To everybody who says cold approaching doesn't work

[j0n024]

Just reading your post.....it clearly shows how arrogant and ignorant you really are it's actually quite sad so you have my pity now .

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Tsk tsk tsk Justice.

Cold approaching doesn't work for most guys for several reasons. The very act of walking up to a stranger and asking them for a date makes one look needy and of lower value.

And where'd u get this from? the very act of this makes you high value. why? Because u go for what u want without apology and that to a woman show strength. Also, women remember this. Some tell their friends, but its only cuz they like it but want to be sure from her peers that its ok to like it. Now what would be needy if u "chased" a woman. Cold approach is not chasing as if the woman rejects u, u just move on to the next.

Does cold approaching serve a purpose? Yes it does. It can get you used to rejection and make you more comfortable in social situations. It can also be detrimental because after 30 women tell you NO, it's probably going to affect your confidence.

Justice...thats much further than the truth. It does ALOT more. Not only does it get use to rejection and being more comfortable, u get more women to "choose" from. I've gotten rejected much more than 30 times and i can honestly say it made me more confident considering it doesn't really bother me that much. Course in some days it will, but then it just passes by

The point is, that it's really a big waste of time. There are many other things that you can do to get women and they're much more productive than cold approaching. Liken Cold Approaching to Cold Calling. Anyone who's ever been in sales knows that Cold Calling is usually a big waste of time. Not too many people like to do it because the results just aren't there. Samething with this approaching, nothing inherently wrong with it, but it's not that effective.

I flat out disagree. Cold Approaching is the most productive way to have ur game to ur upmost potential. Cold Calling is different as the customer does not see you, can only hear ur voice. Bad analogy.

I also get a kick out of Texastornado. He advocates this technique, supposedly uses it with success, then doesn't bother to call some of the women? What the hell is the sense to that?

He had phone call anxiety, but then overcame it and has had a few days. Thats the sense in it

Opinions vary, but mine is that this technique isn't something you should spend a lot of time doing.

You can do it in ur own time. And yea, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but present stronger arguments. Ur just bashing. Hell, Player Supreme is against cold approaching but he presents strong arguments to where u gotta respect it.

 

[justiceseeker]

Just reading your post.....it clearly shows how arrogant and ignorant you really are it's actually quite sad so you have my pity now .

I'm arrogant? Not hardly. I'm not the one who thinks I can walk up to random strangers and get them to give me their phone numbers and have sex with them. But thank you for your pity.

 

[justiceseeker]

Tsk tsk tsk Justice.

Instead of having an approach journal that anyone can fabricate, take a friend with a camera a long and tape your approaches.

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU WILL DO IT BECAUSE IT WOULD EXPOSE YOU FOR THE FRAUDS YOU ARE.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Hahah. No...i can do it, i just don't want to pay 40 bucks for a sound recorder right now to try to prove one silly member of this forum that im not a fraud. I would gain nothing from posting fake field reports. Wats the point of it? To try to have validation from members on the forum on what i've done? I haven't posted my progress in field since early May, but i can honestly say that the things in my journal have happened. I couldn't fake how diverse many of the situations have been for cold approaches even if i tried.

Sorry dude, but it seems to me that ur belief of us who do cold approaches and am getting some sort of result is making u p1ssed, because u dont' want to believe it or ur afraid to try. Like i said, i have no reason to lie. I don't visit the forum much and aint tryin to impress anybody.

 

[justiceseeker]

Hahah. No...i can do it, i just don't want to pay 40 bucks for a sound recorder right now to try to prove one silly member of this forum that im not a fraud. I would gain nothing from posting fake field reports. Wats the point of it? To try to have validation from members on the forum on what i've done? I haven't posted my progress in field since early May, but i can honestly say that the things in my journal have happened. I couldn't fake how diverse many of the situations have been for cold approaches even if i tried.

Sorry dude, but it seems to me that ur belief of us who do cold approaches and am getting some sort of result is making u p1ssed, because u dont' want to believe it or ur afraid to try. Like i said, i have no reason to lie. I don't visit the forum much and aint tryin to impress anybody.

Sounds like an excuse. I'm certainly not pissed about any success you're having with cold approaches. It's my opinion that it's a waste of time for the vast majority of guys. If it works for you, great. But don't stomp your feet and scream when someone questions your success.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

^An excuse? well thats ur opinion. But yea, i'll scream....i'll yell and roar to the sky as loud as it takes! MWAHAHAHAHA! But that aside, if someone questions my success or result or credbility...im gonna challenge them about it. If i come off too assertive, so be it

 

[Snow Plowman]

haha...cold approaching doesn't work...I just got home after a day and a half of being with 3 chicks messed them...imagine three chicks and one dude in the bed...

