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I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

I take this site to heart, and because of that I'm able to get phone numbers.

I've always looked at them in the eye when talking, I'm never nervous nor do I stutter around them. I always say "hey" in a confident tone and sit next to them. I find myself attractive. I only left 1 message after waiting a few days. I always ask open ended questions in class and have them laughing.

Even today, I was talking to an HB9 about the same teacher and how wacky he is in class, we both made fun of him basically. We also did a quick chat on schedules and work. She played with her hair while talking to me and smiled alot.

At the end of class I asked if she was free Friday, she said she's working all through the weekend. I find that as BS.

I've been at this all week. I'm to the point where I want to use myspace.
 

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At the end of class I asked if she was free Friday, she said she's working all through the weekend. I find that as BS.
Take smaller steps. Get the phone number, THEN set up a date. Also, don't be afraid to give her the benefit of the doubt. If she's working straight for two weeks without a break in her schedule, that's BS.

Friday night (as with any day of the weekend) is one of the worst nights to ask for a first date. This is when people go out with their friends, visit their families, etc. Try setting up a date on a weeknight first.
 

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On some friday nights, my computer and porn are my best friends. Nothing wrong with that.
To quote Harold from Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle: Wow...that, that sounds awful :p.
 

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edit: getting the phone number should be your last resort. tons of us got to this barrier before...you feel like you're doing everything right. but if you're building up to a number close, it's not so good...and i got a ton of flakes that way. instead, use the number close as an absolute emergency. don't number close...use it very sparingly. when you approach, make eyecontact/smile, and wave them over to you if you can. or atleast wave. you can weed out the low interest ones that way.

so, what i'm saying is go for the fvck everytime. sure, it sounds sleazy, or stupid, but seriously, "make the ho say no." and that way, i can say from experience, that you will not fail...and you won't feel alone.

and if you seriously want some easy ass, head to the club...it's friday night. the club is the easiest pickup spot in town...i know i'm going tonight. just be careful who you pick up, be protected, and don't fvck with the lights off.
 

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Originally posted by Desdinova
Take smaller steps. Get the phone number, THEN set up a date. Also, don't be afraid to give her the benefit of the doubt. If she's working straight for two weeks without a break in her schedule, that's BS.
I thought I'd switch it up because when I called these other girls yesterday, I didn't get an answer. I wanted instant results.
 

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I know how you feel man, but I really believe that a lot of the resistance we men get comes from ourselves, not the women. If you have everything else together, create attraction, etc., but can't get dates, there is SOMETHING holding you back. It could be lack of motivation and disinterest in messing with women even though you feel you want them.... I know that sounds complicated but it exists, because I find myself in that position occasionally, not feeling like screwing with women. It could also be something really simple like not being aggressive enough. Sure, a true DJ can be a magnet for chicks and let them do all the work, but for most guys, this just doesn't seem to happen. Being TOO aggressive is a bad thing, but so is not being aggressive enough. You say you get the #, which is great, but in my opinion, that is only half the battle. The first call should be casual, but you should get down to business. Of course you can't sound desperate, and you should continue with your display of indifference towards her, but sooner or later, everybody has to make a move, and this should be the time if you didn't already do it earlier. You can't beat around the bush forever and act totally disinterested, never even going for a "date", but you CAN make an advance without having her lose any attraction for you. I think it is ok to arrange for a meeting before you even get her #, but I also think that can be trickier since you may appear to be too easy for her and you are no challenge, no mystery, and give her no time to wonder about you. But once again, do a little self-evaluation. In my case, I have problems actually finding girls I am physically attracted to, and I go to a university too, so figure that one out, haha. Soo, if I don't see any girls I like, I may chat and flirt with them, but when it comes time to get the #, I am just not interested enough in them to make an effort and get it. Unlike some of the guys on here who apparently have low standards, I won't screw anything that moves just to say I got some action. Perhaps you have similar problems. I suggest you keep your standards high, to what you want, or dating any random girl might leave you a bit unfullfilled.

