To imagine how women feel often, think about this

[RazorRambo24]

I'm not sure if this applies to everyone but, think about the time when a girl was super eager to talk to you/hang out with you. and you just felt like you barely knew her or that she was too thirsty for your attention. A girl you didn't' even like that much and might have been slightly interested in her if she wasn't so eager and almost desperate to meet you.

Your automatic reaction to it would be passive or like trying to turn her down, etc.. its almost impossible for someone to desire someone back when before anything happens the scale of desires is so heavy on the other side. If you're a normal person, you would be put off by their behavior.

This is the same thing that happens when men try to meet women online or try to date someone they met in person. They're so enamored by the IDEA of the person in their head, that they're mystifying the experience and so eager to see that person.. Not knowing whether that person is a piece of s.ht , bad in bed, emotionally unstable, has a horrible personality, is using a photo filter and a pound of makeup and fake eyelashes, hair extensions.

Sometimes ALL it takes is 1 picture.. and a bio. They see that one picture (whether girl/guy) and they are like omg i reaaaaly want to meet this person they seem so <all these false ideations>. Women have to deal with a multitude of guys who all give off eager vibes.. For women its easier to just push dudes away and disqualify everyone, because

1) they're already getting all the validation they need just by going out and getting attention or being on a dating app
2) it honestly feels weird when u know people want you so bad without u even knowing them, its a strange thing and only when its like someone who seems like ur dream desire do u get flattered by it . for women its worse because u know someone wants to stick something in you and use you as an object

What prompted me to write this post: I got some chick rn whos super eager to hang with me, she keeps hinting at romance and dating, joking around about us being together and all type of sht that is just a turnoff. I think if she was more of my type, i'd still be put off. Even while at work she wants to talk to me on her break and all th.s stuff.. has asked me to hang out consecutive days now

I have no doubt in my mind that I can have her doing splits on my d.ck with 0 effort.. But i dont need that .. My cups already overflowing.. and I would never lower my standards even tho she isnt bad looking.. I got other stuff to worry about right now.. like one of my plates asked me to go to a wedding with her, where her cousin is getting married, and where I would most likely be meeting her parents. and Im not into that. to me thats a turnoff that she sees a future with me when I dont with her. Now i gotta decide whether I want to proceed or give he r the long talk that i dont see a future with her..

 

[Bingo-Player]

Yes i often think about it like this too

i have come across a few girls in my time that have been very very eager for me .......and yes it has turned me off them very quickly

I do get where women are coming from with that

Attraction and interaction are two very very thin lines you must navigate with a woman

its a dance , a battle of wits one that men 8/10 will lose because of thirst

The person who cares the least will always win in any negotiation

The key is to demonstrate to her that she's an option .....not a priority

In my experiences if you can get them into that frame it's usually within their nature to start trying to gain more attention from you and that's when you can beat them

 

[Gamisch]

Thing is nowedays a lot of men dont even experience being on the other side. In dating it matters who wants it most. People tend to really want things that are out of reach.

But its definitely true that when a woman (with lower smv or too many red flags) love bombs you, you'll get cautious. I geuss I've ditched some good women simply because they came on to me too strong. Kinda self sabotaging. And yes,this might be close to the experience women have with thirsty men. Only difference is that men chase sex, where women chase relationships.

Because its difficult for most men to find a woman they actually like, once they get or find one they'll do everything in their power to keep her . One of the dangers and consequences of dealing with mediocre women,and pedalstalizing women in general.

 

[BadBoy89]

I have no doubt in my mind that I can have her doing splits on my d.ck with 0 effort.. But i dont need that .. My cups already overflowing.. and I would never lower my standards even tho she isnt bad looking.. I got other stuff to worry about right now.. like one of my plates asked me to go to a wedding with her, where her cousin is getting married, and where I would most likely be meeting her parents. and Im not into that. to me thats a turnoff that she sees a future with me when I dont with her. Now i gotta decide whether I want to proceed or give he r the long talk that i dont see a future with her..

