To the Women on the Forum

[lookyoung]

To be 100% honest when I first seen these woman at sosuave I thought to myself these girls should be banned ASAP. But if you look at there posts they have more quality than many of the posters on here. After reading some of the threads and posts on the donjuan discussion, I think these brauds are actually good for sosuave.

 

[mrRuckus]

I actually disagree with this idea, pretty strongly.

If you understand women very well you quickly learn that women are HORRIBLE at giving romantic or relationship advice.

A lot of them say things like "Buy her flowers" or "Go apologize to her" or "Be nice" or "Just be yourself" or what not.

This is a prescription for how women WANT guys to act, precisely so that THEY (the women) can be SELECTIVE and CHOOSE which guys to sleep with...

I talk to several women about relationships. The ones I talk to will give good advice. Like "just ignore her and she'll come running back." None of the give flower crap or "call her and tell her how you feel." But actual good advice that they thought about based on thinking about how they react to what guys do. They'll even admit they hate when the guy does those things and how it controls them, but it works on them and they know it and know it affects other women too.

One of them, when asked why do you think so-and-so female did something or other, will say, "because girls are fvcking idiots" and another sent me an email that said "Well, it should be noted that all girls are totally nuts. I think it works in the favor of those affected more often than not. That's my input, for what it's worth."

 

[insanity]

if i notice they are a woman, then i skip reading what they posted. usually they make sure to let you know they are a girl posting too...... girl_in_a_boy_forum(attention). when i listened to girls advice in my afc days i never got a girlfriend or laid.

i think that a few guys don't like the women posters on here, because with all the new guys coming onto the forum, the last advice they need, is a woman telling them how to get women. thats why they are here in the first place because mommy told them how to get a woman and did they get a girlfriend or laid. f@ck no.

the guys who say that the women give good advice have no clue.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

You don't have to take their advice to learn from them. Scientist never listened to what rats had to say but they learned from them none the less.

THANK YOU!

I dont think I could have said it better!

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

After reading some of the threads and posts on the donjuan discussion, I think these brauds are actually good for sosuave.

THese girls are not good for sosuave, THEY ARE A NECCESSITY for sosuave!

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

if i notice they are a woman, then i skip reading what they posted. usually they make sure to let you know they are a girl posting too...... girl_in_a_boy_forum(attention). when i listened to girls advice in my afc days i never got a girlfriend or laid.

i think that a few guys don't like the women posters on here, because with all the new guys coming onto the forum, the last advice they need, is a woman telling them how to get women. thats why they are here in the first place because mommy told them how to get a woman and did they get a girlfriend or laid. f@ck no.

the guys who say that the women give good advice have no clue.

You have no clue. Your screen name fits you well.

Again, you are stereo typing the advice women give and making big broad generalizations.(say, didnt girl_in_a_boy_forum just point out that this is one of the weaknesses in alot of men on here? they think all women are all exactly alike). If you were reasonably intelligent, you would quickly learn that human being's behavior varies from person to person, so theres no way all women can all be exactly alike and all give the same lame advice. Women actually dont give the lame "buy her flowers" advice like you say. Most actually give good, true advice.

And when you listened to girls advice in your AFC days, you didnt get laid. But If an AFC were to listen alot of guys advice on this forum, he too would not get laid. There are plenty guys on here who read the DJ bible, and still dont get laid. 90% of guys on here dont know what they are talking about. This post of yours is good example of this.

 

[Latinoman]

well, all I know is this forum needs more of them (not the lesbian kind, the straight ones).

Alot of guys on here want to improve themselves with women. Knowing the woman's point of view on things will certainly help a man improve himself in this area. So therefore, having female posters are invaluable, becuase they are the experts on the female point of view, not men. Theyre the experts because they are women, they would know.

I say bring more of them in here, alot of guys on here need help bad, and are clueless as to understanding women. Asking another clueless guy for advice is no help, which I see alot going on in this forum.

When it comes to this issue...the best advice a woman can give a man is on

1- daughter issues
2- female body issues (although, some lie too)
3- pregnancy issues

But how to pick up a woman or even get a woman to feel attracted?

ONLY men that has been succesful in this path know what works and what doesn't work.

So, don't expect to have a woman rationalize something that comes naturally "irrational" to them.

 

[Latinoman]

Why does this stupid question keep popping up? Most of the women are here simply to observe how men think. They see here what they might not hear out in real life, cuz we keep it to locker room talk.

If they try to figure out how "M"en think...then they are in the WRONG section of the Forum.

The Mature Forum is the correct section to see how men think.

 

[Latinoman]

For the record...I don't care if women post or don't in this Forum.

 

[insanity]

godofgettinglaid read my post again dumazz. if a new guy comes in looking to get advice and he sees a woman poster. the first thing he's going to do is gravitate towards her advice and listen to her before anybody else because she is a woman,she must know what she's talking about. thats what gets alot of guys into trouble in the first place. but your the godofgettinglaid so listening to women must have some sort of benefit. maybe if i become single again, i'll have to get a females perspective of how to get and keep a woman. their advice has been tried, tested and failed.

go back to watching oprah.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...And yeah! I'll admit it SIZE MATTERS!

Heaven bless women who are confident enough to tell the truth.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Heaven bless women who are confident enough to tell the truth.

yeah, dumbasses like insanity and many guys on this forum beleive women arent capable of telling the truth like this. They beleive women are only capable of saying things like "buy her flowers".

Amost all women I have talked to on the subject of dating and what women really want have told the truth like that. Im baffled where the idea that all women give lame advice like "buy her flowers", "apologize" etc. came from.

 

[PeterNorthisawesome]

Hahaha! Any time I spend on the net certainly isn't "precious". I suppose it does seem weird, a woman reading a male-oriented forum...on another note, it really is interesting to see how some men out there think, what confuses them about women, and how their thought process differs from mine. But don't worry, this isn't a science experiment or anything like that.