Now that I have said all that, probably useless to you, there is something else I want you to look at.... When you interact with these women, do you just act like a friend, or do you actually treat them like a DJ should? Anyone can talk to women and get #'s, but attraction may have never taken place if you didn't do some things to cause it. Looking good helps, but for most attractive women, you gotta have an attitude to set yourself apart or else you're just another guy hitting on them. Tease them, make fun of them, treat them like "your bratty little sister", they want you to treat them like this. Being funny and making them laugh is great, but you can do this in such a manner that she sees you just as a friendly guy, and that is bad. If you don't have the coc-kiness and you don't know how to treat her like a little girl, she may not see you as the man you want her to see you as. It is said that women can determine within 5 seconds of meeting you whether or not they are going to sleep with you. This means your body language, your voice tone, etc., should be as good as possible, or you're automatically disregarded in her mind.

Finally, women play games, women test men constantly, most men lose. To beat her games, refuse to play them, laugh at her when she tests you. Subconsciously a woman does things to determine what kind of a man you are. If she tells you she is going to be busy for ----- days, just remain calm and hint to her you had other, better plans anyway. This is her test to see how desperate you are. A woman has also been known to wait up to a week before returning your call to see if you call her again before she calls back, but if you wait it out, and she was interested, you will win and she will eventually give in and call. Also, if you're a man, you won't ever get angry at her or act affected in any way, but at the same time, you won't put up with her crap. If you were really good, you could avoid her games altogether, but as I said earlier, you may have created some resistance if you pushed for a date or something. NEVER fall into her traps and play her games, because once she knows she has you, once she knows you will do anything to get her, it is over.
If these girls you have called have turned you down for dates and you acted upset or disappointed or like you had nothing else to do, then now you know what you're doing wrong. Some have said that if you're not happy without a gf, you won't be happy with one. However true that might be, don't worry man, keep trying, keep your head up, you'll have your day....
 

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Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
I know how you feel man, but I really believe that a lot of the resistance we men get comes from ourselves, not the women. If you have everything else together, create attraction, etc., but can't get dates, there is SOMETHING holding you back. It could be lack of motivation and disinterest in messing with women even though you feel you want them.... I know that sounds complicated but it exists, because I find myself in that position occasionally, not feeling like screwing with women. It could also be something really simple like not being aggressive enough. Sure, a true DJ can be a magnet for chicks and let them do all the work, but for most guys, this just doesn't seem to happen. Being TOO aggressive is a bad thing, but so is not being aggressive enough. You say you get the #, which is great, but in my opinion, that is only half the battle. The first call should be casual, but you should get down to business. Of course you can't sound desperate, and you should continue with your display of indifference towards her, but sooner or later, everybody has to make a move, and this should be the time if you didn't already do it earlier. You can't beat around the bush forever and act totally disinterested, never even going for a "date", but you CAN make an advance without having her lose any attraction for you. I think it is ok to arrange for a meeting before you even get her #, but I also think that can be trickier since you may appear to be too easy for her and you are no challenge, no mystery, and give her no time to wonder about you. But once again, do a little self-evaluation. In my case, I have problems actually finding girls I am physically attracted to, and I go to a university too, so figure that one out, haha. Soo, if I don't see any girls I like, I may chat and flirt with them, but when it comes time to get the #, I am just not interested enough in them to make an effort and get it. Unlike some of the guys on here who apparently have low standards, I won't screw anything that moves just to say I got some action. Perhaps you have similar problems. I suggest you keep your standards high, to what you want, or dating any random girl might leave you a bit unfullfilled.

Now that I have said all that, probably useless to you, there is something else I want you to look at.... When you interact with these women, do you just act like a friend, or do you actually treat them like a DJ should? Anyone can talk to women and get #'s, but attraction may have never taken place if you didn't do some things to cause it. Looking good helps, but for most attractive women, you gotta have an attitude to set yourself apart or else you're just another guy hitting on them. Tease them, make fun of them, treat them like "your bratty little sister", they want you to treat them like this. Being funny and making them laugh is great, but you can do this in such a manner that she sees you just as a friendly guy, and that is bad. If you don't have the coc-kiness and you don't know how to treat her like a little girl, she may not see you as the man you want her to see you as. It is said that women can determine within 5 seconds of meeting you whether or not they are going to sleep with you. This means your body language, your voice tone, etc., should be as good as possible, or you're automatically disregarded in her mind.

