to the druggies out there...

[il_duce]

Most of the people who often diss drugs completely have never even tried them.

Drug use in moderation is never a bad thing. Can drugs be dangerous? Yes. Should some of them be illegal? Yes. Are you going to die/kill all your brain cells/go on to harder drugs just because you experiment a little? No.

People love to take a "holier-than-thou" attitude, you know, "Oh, I don't do drugs. Drugs are for losers."

So if you said you don't like to watch football, but I do, does that make you a loser? No. So please stop feeling the need to impose your opinions on others.

I've tried DXM before. I think I fell somewhere between the first and second plateau. It was a pretty cool experience, but it's not like I'm counting the days until I do it again. I might never do it again, I dunno. It really wasn't anything to make a big deal out of, imho.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Bible_Belt
you haven't taken a serious look at the ingredients used to make Methamphetamine.

That's the reason to shoot instead of smoke or snort. The meth floats out and the crap stays behind.

No one ever got Hep C or HIV from snorting or smoking anything.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/cocaine/cocaine_bits.shtml
"Shared Straws Can Spread Blood Diseases Such As Hepatitis C
Just as shared needles can spread blood diseases between people, so can shared straws. A study by Bonkovsky and Mehta published in Am Acad Dermatol (2001 Feb;44(2):159-82) reported that blood and mucus on shared straws can spread blood diseases such as Hepatitis C between those who share the straw."

doing drugs you don't NEED to take for medical reasons is foolish

But that glass of wine is a drug you don't need to take. The principle is still the same. Why is it ok to get high on alcohol, but not other drugs?

A glass of wine with a nice meal can't even be remotely compared to injecting poison into your bloodstream. How on earth can you try to rationalize drinking fermented grapes with injecting this junk into your body?

http://www.mcmua.com/hazardouswaste/FAQ_Muriatic_Acid.htm

If you want to put that kind of crap in your body all the more power to you...but at least have the decency to be honest about it and stop minimizing the seriousness of this crap to all the teenage boys who read here and think they are invincible.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by il_duce
Most of the people who often diss drugs completely have never even tried them.

Drug use in moderation is never a bad thing. Can drugs be dangerous? Yes. Should some of them be illegal? Yes. Are you going to die/kill all your brain cells/go on to harder drugs just because you experiment a little? No.

People love to take a "holier-than-thou" attitude, you know, "Oh, I don't do drugs. Drugs are for losers."

So if you said you don't like to watch football, but I do, does that make you a loser? No. So please stop feeling the need to impose your opinions on others.

I've tried DXM before. I think I fell somewhere between the first and second plateau. It was a pretty cool experience, but it's not like I'm counting the days until I do it again. I might never do it again, I dunno. It really wasn't anything to make a big deal out of, imho.

Frankly, I don't really care what informed adults do to screw up their bodies, minds and lives. I take issue with the fact that there are boys as young as 13 or 14 and even younger reading these drug glorifying posts by guys they might look up to. It's irresponsible and is bound to cause some serious problems for someone who is young, thinks they are invincible and want desperately to "be cool". As a mother of 3 teenagers I take deep offense to some of the garbage being posted on this thread. Teenagers have a hard enough time dealing with all the crap they face nowadays. The last thing they need is for guys they look up to telling them drugs are cool and there is nothing wrong with doing them. Stop being so damn irresponsible...

 

[Epic]

I wish you guys would quit with this drugs are bad for you ****. Of course, they're are bad for you. Why do people do them? They don't give a ****.

Wyldfire, the first time I tried a drug, I was 13 years old. I knew it was bad for me, but I didn't care. If you don't know that drugs are bad for you by that age, you probably aren't going to make it that far anyway. Now, I've had friends that overdosed and died. I know what that's like to experience. I'll still say they were at fault because they took it to far. I miss them and it hurts to say it, but they killed themselves.

Bible_Belt, alcohol is just as bad as any thing else, it's legal because everyone was drinking when the country started. Also, injected drugs are worse than smoked or snorted. Why? If you snort a drug it "seeps" into the body through the skin, if you smoke, through the lungs, but at a certain rate of speed. If you inject the whole amount goes straight into your bloodstream and straight to your brain. That's asking to OD.