Cold Approaching is a skill but the biggest factor is the "person" doing the approaching...your reality plays a major role in how interactions go down...

My way of cold approaching is different than most but even wings that I've met and have...all of them have gotten better...

One Wing has over 150 numbers...a few day2s and a few makeouts...I've seen him makeout with a chick on the street in less than 3mins...he even attracted a famous actress...he just doesn't have any depth which is why he only gets these experience because of his cold approaching skills...

Another wing who gets success based off cold approaching skills BUT is very indifferent is a wing I met who was totally new...in 3 months he laid a chick he approached at the bridge toll booth...went to the penthouse of a chick he #closed by walking up to her jaguar at the red light...met chicks in afternoon together and met up with them later that night and he took them to the club...went to a new city and got a 3way makeout...again this is a man who doesn't have much depth but he is very indifferent...

Me personally I have depth and cold approaching skills...but I don't have to do much to get attraction because of my reality. Chicks want to fuk me, they always eyeing me, smiling at me, and opening me...I RARELY get blown out..VERY VERY rare...this is because I have depth...where the cold approaching skills come in handy is handling situations, knowing what is going on, knowing how to move I forward, etc.

All these guys talk about AA, looking needy/deseperate...it only is that way if your reality is wired that way...

I have ZERO AA, I'm more calm in public than actual school and on camera. I NEVER come off desperate or needy because I'm inviting these chicks to the party...

If my mission is to save the women by giving them a real man and I have this party going on and I give her the chance to join the party...how is it needy? I'm here to help...

In my world I'm like a prince on the catwalk looking at the women below and choosing who I want because they all want me so I can select who I want and give them the chance to meet me...My reality is so firm and so deep that women are instantly attracted...

Cold Approaching is by far the greatest thing in this community...being able to talk to a chick anywhere at anytime is awesome...Yes social circle is the easiest thing next to a 2set with a wing...but are you going to be with your social circle or wing 24/7...what if your social circle is nothing but dudes...how will you meet girls...

I believe if you can't approach ANY chick at anytme when YOU want too without any shift in reality, then you can still improve...

Also for the newbies you don't know the adventures you'd have everyday...I didn't even know I'd be sleeping with 3 chicks in the same bed messing around...I didn't know today I'd meet a very cool chick who can actually keep up with my rhythm...

 

[justiceseeker]

^An excuse? well thats ur opinion. But yea, i'll scream....i'll yell and roar to the sky as loud as it takes! MWAHAHAHAHA! But that aside, if someone questions my success or result or credbility...im gonna challenge them about it. If i come off too assertive, so be it

Yes, I do question your results. I'll even buy you a camera so you can record your results. The thing is, you could easily have friends that are girls pose as approaches, so I guess that's not going to work. The point is, under verifiable conditions, you'd shyt all over yourself.

 

[daygameguy]

I guess the thread starter "Texas Tornado" has tornadoed his way out of this thread lol

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Yes, I do question your results. I'll even buy you a camera so you can record your results. The thing is, you could easily have friends that are girls pose as approaches, so I guess that's not going to work. The point is, under verifiable conditions, you'd shyt all over yourself.

I've just been able to go on 3 day 2s, and 2 insta-dates in the past 6 weeks, thats the only results i have so far...but in about a few weeks, i can post up in field audio, considering i'm prolly gonna buy a digital audio recorder anyhow since i want to record some in field footage, but since its a 1 on 1 challenge...why not lol.
If i was doing pictures it would be hidden and of while im approaching, these are three parts of those pictures i would take:

1) As i approach/stop a girl
2) Talking to her
3) Get a number or walk together to insta-date

 

[justiceseeker]

haha...cold approaching doesn't work...I just got home after a day and a half of being with 3 chicks messed them...imagine three chicks and one dude in the bed...

Cold Approaching is a skill but the biggest factor is the "person" doing the approaching...your reality plays a major role in how interactions go down...

My way of cold approaching is different than most but even wings that I've met and have...all of them have gotten better...

One Wing has over 150 numbers...a few day2s and a few makeouts...I've seen him makeout with a chick on the street in less than 3mins...he even attracted a famous actress...he just doesn't have any depth which is why he only gets these experience because of his cold approaching skills...

Another wing who gets success based off cold approaching skills BUT is very indifferent is a wing I met who was totally new...in 3 months he laid a chick he approached at the bridge toll booth...went to the penthouse of a chick he #closed by walking up to her jaguar at the red light...met chicks in afternoon together and met up with them later that night and he took them to the club...went to a new city and got a 3way makeout...again this is a man who doesn't have much depth but he is very indifferent...