Finally, women play games, women test men constantly, most men lose. To beat her games, refuse to play them, laugh at her when she tests you. Subconsciously a woman does things to determine what kind of a man you are. If she tells you she is going to be busy for ----- days, just remain calm and hint to her you had other, better plans anyway. This is her test to see how desperate you are. A woman has also been known to wait up to a week before returning your call to see if you call her again before she calls back, but if you wait it out, and she was interested, you will win and she will eventually give in and call. Also, if you're a man, you won't ever get angry at her or act affected in any way, but at the same time, you won't put up with her crap. If you were really good, you could avoid her games altogether, but as I said earlier, you may have created some resistance if you pushed for a date or something. NEVER fall into her traps and play her games, because once she knows she has you, once she knows you will do anything to get her, it is over.
If these girls you have called have turned you down for dates and you acted upset or disappointed or like you had nothing else to do, then now you know what you're doing wrong. Some have said that if you're not happy without a gf, you won't be happy with one. However true that might be, don't worry man, keep trying, keep your head up, you'll have your day....
Awesome post man.

See the problem is I didn't want to be too ****y too soon, especially if I just met them plus I don't have much else to work with rather than what I mentioned in my first post.

I stopped asking what she was doing after Friday and Saturday, I shrugged it off when she told me she was busy.

Sometimes I think I might have too high of standards. I figure I'd picked the best looking ones in the class because I'm so awesome!

I feel just fine being without one. I've been taking care of myself physically and mentally, having a good paying job and a good education, but sometimes it's not easy looking at other couples walk past you enjoying life together.

If I knew a club or a party that's closeby, I'd be there. I'm in community college and all my friends usually hang out with me on weekends. There's really not much else to do.

Ok I'm done typing.
 

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Screw clubs and parties man, you don't need them, because you already have the best resource: the college classroom. And hopefully, you can find some girls there who aren't slu-ts, but nice girls like that are becoming rather uhh... hard to find. Still though, your chances of finding these worthy women is not that high in clubs or parties. I can see that you and I think similarly, because you don't seem to want just a quick lay, you want a relationship. Nevertheless, the DJ advice here remains the same, because once you have her attracted to you, she will automatically go into relationship mode.... meaning, you shouldn't focus on creating that relationship, but instead focus your attention purely on being attractive, if that makes any sense to you. I think a lot of girls get turned off quick when a guy "moves in" on them or tries to take it to a relationship too quickly, because I think subconsciously it gives them the idea you are dependent on them and you need them, not the other way around.

Make your moves, but at the beginning, never call anything a date, never change your personality and act all happy if you think you have her, never do anything that gives her the idea you are working to get her, because these are all turn-offs to her. DO be a man of action and give her the opportunity to meet you again, do let her call you back before you call her again, do treat her just like you did when you got her # in the first place, and if you don't really have anything else to do than spend some time with her, make something up so you don't appear boring, desperate, or of low social status. Let's face it, women like interesting people, and a big part of this is having an interesting, unique, personality. No matter how attractive you are, if you're boring, you are in bad shape.

About being coc-ky: you know about coc-ky/funny I presume.... so I will tell you that as long as you put humor in what you say, you can be as coc-ky as you want. You need not worry about offending them, because if she can't take a little teasing from you, do you really want to be with them? Just consider it your "bi-tch test." She gets offended and gives you attitude, she loses, you didn't want her anyway. On the majority of women, a little coc-kiness will make you shine. It is basically just super-confidence, so it makes sense. Once again, I think the problem with most men is that they are afraid to speak their minds, afraid to push her buttons, and ultimately, they end up as her friend. I have seen countless men try to talk to girls like they are mackdaddies, but all they do is have normal conversations, thinking they are actually getting somewhere by getting personal with her. NO. Don't just have normal convos with women. I can't help but roll my eyes everytime I see some loser in a backwards hat thinking he is the shi-t because he can have a regular conversation with a hot girl..... hahaha. Then I step in and show this girl who the boss is, show her something she hasn't really seen before, let her know there ARE men out there who actually have a PERSONALITY, who actually have a sense of humor, who are down-to-earth and aren't afraid to say it all. They don't want a fake guy, someone who talks but doesn't really have any attitude. This is boring to them. Women want something different. Let me ask you this: what distinguishes you from the 100 other men that hit on a particular woman? Confidence is great, it gets you far, but sometimes you need just a little edge over the competition, and a unique personality will get you there. I can almost guarantee you that none of those 100 other guys were coc-ky, none busted her balls, none had the courage to do that, and to that girl they all blurred into one big mass of AFC nice guy. In fact, they were all super respectable, and verbally kissed her ass, and even if they did act cool, they never really interacted with her in an attractive way.... all they did was sit back and pretend, they didn't have the balls to do anything more, much less the brains. Women don't find "nice" particularly attractive. You will make a great FRIEND, but that's it. I have said it before: You can be a coc-ky bas-tard and yet still be the nicest man on earth. Talk like a bad muffuga, but every now and then show her you're a nice guy with your actions, not words. The way you treat her from the very beginning, you should continue to act in that way throughout the relationship to keep the attraction up. You have said what you were doing is not working, so I encourage you try something new. If you are not getting very far with women, maybe just a slight change in the way you treat them will finally allow you to reach your full potential. I don't have all the answers man, I just know that if what you're doing isn't working, it makes no sense to continue like that. I understand you probably already know most of this, but it helps to hear it again anyway.