Everyone knows drugs are bad for you, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. People do them because they are willing to take the risk. You can't sway people from this way of thinking, I used to be one of those people, so I know. Sorry, if I sound rude, but it bothers me that every thread on this site turns into a lecture.

 

[DjDreamer]

Originally posted by Epic
I wish you guys would quit with this drugs are bad for you ****. Of course, they're are bad for you. Why do people do them? They don't give a ****.

People use them because they're available... why do drug dealers sell them? There is demand...

Yeah drugs give you a quick high/instantaneous happiness but like I stated before... he who enjoys life without drugs is a very powerful man... the drug dealer that does not use his own product stands to make a huge profit...

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Epic
I wish you guys would quit with this drugs are bad for you ****. Of course, they're are bad for you. Why do people do them? They don't give a ****.

Wyldfire, the first time I tried a drug, I was 13 years old. I knew it was bad for me, but I didn't care. If you don't know that drugs are bad for you by that age, you probably aren't going to make it that far anyway. Now, I've had friends that overdosed and died. I know what that's like to experience. I'll still say they were at fault because they took it to far. I miss them and it hurts to say it, but they killed themselves.

Bible_Belt, alcohol is just as bad as any thing else, it's legal because everyone was drinking when the country started. Also, injected drugs are worse than smoked or snorted. Why? If you snort a drug it "seeps" into the body through the skin, if you smoke, through the lungs, but at a certain rate of speed. If you inject the whole amount goes straight into your bloodstream and straight to your brain. That's asking to OD.

Everyone knows drugs are bad for you, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. People do them because they are willing to take the risk. You can't sway people from this way of thinking, I used to be one of those people, so I know. Sorry, if I sound rude, but it bothers me that every thread on this site turns into a lecture.

I look at this issue as a parent of teenagers and as someone who was married to someone who spent the bill and food money on his substance abuse. I had to resort to going to food banks so my children had something to eat. I hate drugs. I don't hate the people who get addicted to them, though. I simply find it incredibly foolish to mess with something that has such a high chance of wreaking havoc on your life. It's not logical, rational or wise. I can think of far better things to spend my money on than drugs and booze. Saving for a home, a nice car, a vacation, nice furniture and clothes, taking a day trip to a museum or gallery with my kiddos, a trip to the beach, having some lobster and steamed clams...the list goes on and on. Drugs are such a waste of money, time and potential. I can't see why anyone would want to bring them into their lives. And as a mother...I don't want to see my children miss out on all that life has to offer because they are too busy chasing the next high. A false sense of happiness and joy is all drugs have to offer. Most of the time your not even leaving the experience with memories because you were too messed up to remember much. Life has so much more beauty and adventure to offer...and being able to reflect on quality memories is priceless. There's so much more out there...and if a person is a slave to chasing another high they miss out on most of it. It's a real shame...

 

[Damian]

If you're still doing anything after you've "sobered up" from booze, you're still exhibiting addictive behavior. Sometimes people can move from Booze, smoking, heroin and opiates (think vicodin), to things like sex. Just because you're sober frome one thing, doesn't mean your sober. Get some help if you can't stop. Otherwise, have a good time!

-Damian

 

[Luveno]

This is a pathetic oxymoron. It's a site to hone inner game and confidence, yet there's an open thread about getting high off cough syrup.

This is just plain pathetic. I'm done here.

 

[DumpaLumpagus]

I GOT FIVE ON IT (REMIX)

Intro

Ha ha, the remix (5 on it)
We creepin in too, baby
We got five on that thing, man
We got, uh, Dru Down
We got the LUNIZ (Shock G)
Yeah, Richie Rich
E-40, Spice 1

Verse One: Dru Down

You say you got five on my tenda,
You can bend-a over the table,
But be sure bring my stallion back to my stable,
Say, bruh?
No elementary school ground plan,
Not a five dollar bill,
But five double zero on the real, feel
I'm on the level, stair mellow,
No criticism from the fellows, hello
Being keyed during a high-speed
But still don't tap the B.B.s
I'm dizzy, Dru Down, baby