Good you actually wasn't offended by my slight sarcasm, I guess that's fair that you want to know what the guy's thought process is. I'm pretty sure you can find a better forum since this is geared more towards men who're trying to find out what women are. I actually found out that most hot chicks offer solid advice cuz they have experiance and know what to look for in a real man, while the corrupted/unexperianced say stupid sh*t like men should clean and cook for girls everyday.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

godofgettinglaid read my post again dumazz. if a new guy comes in looking to get advice and he sees a woman poster. the first thing he's going to do is gravitate towards her advice and listen to her before anybody else because she is a woman,she must know what she's talking about. thats what gets alot of guys into trouble in the first place. but your the godofgettinglaid so listening to women must have some sort of benefit. maybe if i become single again, i'll have to get a females perspective of how to get and keep a woman. their advice has been tried, tested and failed.

Many AFCs here have read the DJ bible, and still fail to get laid.

The DJ bible was written by men, and is considered the best advice ever posted on this forum by male posters. So what does that tell you about the oh so great male advice you preach about?

Very few men actualy post good advice on this board. less than 10% know what theyre talking about on this forum. And these guy's posts for some reason never end up in the DJ bible, but plenty of other sh1t does. Point being, most men give crap advice. So for every comment of yours about women giving bad advice, you need to follow it with 10 more about how most men give bad advice. got it? good.

As for the advice/information women actually provide, We have one woman in this thread alone admitting size matters. I dont know about you, but that sounds like some pretty accurate, true, and useful information, not at all like the "buy her flowers" advice you suggest women are giving. perhaps you can explain why watertiger's post contridicts you.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

When it comes to this issue...the best advice a woman can give a man is on

1- daughter issues
2- female body issues (although, some lie too)
3- pregnancy issues

But how to pick up a woman or even get a woman to feel attracted?

ONLY men that has been succesful in this path know what works and what doesn't work.

So, don't expect to have a woman rationalize something that comes naturally "irrational" to them.

Thats like saying the only way a woman can learn to be sexy or attractive to men is to talk to other women. Not true. A man will give far better advice than a woman, becuase he knows what is sexy to a man, he is one!

Same with women, they know what they really want better than a man. Unfortunetly, there are some women who are afraid of appearing shallow, and wont reveal such useful information to men due to this fear, and alot of stupid guys are generalizing women as all to be of this kind who give false advice. You know, the ones that lie and say they want a guy with a "sweet personality" instead of saying what she realy wants a beefcake with a big c0ck. But the fact is, most women wont be afraid to tell you what really turns them on, if you actually talk to a woman about it withou scaring her off.

Latinoman, The fact that the DJ bible often doesnt get AFCs laid, (many are still frustrated after reading it) contridicts your theory that only men give the best advice on attracting women.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

you guys braught this argument it up, so Im gonna rub it in your face!


BUMP!!!!

 

[everywomanshero]

In general, I think beginners would do well to take advice from women. Women can get a guy through the worst phases of being unattractive. Women are good at getting men up to speed on how to at least dress acceptably well and not look like a total tool, getting men to understand that no woman wants some depressed guy who cries 3 hours a day, and the basics.

One of the problems with male advice is that it tends to be misinterpreted more easily due to all the negative emotions involved by guys who have not had much success with women. They tend to look at things as "equalizers", and get caught up in all kinds of macho BS like worrying about other guys and such when 90% of the time if one just phases the other guys out and stays focused on the goal, they don't even matter anyway.

With female advice it's easier to get for beginners I think, because there is less chance of being misinterpreted under the lens of negative emotions and egotism. However, some male authors I find really good for beginners too, like Louis & Copeland. I definitely do not think absolute beginners should be focusing on "AMOGing" or anything that can be misinterpreted through a negative lens.

Even that is an overgeneralization though. A guy who is social and not prone to being negative, he could easily take some more ambigious techniques and make them work straight away with little confusion. Everything is relative.\

The worst thing I have seen with male advice is when one becomes so flooded with the vast amounts of it that he never takes the first step. It's not possible to flood one's head with advice until he comes perfect. It's nessacary to take one strategy or technique and use it right away. This way the things that work for a man will become part of his overall behavior.

 

[everywomanshero]

Why men get frustrated with female advice

Not all females are created equally!

It does take some patience to find females that give good advice.

Good fashion advice is easy to come by, but I am talking about advice on your behavior/actions/what women like and dislike now.

One reason is they mistake your asking for advice as you want empathy, support, or a morale boost. Some women don't get that when you (as a guy) ask for advice it's just because you really want advice. They see it as "does my butt look big?" kind of questioning. LOL.

Secondly, women (until very recently) had not been raised to give their opinions as strongly as men. 50 year ago is women said "I want rich guy with a big dong who is funny as hell and great in bed" she probably would've been treated like some kind of freak. I mean really, in some places SEX and the City was considered scandalous and that wasn't very long ago!

 

[thirtyplus]

Wow, I come back and have finally gotten some replies....

I think it is hilarious that God of getting laid....or whatever his (her?) name is is so ADAMANTLY pushing this agenda of his...on...whatever it is. Women give great advice? Not all women are equal.

I mean, no offense man, it's just funny how worked up about it you are!

I think we can agree to disagree. Obviously not all women give horrible advice, but even more obviously not all women give advice that is that great, either. And it goes without saying (but thanks for saying it) that guys are capable of giving bad advice too.

Although I think your statement that guys give 10x as much bad advice as women is a little misguided

Anyway I got the response I was expecting out of the women, so thanks for participating girls. I don't hate women, far from it. Nor am I mad at anybody.

But entertaining to read nonetheless.....