One more thing: don't ask her what she's doing. That is not a good idea, because it implies that you really don't have any plans and you are allowing HER to call all the shots. You gotta be a leader, be dominant. You from now on tell her you are going to be doing something, and then invite her to do that with you, or suggest that she join you for lunch or something, but don't "ask" her to. If she is interested, she will make time to do something with you, or she will call you back to offer an alternative, or whatever. If not, forget her. If she gives you the busy bullcrap, tell her you are going to just have to do those things with someone else, and to call you back if she changes her mind, all in a nonchalant manner of course. You have shown her you see right through her games and you aren't going to play along, very good. In the case she really IS going to be busy, who cares? Since when do attractive, busy women not have a single hour in the week to spend time with someone? They always make time. You wouldn't tell a girl you were interested in that you are sorry, you're going to be busy the whole weekend, would you? No, you would make a counteroffer, you would tell her when you WON'T be busy, you would make time for her, anything but just say, "sorry, I'm busy this weekend." It could be a game to her yes, or a test, but I've already told you how to completely disable all that. If that is the case, you should do fine, and she would eventually call you back. I hope I have helped you at least a little bit.... sorry for the book, it is my TV hour though :)
 

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Originally posted by Vanilla
I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

I take this site to heart, and because of that I'm able to get phone numbers.

I've always looked at them in the eye when talking, I'm never nervous nor do I stutter around them. I always say "hey" in a confident tone and sit next to them. I find myself attractive. I only left 1 message after waiting a few days. I always ask open ended questions in class and have them laughing.

Even today, I was talking to an HB9 about the same teacher and how wacky he is in class, we both made fun of him basically. We also did a quick chat on schedules and work. She played with her hair while talking to me and smiled alot.

At the end of class I asked if she was free Friday, she said she's working all through the weekend. I find that as BS.

I've been at this all week. I'm to the point where I want to use myspace.
Check your attitude dude, it says a lot, instead of being tired of beign alone, you should embrace life and be happy, women can sense when a guy feels alone, no matter how much you try to cover it, change your attitude, stop thinking about women, focus on life, your life, and get one, once you are comfortable with your life and yourself, you will get rid of that karma women are picking up.
 

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Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
Screw clubs and parties man, you don't need them, because you already have the best resource: the college classroom. And hopefully, you can find some girls there who aren't slu-ts, but nice girls like that are becoming rather uhh... hard to find. Still though, your chances of finding these worthy women is not that high in clubs or parties. I can see that you and I think similarly, because you don't seem to want just a quick lay, you want a relationship. Nevertheless, the DJ advice here remains the same, because once you have her attracted to you, she will automatically go into relationship mode.... meaning, you shouldn't focus on creating that relationship, but instead focus your attention purely on being attractive, if that makes any sense to you. I think a lot of girls get turned off quick when a guy "moves in" on them or tries to take it to a relationship too quickly, because I think subconsciously it gives them the idea you are dependent on them and you need them, not the other way around.

Make your moves, but at the beginning, never call anything a date, never change your personality and act all happy if you think you have her, never do anything that gives her the idea you are working to get her, because these are all turn-offs to her. DO be a man of action and give her the opportunity to meet you again, do let her call you back before you call her again, do treat her just like you did when you got her # in the first place, and if you don't really have anything else to do than spend some time with her, make something up so you don't appear boring, desperate, or of low social status. Let's face it, women like interesting people, and a big part of this is having an interesting, unique, personality. No matter how attractive you are, if you're boring, you are in bad shape.

