro player they'd only land a land whales.

We shouldn't be comparing sports players and celebs to us SS forum members. They're 1 percent of the population. Seriously no matter how hard you work on yourself you're not going to pickup women like a Tiger Woods or Auston Matthews or Albert Pujols now that he's single.

They live in another World than we do, associate with totally different people too. Both men and women.
 

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True. But also remember many are gold diggers. Even your 300lb NFL players get hot wives when they're big blocking tubs of lard that if they were not a pro player they'd only land a land whales.

We shouldn't be comparing sports players and celebs to us SS forum members. They're 1 percent of the population. Seriously no matter how hard you work on yourself you're not going to pickup women like a Tiger Woods or Auston Matthews or Albert Pujols now that he's single.

They live in another World than we do, associate with totally different people too. Both men and women.
This is true. Pujols underachieved in the 2000s by marrying a woman who was already a single mom. He married her before he got to the pros.
 

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Even when relationships exceed 5 years, as Tom Brady's did, women start to get bored in monogamy.
My friends are being to change their behaviour and let them wife's to have an occasional sex experience.
 

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Tom Brady did get roasted badly about taking an L with Gisele.

 

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Cannot believe how far from reality most posters are going with this and bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with anything regarding the issues.
Most posters are keyboard jockies with limited experience or have a idealized view of women and relationships which just isn't realistic. People have to remember Giselle Bunchen met Tom when Tom left Bridget Moynahan

stranded for her while she was prego!!!
I'm honestly shocked Giselle and Tom lasted that long
 

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Oh boy, where do I even start with this. For one, Tom Brady is by far one of my favorite athletes on the planet and what he has done in the NFL will never be rivaled by anyone else that comes along. Tom is by far the GOAT football player and even his situation with his wife is not that bad because apparently, she makes more money than he does!

However, as much as I love the work he has done on the field, I do think that Brady always gave off that simpish nice guy image. People don't realize it but he was a late bloomer. Even though he played football at Michigan, he was taken in the 6th round of the NFL draft and didn't grow into his looks until after winning a couple of Superbowls. Of course a guy like that happily wives up a supermodel. Even on the field and overall, he gave off too much of a clean guy sort of image. I think it had to do with the classy organization that the Patriots tried to make themselves out to be (despite Spy Gate and Deflate Gate lol).

I'll contrast him to someone like Cristiano Ronaldo who was also an ugly duckling before peaking at United but had his fair share of fun before getting married with a kid. The other one is obviously one of the game GOATs himself, Leonardo DiCaprio.

I get into it all the time with dudes on here who say "just work on yourself and it will come, no need to game". That is BS and some celebs are a testament to that. Just because you have money and status does not mean you will slay that much.

It is why, despite how much guys hate him, what Dan Bilzerian has done has been amazing.
Good point but if tom isnt alpha I dont know who is.
 

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The roast of Tom Brady on Netflix was a real eye opener, these celebrities worship this man and themselves like he's some kind of deity or something, the roast was cringe as hell
 

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The roast of Tom Brady on Netflix was a real eye opener, these celebrities worship this man and themselves like he's some kind of deity or something, the roast was cringe as hell
Guys that dominate the red pill consensus hate guys like Brady. Brady is indisputably the best there ever was at his position, he is a gazillionaire and is a commander of men and has a soft touch. Dudes can’t wrap their head around it because they are not remotely at that level
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Guys that dominate the red pill consensus hate guys like Brady. Brady is indisputably the best there ever was at his position, he is a gazillionaire and is a commander of men and has a soft touch. Dudes can’t wrap their head around it because they are not remotely at that level
Ah yes, your going to tell us about Brady's level from the comfort of some backwater forum and then posture you are somewhat on Brady's level to attain this understanding everybody else doesn't have.

I didn't hate on Brady by the way, I was hating on his roast and rightfully so, it's cringe celebrity worship
 

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Ah yes, your going to tell us about Brady's level from the comfort of some backwater forum and then posture you are somewhat on Brady's level to attain this understanding everybody else doesn't have.

I didn't hate on Brady by the way, I was hating on his roast and rightfully so, it's cringe celebrity worship
This clearly hit a nerve that I didn’t intend to hit. By all means if you want to point to 50 year aged married men on YouTube that beg viewers for algorithm clicks as examples of masculine achievement over Tom Brady please don’t ever get the impression I intended to dissuade you. Also if I ever get to the level of posts on this ‘backwater forum’ that you have achieved, promise to take me to Peter Lugers?
 
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99.99999999999% of men will never be able to about to what Tom Brady has accomplished and he can't even tame toxic femininity. This is guy is 6ft 4, a millionaire, Chad looking, white guy, a household name, Top NFL QB, and he still took a big L. Guys don't feel down when a girl starts bull shvtting because it's inevitable at this point.
I am by no means a top tier guy and I am not that negative in my outlook. If I sense that she is losing respect for me then I dump her. It's about taking charge of your life and living to your standards.
 

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so true about the roast but if this guys isnt alpha who is.Have you seen his ex before?
 

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he doesnt refer to himself as alpha.I dont consider myself one either but if he is not who is?
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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Let me explain it to you.


Beta and alpa really do exist. But its jargon, used to catogorize and yet simplify things. If you know you know, just like there's the nage waza in judo. If you dont know you won't care.

There's the beta man. The man who tries to please everyone and never feels good enough. He also never takes risks or action. Sometimes such a man is lucky, and he eases through life. Always dependent upon other people's initiatives. But God forbid he ever takes a dive in life! If he does fall back, he'll end up as a bumb. The modern beta might even take the incel route completely voluntary.

Then we have the alpha. The alpha takes charge and always demands the best from himself and other. He is unapologetic about who he is, thus he naturally tends to dominate especially beta men. The beta both fear and hate him. The beta somehow senses that the women he wants, actually wants the Alpha. The alpha takes risks, falls hard, gets back up and tries again until he's successful. The alpha knows that people don't wanna name him as such, but that doesn't matter because he doesn't need validation from other people.

Evert DJ should strive to be a monster alpha. Makes life so much easier..
 

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Alpha/ beta stuff is funny always to me. But there is truth in it. I have seen most traits so far of putting me in the alpha camp from what online says. Though I think it is only one part of me. How I live affects how I carry myself. My trials made me stronger and my experiences carved me into a better man. I use to be a boy who did not grow up even in college. So if anything, I think alpha is just another word for being as masculine as you can.
 

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No because someone can be mature in age but childish af. See "mature women."
 

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Nope. If you describe someone as mature, you think that they are fully developed and balanced in their personality and emotional behavior. They are emotionally mature and should behave responsibly.
Developed and balanced are not in commonality in that situation. There are plenty of mature people that have wild emotions. Mature just means stopping of growth. It has nothing to do with emotional control. Nor does saying balanced personality mean anything. Literally that statement doesn't mean anything.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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