This is good but a lot of men aren’t this Alpha to have girls begging them to sleep with them, or to meet their parents.

A lot of men here have trouble connecting with one decent looking fertile girl who doesn’t want to financially destroy him.

 

[RazorRambo24]

This is good but a lot of men aren’t this Alpha to have girls begging them to sleep with them, or to meet their parents.

A lot of men here have trouble connecting with one decent looking fertile girl who doesn’t want to financially destroy him.

I think one of the takeaways for those people who might read this post is that majority of the time, their desire for a person is completely based off an IDEA/ Idealized version of that person, rather than the person itself who they don't know anything about besides her being pretty and having some holes.

I think people should try to meet women who give you a chance to figure them out-- and that's why its so important for alot of men to be social and try to connect with people and enter friend groups where there are both men and women. This is a way better method to meet women for I would say the majority of men. Rarely have men in good relationships met their partner on an app. It's moreso through mutual friends, college, certain activities, and even church communities for certain ethnicities (ie: Romanians, Serbians),

But besides taht this post kinda speaks on the notion that most of modern dating is completely superficial and idealized trysts that ultimately degrade a persons ability to find good relationships-- because they toss themselves into these patterns of meeting women, having sex, them not getting along, and moving on to another, until this becomes their ideal pattern and what they attract.

For the man who has it difficult in attracting women to begin with-- His journey is quite different.. You could say he has a lot longer way to reach his goal posts based on the work he needs to put in to become the person he can confide in to be able to do whatever he sets his mind to. Inner game is such a huge thing and why alot of dating coaches tell dudes work on yourself first, and then when you're happy with where you're at, like who you see in the mirror, are happy with your financial status, thats when you go out and enjoy dating.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

In my experience the over-eager woman sees you as someone who "can make her feel good about love and dating again", meaning she's damaged and will only phuck on her terms, which she will try to hide because the terms will be disagreeable.

These women just aren't worth it if you have options.

 

[Stanley]

The more apathetic I have become the less this has become a problem. Can't say that is a good thing in some respects, but with women and outcome dependence it pays dividends.

 

[jaymbrs]

I think one of the takeaways for those people who might read this post is that majority of the time, their desire for a person is completely based off an IDEA/ Idealized version of that person, rather than the person itself who they don't know anything about besides her being pretty and having some holes.

Agree. I posted about my friend recently approaching his gym crush. He hyped her up so much and now that he's gotten to know her, she's trash. Funny enough now that he's figured that out, she's constantly hitting him up.

 

[BadWatermelon]

One of my first Redpill-ish moments was when a girl was really into me and I wasn't into her. She bought me small gifts, texted me often (and I texted her short, terse responses), and even called me once and I was annoyed.

Then it dawned on me that I was treating her the same way most women treat me.

 

[espanish]

your post reminded me of this milf that i went out with. while cheering her drink against my drink, she said "here is to our first drink" I was thinking jesus she is already thinking "us"?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I think what the thread is about is what to do with girls who are into you, but you are not into them. I'm in a relationship. I have issues such as this. In particular, when my organization sends me out to do a PR. Often, some woman will want to 'help me put the equipment away 'and maybe get lunch. After my presentation. While, if I were single, I'd be up for it. I have to prevaricate and deflect. I pretend to be clueless and the typical stupid male. I'm not sure it works as I look like a 'pervy porn star.' But. I'm not sure what else to do.

 

[LTG71]

One of my first Redpill-ish moments was when a girl was really into me and I wasn't into her. She bought me small gifts, texted me often (and I texted her short, terse responses), and even called me once and I was annoyed.

Then it dawned on me that I was treating her the same way most women treat me.

When we get praise or rewarded without much effort, it lowers the value. Getting free praise feels cheap. Imagine an above average looking woman with a collection of orbiters catering to her every whim. She doesn’t see them as special because she didn’t have to do anything to earn the adoration. We typically pine over what we don’t have. Ironically that’s what often happens when you give up the chase, she‘ll start chasing you If you have something she wants. If you don’t have what she wants then you are just annoying. Works both ways.