About being coc-ky: you know about coc-ky/funny I presume.... so I will tell you that as long as you put humor in what you say, you can be as coc-ky as you want. You need not worry about offending them, because if she can't take a little teasing from you, do you really want to be with them? Just consider it your "bi-tch test." She gets offended and gives you attitude, she loses, you didn't want her anyway. On the majority of women, a little coc-kiness will make you shine. It is basically just super-confidence, so it makes sense. Once again, I think the problem with most men is that they are afraid to speak their minds, afraid to push her buttons, and ultimately, they end up as her friend. I have seen countless men try to talk to girls like they are mackdaddies, but all they do is have normal conversations, thinking they are actually getting somewhere by getting personal with her. NO. Don't just have normal convos with women. I can't help but roll my eyes everytime I see some loser in a backwards hat thinking he is the shi-t because he can have a regular conversation with a hot girl..... hahaha. Then I step in and show this girl who the boss is, show her something she hasn't really seen before, let her know there ARE men out there who actually have a PERSONALITY, who actually have a sense of humor, who are down-to-earth and aren't afraid to say it all. They don't want a fake guy, someone who talks but doesn't really have any attitude. This is boring to them. Women want something different. Let me ask you this: what distinguishes you from the 100 other men that hit on a particular woman? Confidence is great, it gets you far, but sometimes you need just a little edge over the competition, and a unique personality will get you there. I can almost guarantee you that none of those 100 other guys were coc-ky, none busted her balls, none had the courage to do that, and to that girl they all blurred into one big mass of AFC nice guy. In fact, they were all super respectable, and verbally kissed her ass, and even if they did act cool, they never really interacted with her in an attractive way.... all they did was sit back and pretend, they didn't have the balls to do anything more, much less the brains. Women don't find "nice" particularly attractive. You will make a great FRIEND, but that's it. I have said it before: You can be a coc-ky bas-tard and yet still be the nicest man on earth. Talk like a bad muffuga, but every now and then show her you're a nice guy with your actions, not words. The way you treat her from the very beginning, you should continue to act in that way throughout the relationship to keep the attraction up. You have said what you were doing is not working, so I encourage you try something new. If you are not getting very far with women, maybe just a slight change in the way you treat them will finally allow you to reach your full potential. I don't have all the answers man, I just know that if what you're doing isn't working, it makes no sense to continue like that. I understand you probably already know most of this, but it helps to hear it again anyway.

One more thing: don't ask her what she's doing. That is not a good idea, because it implies that you really don't have any plans and you are allowing HER to call all the shots. You gotta be a leader, be dominant. You from now on tell her you are going to be doing something, and then invite her to do that with you, or suggest that she join you for lunch or something, but don't "ask" her to. If she is interested, she will make time to do something with you, or she will call you back to offer an alternative, or whatever. If not, forget her. If she gives you the busy bullcrap, tell her you are going to just have to do those things with someone else, and to call you back if she changes her mind, all in a nonchalant manner of course. You have shown her you see right through her games and you aren't going to play along, very good. In the case she really IS going to be busy, who cares? Since when do attractive, busy women not have a single hour in the week to spend time with someone? They always make time. You wouldn't tell a girl you were interested in that you are sorry, you're going to be busy the whole weekend, would you? No, you would make a counteroffer, you would tell her when you WON'T be busy, you would make time for her, anything but just say, "sorry, I'm busy this weekend." It could be a game to her yes, or a test, but I've already told you how to completely disable all that. If that is the case, you should do fine, and she would eventually call you back. I hope I have helped you at least a little bit.... sorry for the book, it is my TV hour though :)
Man I dunno how you find the time to write all that.

Truth be told, I have never been to a party nor been to a club. Even my entire neighborhood is filled with old farts.

But you're right, I've been focusing too much on confidence alone and not enough of making sure I was the dominant one. I'll reread the DJ bible on attitude, though the last thing I'd want to do is insult her. Plus it seems odd though telling her I'm going to have dinner by myself.

Again thanks for typing your ass out helping me. It's alot of work just to get a girl who will make sandwiches for me.
 

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excellent posts, Pimpfromdayone.

I know what you mean, i can chat up with girls and somehow at the end still not even be interested in them...i just find it very weird.

Vanilla -
If that chick had a counter-offer it would indicate high IL. At this point it doesnt seem all that high. Either move on or work on your game with her.
 