Verse Two: Knumskull

Like Nyquil, I drop fever,
So either put your five up,
Or ya gots to leave it like ******
Cause see ya,
Nigge Perkland broke and smoke ya spliff all day
Go home and buy big tricky with his pretty Impal-a
I got five on the Hennesse, Segrims, and 40's
Cause this is how we do it like Montell Jordan
I'm from the Oakland city, framed nigge is a gonna,
Now I'm blowin it up like Oklahoma

Verse Three: Richie Rich

Put ya fi-ve with my fin,
Best believe we'll bend
Mo corners than you thought,
To somethin writers bought
More sizz-acks, believe that
Talkin, where you from?
Oakland
Smokin
In attempts to crack the chest plate,
The zips be so fluffy, the whole town loves me
An every event I'm sacked up,
So if ya need me, scream double R when ya see me

Chorus: Michael Marshall

I got five on it,
Grab ya four, let's get keyed,
I got five on it,
Messin wit dat indo weed
I got five on it,
It's got me stuck and toed back,
I got five on it,
Potna, let's go half on a sack

Verse Four: E-40

E-40
Why ya treat me so bad?
40 makes it happen
Fives gets slapped and rubbin them girls just a little bit of light
weight
Flambosant, potent fumes lingerin mighty clouds and molten lights
You expect to bit the baron an you'll be violatin my civil rights
I'm startin to feel my scrilla but perhaps today my scrilla ain't feelin
me
For the simple fact that I'm off to the track with hella fools three
Pockets empty, pitchin five, man I'm dusted
Took off my hat, passed it around, sprinkle me

Verse Five: Yukmouth

Me an E-40 to the head, comin fifth, plus
You let the lead bust,
Ready to do a murda, man?
Curved off the Hurricane, hurled again
Witness we'll bein off two-fifths equal,
Killing people like Jason, facin death every sequel
(Insane in the membrane!)
Bring the pain like Method
Neglected,
Smokin crips to the night to the brains for breakfast
Cause for the in-do fins do the evil that men do,
Give me fi-ve and I shall proceed and continue

Chorus

Verse Six: Shock G

Yeah, it's been a while since I've hollered from the town,
Mess around heard young ginome said "I've gotta be down"
Cause new styles is goin down, look around you
Tunes from the Luniz spread round an round you
Back to get my O on, they let me flow on
The thirty-five on it,
Yeah, I'm on it,
Still brinin satin for them draws
Velvet for the mic and got a pound for the cause

Verse Seven: Spice 1

Rollin up the cannabis, hittin the Mary Jane,
Smokin the five before it's tweleve o'clock
Sippin on Hurricane, ready to smoke on the indo
Rollin up my window, fittin to go to the land,
With a hand fulla brocoli,
When it comes to the sticky, I'm the man
Crunch nasty, I be hittin the jank so hard I hurl
Fall on the floor fittin to have a stroke THC ain't no joke
I got five on everything, let's get loaded and smoke
S-P-I-C-E about to hit it an croaaaakkkkk

Chorus

Outro

Ha ha, wassup baby
It's me, your boy to keep the song always tight
You little short on some ends?
Don't worry, I'll take care of that,
I got you.

-----------

Despite this song's message, it is truly a work of art.

 

[Billasec]

1. While injecting things into you system makes the "best of the worst"....most people look beypnd the context of things and advising them to turn to needles and thus the drugs needles are associated with ( Heroin) is not smart.

Drugs while safer then many things, namely alchol can kill you faster then anything youve ever imagined.

Drugs that are idiot proof....

Weed

Drugs that can be done safely with minor precaution.....

Extasy ( if you are actually getting extasy...try mali to be safe)

Shrooms ( done with the right state of mind)

Coke( snorted... assuming you arent bill gates and buy more then an 8ball)

Lsd ( you cant Od on acid, but can go insane with an EXTREME dosage and the wrong situation)

DXM

Alot of Rx drugs ( Valium...hydocodone....amphetamines like adderol)



I would list other drugs like Crystal meth, but anyone who is adovacating meth as a drug that can be recrational is retarted....but then again is using coke too often.