Me personally I have depth and cold approaching skills...but I don't have to do much to get attraction because of my reality. Chicks want to fuk me, they always eyeing me, smiling at me, and opening me...I RARELY get blown out..VERY VERY rare...this is because I have depth...where the cold approaching skills come in handy is handling situations, knowing what is going on, knowing how to move I forward, etc.

All these guys talk about AA, looking needy/deseperate...it only is that way if your reality is wired that way...

I have ZERO AA, I'm more calm in public than actual school and on camera. I NEVER come off desperate or needy because I'm inviting these chicks to the party...

If my mission is to save the women by giving them a real man and I have this party going on and I give her the chance to join the party...how is it needy? I'm here to help...

In my world I'm like a prince on the catwalk looking at the women below and choosing who I want because they all want me so I can select who I want and give them the chance to meet me...My reality is so firm and so deep that women are instantly attracted...

Cold Approaching is by far the greatest thing in this community...being able to talk to a chick anywhere at anytime is awesome...Yes social circle is the easiest thing next to a 2set with a wing...but are you going to be with your social circle or wing 24/7...what if your social circle is nothing but dudes...how will you meet girls...

I believe if you can't approach ANY chick at anytme when YOU want too without any shift in reality, then you can still improve...

Also for the newbies you don't know the adventures you'd have everyday...I didn't even know I'd be sleeping with 3 chicks in the same bed messing around...I didn't know today I'd meet a very cool chick who can actually keep up with my rhythm...[/QUOTE


One of his "friends" made out with a girl within 3 minutes of cold approaching her. He attracted a "famous actress"...He walked up to a woman in a red jaguar, at a stop light no less, and ended up in her penthouse????????


Why don't these guys have their own shows? They're better than mystery ever was.

Does anyone else see what I'm saying here? Does this even sound plausible? I'm not saying you can't pick up a random chick now and then and get her number, but the crap this CLOWN is spewing is utter bull****.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

^Because some people could careless about having their own Tv SHOW. So many things could happen in the game to where some things seem like they'd be impossible. U Can doubt it all you want, but that'll just limit where the game can take you.

 

[EFFORT]

I guess the thread starter "Texas Tornado" has tornadoed his way out of this thread lol

wow almost spit out my drink after reading that corny joke thanks for the laugh :crackup: :crackup:

 

[justiceseeker]

It's becoming patently obvious that noob thinks he's the greatest pua ever. From just the past few posts, anyone who disagrees with him is a 1) Troll 2)person who should be banned 3) a woman........

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Well, it varies, and I'm not sure which approach types count as opening in your definition. Recent such approaches include direct introductions ("I thought I would meet you. I'm Chron."), commenting on things nearby [where applicable] or about their shirts [if there is text on their shirts], or, as you point out, trying to say hi and see what happens (which you don't consider an approach).

I don't see any particular pattern to which of these work and which don't; they generally all seem to be ineffective, resulting most of the time in total nonresponse.

I've read of "negs", and thought of starting such approaches with them, but I've never been able to come up with something on the spot (yes, I've read the big list of them that's been posted online, but I'm not currently a quick-thinker socially at this time). It's difficult in general, especially in moving situations where I often have less than a second to notice them and seconds or less to use an opener or the like before physical distances render things impossible.

What methods do you consider most recommendable?

Definitely Direct. Direct is the most effective for cold approaches during the day. Direct is not easy to pull off unless done right. some people who bash direct consider it either "Too strong" or "giving the woman too much value". Thats BS. Women like it being strong and it doesn't give the woman value as ur qualifying her and telling her a statement of desire...to where she can take it or leave it. Thats not giving away power.

When people start direct, they'll tend to get rejected. I did for the first few weeks, as i wasn't congruent with it. Its Not because its the method, but because they're not doing it the right way. When doing direct u must have a warm, confident, romantic vibe to you. Without it, it won't work. If u look at it as an opener only, then u won't get far with it, it'll show in ur face. BUT, if it comes as a mindset(That u choose her cuz she fits ur looks and will see more, even if ur looking for just a hook up), then it'll work more as u seem more genuine with it.

Thats my recommendation.

 

[DJ#7436]

My 2 cents..

If you demonstrate low value because of your direct cold approach and still pull a number and follow it up, wouldnt that prove that you obviously have more game/personality. You just overcame demonstating lower value and came out on top. After a few successful cold approaches, i would think, that social circle interaction would just be a breese.

To sum that up, its seems like once you have developed skills at cold approaching, warm approaching would be easy.

DJ#7436

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

^But the thing is, ur not demonstrating lower value being direct. Ur automatically higher value because it comes from the inside. Being direct, u got to be ur confident self.