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Re: Re: Tired of being alone

Originally posted by salsipuedes
Check your attitude dude, it says a lot, instead of being tired of beign alone, you should embrace life and be happy, women can sense when a guy feels alone, no matter how much you try to cover it, .
Get over this idea that women are magical.

They can't "sense" hardly anything.
 

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solo1, thankyou. And about the disinterest part, well, I think it has a LOT to do with how women are the most boring people on the earth, and some of the hot ones have absolutely NO personality. Sure, I can be attracted just because of her looks, but if she is only a 7 or 8, she better learn how to be at least a LITTLE bit interesting and not sit there like a piece of furniture or I have no trouble walking away without her #.

mrRuckus, I'm not going to say you're wrong, because I have had trouble with a lot of people on these boards who were incapable of saying anything other than "you're wrong", but I will mention one thing:
supposedly, women can read body language and communicate with it 10 times better than the average man. Don't quote me but I think body language makes up around 80% of the communication between people. If you're confident, they will pick up on it, just from body language (which includes facial expressions). I keep saying women pick up on things subconsciously, without even realizing it, and it is true. Things like desperation, masculinity, confidence, all evaluated at a more primitive level of thinking. You're right though, their true ability to "sense" things is probably overestimated
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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quote:Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
Screw clubs and parties man, you don't need them, because you already have the best resource: the college classroom. And hopefully, you can find some girls there who aren't slu-ts, but nice girls like that are becoming rather uhh... hard to find. Still though, your chances of finding these worthy women is not that high in clubs or parties. I can see that you and I think similarly, because you don't seem to want just a quick lay, you want a relationship. Nevertheless, the DJ advice here remains the same, because once you have her attracted to you, she will automatically go into relationship mode.... meaning, you shouldn't focus on creating that relationship, but instead focus your attention purely on being attractive, if that makes any sense to you. I think a lot of girls get turned off quick when a guy "moves in" on them or tries to take it to a relationship too quickly, because I think subconsciously it gives them the idea you are dependent on them and you need them, not the other way around.

Make your moves, but at the beginning, never call anything a date, never change your personality and act all happy if you think you have her, never do anything that gives her the idea you are working to get her, because these are all turn-offs to her. DO be a man of action and give her the opportunity to meet you again, do let her call you back before you call her again, do treat her just like you did when you got her # in the first place, and if you don't really have anything else to do than spend some time with her, make something up so you don't appear boring, desperate, or of low social status. Let's face it, women like interesting people, and a big part of this is having an interesting, unique, personality. No matter how attractive you are, if you're boring, you are in bad shape.

About being coc-ky: you know about coc-ky/funny I presume.... so I will tell you that as long as you put humor in what you say, you can be as coc-ky as you want. You need not worry about offending them, because if she can't take a little teasing from you, do you really want to be with them? Just consider it your "bi-tch test." She gets offended and gives you attitude, she loses, you didn't want her anyway. On the majority of women, a little coc-kiness will make you shine. It is basically just super-confidence, so it makes sense. Once again, I think the problem with most men is that they are afraid to speak their minds, afraid to push her buttons, and ultimately, they end up as her friend. I have seen countless men try to talk to girls like they are mackdaddies, but all they do is have normal conversations, thinking they are actually getting somewhere by getting personal with her. NO. Don't just have normal convos with women. I can't help but roll my eyes everytime I see some loser in a backwards hat thinking he is the shi-t because he can have a regular conversation with a hot girl..... hahaha. Then I step in and show this girl who the boss is, show her something she hasn't really seen before, let her know there ARE men out there who actually have a PERSONALITY, who actually have a sense of humor, who are down-to-earth and aren't afraid to say it all. They don't want a fake guy, someone who talks but doesn't really have any attitude. This is boring to them. Women want something different. Let me ask you this: what distinguishes you from the 100 other men that hit on a particular woman? Confidence is great, it gets you far, but sometimes you need just a little edge over the competition, and a unique personality will get you there. I can almost guarantee you that none of those 100 other guys were coc-ky, none busted her balls, none had the courage to do that, and to that girl they all blurred into one big mass of AFC nice guy. In fact, they were all super respectable, and verbally kissed her ass, and even if they did act cool, they never really interacted with her in an attractive way.... all they did was sit back and pretend, they didn't have the balls to do anything more, much less the brains. Women don't find "nice" particularly attractive. You will make a great FRIEND, but that's it. I have said it before: You can be a coc-ky bas-tard and yet still be the nicest man on earth. Talk like a bad muffuga, but every now and then show her you're a nice guy with your actions, not words. The way you treat her from the very beginning, you should continue to act in that way throughout the relationship to keep the attraction up. You have said what you were doing is not working, so I encourage you try something new. If you are not getting very far with women, maybe just a slight change in the way you treat them will finally allow you to reach your full potential. I don't have all the answers man, I just know that if what you're doing isn't working, it makes no sense to continue like that. I understand you probably already know most of this, but it helps to hear it again anyway.