Ive done more drugs then 99 percent of those my age and never regretted anything. BE INFORMED, KNOW THE RISK, KNOW THE REWARD ....erowid.org

I must say personally my favorite drug that ive ever tried has been shrooms.....so safe so fun ...something everyone should try atleast once in there life

But Ketmine takes a close second ( i draw the line at injection, thus it was snorted)

if anyone has any drug questions, Just post them here and ill do my best to help

 

[animal crackers]

DR: Drug Report

So, after reading h2o's post I decided to give DXM another shot. I did it about 2 years ago and didn't feel any effects. I may have not taken enough for my body.

I weigh 80kg. Went to Osco to look for DXM only cough medication, and it was actually quite hard. Nearly all of the medicine they sell has other active ingredients that kill you if take as much DXM as you need. I found only 2 bottles with pure dxm. (literally there were only 2 bottles on the shelf, not just 2 different brands)

1. Childrens 'no spill' bubblegum flavored cough syrup
2. Vicks44 Cough relief

I bought the Vicks44, and drank the entire bottle. 120ml. There are 30mg of DXM HBr in each 15ml tablespoon of the Vicks. So I did roughly 240mg total.

12:30 -Drank bottle. Tasted alright. Drank some coke to wash it down.

1:00 - Nothing, no upset stomach just burping a lot (probably the coke)

1:30 - Legs feel kind of wierd, but nothing really

1:45 - Feel lightheaded, and body is a little loose. Sort of like taking a hit of weed and drinking 2 beers. Not extreme at all.

2:00 - Similar feelings as 1:45

2:45 - Right Now. Feels a little less than before.


I guess it wasn't enough for me. Although this time I definately felt something. It was kind of cool, but not intense at ALL. I'd rather be wasted honestly. I need to try a much higher dose next time.



animal crackers

 

[thederekeffect1]

Re: Re: DR: Drug Report

Wow! ****ing wow.
Seriously.
This whole f*cking thread... Is what drugs do to you.

Anybody in a sober mind right now, I want you to take a step backwards and read this whole thread. You guys will say anything to make yourselves feel better about doing drugs. You know it's stupid, but you'll say anything to defend your actions. Just like a woman will say anything to defend her actions when they appear slutty.

"Despite what the government says..."
Just to add to your conspiracy theories, the government (CIA) created LSD for mind control. They've publically admitted to this. If you want to read more about it there are tons of articles on it. Do a google search.

I'm not some stupid guy telling you guys are stupid without having experienced drug usage in his life. I'm someone whose been there. I'm someone whose taken every drug in the book. ****, I mixed drugs. I'm going to tell you right now, I'm lucky to even be alive. I'm someone whose OD'd three times on three different drugs!

And the stupid sh*t that you guys say, I swear... Particularly this post:

"Drugs that can be done safely with minor precaution.....

Extasy ( if you are actually getting extasy...try mali to be safe)

Shrooms ( done with the right state of mind)

Coke( snorted... assuming you arent bill gates and buy more then an 8ball)

Lsd ( you cant Od on acid, but can go insane with an EXTREME dosage and the wrong situation)

DXM

Alot of Rx drugs ( Valium...hydocodone....amphetamines like adderol)"

All three of the drugs that I OD'd on are in that post. Extacy (it doesn't take much to OD on extacy. I didn't take much and I ended up in the hospital), Coke (also doesn't take much). But the dumbest part of this post: "LSD (you cant Od on acid, but can go insane with an EXTREME dosage and the wrong situation)". You can't OD? Shows how much research you put into that post. Guess what the 3rd drug I OD'd on was? LS-f*cking-D. If you did your research you'd know that LSD is the most lethal drug of all of the ones you listed. Not only because of the short term effects (possibility of ODing), but because of the long-term effects.

Read into the CIA conspiracy that I talked about above. There are multiple stories about people ODing on the drug during the tests and DYING.

Out of all the drugs you listed, shrooms are the LEAST dangerous.

"We do drugs because we just don't give a f*ck"
... You listen to too many rap songs. People do drugs for multiple reasons. None of them are about not giving a f*ck. People do drugs to rebel. People do drugs because they're bad (to be badass). People do drugs out of depression. People do drugs out of pure pressure. Because everyone else is doing some sort of drug. People do drugs to get laid *shrugs*.