One more thing: don't ask her what she's doing. That is not a good idea, because it implies that you really don't have any plans and you are allowing HER to call all the shots. You gotta be a leader, be dominant. You from now on tell her you are going to be doing something, and then invite her to do that with you, or suggest that she join you for lunch or something, but don't "ask" her to. If she is interested, she will make time to do something with you, or she will call you back to offer an alternative, or whatever. If not, forget her. If she gives you the busy bullcrap, tell her you are going to just have to do those things with someone else, and to call you back if she changes her mind, all in a nonchalant manner of course. You have shown her you see right through her games and you aren't going to play along, very good. In the case she really IS going to be busy, who cares? Since when do attractive, busy women not have a single hour in the week to spend time with someone? They always make time. You wouldn't tell a girl you were interested in that you are sorry, you're going to be busy the whole weekend, would you? No, you would make a counteroffer, you would tell her when you WON'T be busy, you would make time for her, anything but just say, "sorry, I'm busy this weekend." It could be a game to her yes, or a test, but I've already told you how to completely disable all that. If that is the case, you should do fine, and she would eventually call you back. I hope I have helped you at least a little bit.... sorry for the book, it is my TV hour though
Man if all this is what it takes to get girls GOD help us ALL!!! Sounds very difficult lol..like REAL HARD not just any play play challenge damn:eek: guess we have to keep trying..:) :(
 

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Naw man, it's not that hard, I was just being really specific, just in case I could pinpoint a certain area someone was having trouble in... You never know when it comes to women though..... they are the one thing Freud himself said we would never figure out. And yes, God help us all.
 

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I can sympathize with the original writer of this thread. I've done cold approaches, the whole C&F, getting the number, asking questions, etc. I've never actually been on a date with a single girl that I've tried these DJ "tactics" on.

Are girls really that prone to flake? I can see why so many guys don't bother and spend their lives playing computer games. :rolleyes:
 
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Don't use myspace!:down: I a member there and it is horrible tryin to meet women there I had 115 women friends and I said something to each and every one of them and I got about 10 replies then after I said something else I never got a reply from them, except for 3 chicks and none of them live in my state. Myspace chicks 80-90% of them just want attention and to make their friends list bigger. Before anybody says I f'd up the convo, everything I said was neutral. Ex. anytime I asked a girl to be my friend and she accepted I would send this message:

"Hi, my name is **** and Im going around meeting new people. So, how are you doing? Leave me a comment sometime so we can chat."

Now only like 10 chicks actually sent me something back, and now I talk to 3 of them and 1 didnt even send me anything back but I got her anyway. Here is how:
She sent a bulletin telling all her friends to go see the movie "Waiting" because it was really funny. So I sent her this:

"I'll see it only if you take me with you"

and the convo jumped from there, 3 very minor successes, and they were not worth all the hassle, so dont bother. If anyone sees something wrong with my first comment in bold tell me if that wasnt a good thing to say.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Tired of being alone

Originally posted by mrRuckus
Get over this idea that women are magical.

They can't "sense" hardly anything.
Couldn't agree more. I can't tell you how many times i heard this BS! After careful review i found out it's exactly that, BS.

Yeah women sense when your lonely, desperate, horny, etc etc.... IF YOUR BLATANTLY OBVIOUS ABOUT IT...

A donkey could sense that your desperate if you have it written all over you :rolleyes:

Get this... Woman are magical sensors that can x-ray scan you and see if you are desperate or lonely no matter how much make-up you put on it... BUT they can't figure out that your gaming them, putting up your act to bed them, with absolutely no intention of ever putting a ring on their finger...

Yeah, that's consistent!
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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