"Drugs don't kill, people kill"
People ON drugs kill.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not completely against your drug usage. Sh*t... I still smoke marijuana on occasion. And I guess, sense we're including alcohol in our drug usage, I still drink. There are times that I want to go back. It was fun as hell. Just talking about DXM makes me wanna do DXM again. Before typing this, I even wanted to join the conversation with you guys and be like "yeah! Drugs are cool!" ... but come on... If you're going to talk about drugs. Be smart. Don't act like there are no side effects. Like nothing bad can happen. Like nothing can go wrong taking drugs. Like there's NOTHING wrong about drugs. Don't defend them. Keep it at admitting you do them and talking about your fun experiences. Be smart and don't act like a dumbass.

 

[Wyldfire]

Look at how disgusting people look after using Speed for awhile (Ice, Crystal Meth, Methamphetamine, etc)

Ooh yeah...I think I'm going to run right out and age myself 25 years in 6 months just for how "fun" it will be.

Idiots...

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oreg..._gallery.cgi/olive/view_gallery.ata?g_id=2927

 

[Wyldfire]

Story about a 22 year old college student who OD'ed on DXM and died.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4608341/

 

[Centaurion]

Anyone know how many times you have to do crystal-meth before getting addicted?

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Centaurion
Anyone know how many times you have to do crystal-meth before getting addicted?

Not very many. From what I have heard from very reliable sources it's really easy to get addicted to. It's not as hard to get off of as opiates are, but even after you're off it and even if you hate the drug...if someone puts it in front of you you'll do it again.

The stuff is nasty...don't mess with it.

 

[Centaurion]

Well, I messed around with it 3 times last week. Having sex while high on that stuff is nuts. But I guess I gotta stop now.

 

[GSXR RiDeR]

Originally posted by Centaurion
Anyone know how many times you have to do crystal-meth before getting addicted?

There is no specific number of times you can do it before your addicted. The thing with meth is you might try it one weekend and like it, so you start doing it every weekend. Soon enough you will start hanging for the weekend to arrive just so you can get on. Soon after that you will be doing it Friday, Saturday, Sunday and then you will need some just to get through work on Monday all the while believing your in control. You can pretty much guess what comes next and that is everyday usage, see most people dont believe they are addicted until they try to or are forced to stop. Basically what im saying is meth addiction comes on slowly and you will be addicted along time before you realise you have a problem.

^^^^ This is in referrence to smoking meth and its not something i read or heard somewhere its something i know a lot about first hand. I didnt even want to post on this subject in fear that people will think im trying to make taking drugs seem cool when infact its far from it. I only answered for you because i read your other post about smoking meth last weekend and thought you might be considering doing it again so i thought i would give you a heads up about how addiction works.

 

[Nighthawk]

They should reintroduce cocaine to the coca-cola recipe. It's not the real thing without it.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Centaurion
Well, I messed around with it 3 times last week. Having sex while high on that stuff is nuts. But I guess I gotta stop now.

It's in your best interest to stop before getting addicted to it. There is some nasty, nasty stuff in that drug. Drano, paint thinner...stuff that has warnings on the labels for a reason...it's poison. If you even saw the photos of people your age that got addicted and ended up making their own and having explosions and getting burned it would make you sick to your stomach. I saw photos of a young and very beautiful girl who got burned and it was downright painful to look at her face with the burns. It was grotesque what it did to her. People who get addicted to the stuff get sores and boils on their skin, waste away to nothing and lose their teeth. Don't do that to yourself, man...at only 21 years old you have too damn much to look forward to. Drugs will eat you whole and spit you out in chunks. Crystal meth is one of the worst out there.

Oh...and Crystal Meth is very popular with the gay community. If you get addicted and end up surrounding yourself with other Meth addicts you are almost certain to find yourself hanging around a few gay men. The last thing you want is to find yourself so addicted that you need a hit so bad you are faced with the dilemma of deciding whether or not you'll give oral sex to a gay man in order to get that next hit. It's not a pretty scenario.