Tips for maintaining self control

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Hey guys,

I'd like to preface this post by stating I'm no expert by any means when it comes to seduction or courting women. As a Beta and soon-to-be aspiring Alpha, I've had my fair share of rejections and misfires in the past with women. With that being said, I have learnt a great deal in my recent experiences that I'd like to share with y'all. In particular, I noticed that alot of the guys here tend to dig themselves into a big hole when it comes to overtexting and reacting from a place of paranoia. My objective here is to share some of my observations about the value of maintaining self control and keeping one's composure, and how it pays dividends in the long run.

1. Texting
As it has been emphasized before countless times, the phone is STRICTLY for setting dates and logistics only. Bantering over text does absolutely NOTHING to increase your chances with a girl (unless it involves sexting or a game). When it's all said and done, you're more likely to take yourself out of the game by overtexting than by undertexting. Mundane questions such as 'How are you?' and 'What you up to?' are not only boring but also demand a response from the girl. If anything, you should be saving these questions for a personal meet up to keep the conversation flowing.

Think about it from the other side, are you more likely to respond to a text that reads 'How are you?' or another text with a joke that conveys value? Even if you do reply to the former, its forced and purely out of a sense of obligation. To create rapport, you can't 'demand' anything from a girl and must establish a certain level of comfort.

Are you more likely to keep texting a girl that does not reply or a girl that overtexts you? The uncertainty that comes with not knowing what the other person is thinking is more POWERFUL than a long winded text.

Why do guys constantly feel compelled to send follow up texts? Because they're not in control of the conversation and have to have absolute certainty that the girl has acknowledged their text and not forgotten about them. The solution? End the conversation by either saying you have to go or not responding to their text (I personally prefer the latter). If you're not expecting a text from them, you won't feel anxious or feel the need to resort to excessive texting.

Recommendations:
A. Unless you are confirming the time and venue of a date, DO NOT ask questions about her that demand a response. Instead, make statements that convey value, playful jibes, references to when you guys met, that tempt her to respond.

B. If you have nothing to say, don't say it. DO NOT reply to texts like 'okay', 'good night' or 'hahaha' and just leave it at that. Bottom line is, if there's no value to be had in responding or nothing important in their response, just forget it.

C. Where possible, end the text conversation on a high note and leave it at that. That way, it doesn't seem like you're on the losing end if you text again a week later. Chances are they'll text you first if you don't let it drag on.

D. You don't always have to answer her questions directly. For instance, I always respond to 'How are you?' questions with something completely random or leave them hanging. E.g the girl said but you haven't answered my question and i would say well meet me and find out then ;)

E. NO LONG texts. Always reply with texts that convey only half the amount of investment she puts in. Brevity is the soul of wit. Are you more likely to reply to a long ass text or a short one (that raises more questions than answers)? The trick is to put yourself in her shoes and think about how you would respond.

2. Fear
This generally only applies to girls you have ****ed, girls you've been intimate with or girls who have invested alot of time and effort into you. The fact of the matter is, a woman's emotions are NEVER constant. One day they can be into you, but the next thing you know they could be avoiding you like the plague.

A. A Vicious Cycle
The first step to getting out of this mentality (where you have to constantly make sure the girl is still into you) is to take a step backwards and take a deep breathe. Understand that its a cycle, and that women will not always be into you 24/7 and that there will be times when they'll lost interest (like cats!). Once you understand that they'll always come back (one way or another), you'll no longer fear losing them.

Whether you're married or in a relationship, the attention from her will not always be there forever. There are times when you just have to take a step back and let her internalize her ****.

B. Attraction cannot be forced
When a girl has clearly lost interest in you, no amount of texting, pining or things you do will EVER get it back. The same concept applies when it comes to those who are anxious about losing their woman to another man. You can't change the way a woman feels about you (in the moment) or 'force' her to fall in love with you again. Reaching out to her when she clearly doesn't want you (right now) is only going to annoy her further, whereas inaction will create a sense of mystery and make her wonder. The more you pressure, or control her, the more likely you are to drive her away permanently as she'll feel less comfortable around you. Besides, what's the point of forcing yourself to police her all the time? You won't be able to relax and will always be on anxious and on the edge. If she's gonna cheat on you, she'll cheat on you. There's nothing you can do about that, as far as her feelings are concerned.

The only thing that is within your power to do, is to show her a good time and remind her what a catch you are and what she's missing. Always make sure she associates you with positivity and good emotions. Then, let time take its natural course and take care of the rest.

NEVER ever lose your composure and show her the side of you that's desperate or needy. Women are turned off by men who are insecure or attention seeking. Above all else, its about maintaining your integrity as a man and not compromising yourself for her attention.

Just my 2 cents! Writing about it is also therapeutic for my situation.
 

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No self-control here with my finger on the +rep button under this post.. It shall be pushed. Welcome to our forums and great post. Its good to make a post like that when you first come here. Let's us see where you are, and let's you later see what more you have added to it.
 

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Wow, If only I could have read this post about a week ago! Great information and you really put it in a way I could almost perfectly relate to. Thanks!
 

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You're very welcome! We're all in this together and it's all thanks to you guys that I'm starting to shed the 'Betaness' in me.

Just to give a better idea of what works and what doesn't. Here are some examples of text conversations I've had from my past experiences:

1. What to do

Her: I'm bored
what are you doing
Me: Cool stuff
Her: what kind of cool stuff. what's uppp
Me: The ceiling
Her: hahah. what are you up to?
Me: About 5'6 without shoes
Her: I hate you
Me: sweet
Her: :(
Me: i have an idea
Her: what kind of idea?
what what
Me: Let's watch this really cool comedy
Her: whennnn
Me: soon
Her: i thought you were spontaenous.
Come overrrr
Me: Be there in 20
Her: Okieeeee.

I brought a horror film over (as opposed to a comedy just to mess with her) and we kissed/made out all night.

2. What NOT to do
Me: Hey how's it going?
Her: Not too shabby. I'm moving next week. you?
Me: My day was pretty good. Got alot of work done and have a few upcoming projects next week that i'm quite excited about. You know how it is. Nice! you're moving to a new place? where is it? It's always good to have a change of scenery. We should do sheesha again soon.
Her: Its at xxxxxx. Can't wait to move! Haha yeah maybe u can come visit
Me: Ohhhh that's a nice location! It's really close to alot of the best eateries in city centre. I'll be sure to visit next time! Hey you wanna check out that cat cafe you were talking about this week?
Her: haha ok to cat cafe.
Me: How about saturday? Is that good for you?
Her: I can't do saturday as I'm flying back on the same day. Maybe next week?
Me: Next week sounds good! Let's do it then! Let me know
Me: Hope you had a good trip in xxxxx!
Her: Hey i'm back. Yeah I had a really good time. Saw my mom but it was really crazy at the end. Mad rush to the airport and had to argue with
Me: Oh that sucks! Been there done that. Had a similar experience years ago excephey wouldn't let me on the flight. Oh well! Hey you wanna get together this week then? How does Wednesday sound?
[day later] Me: Still up for cat cafe this wednesday?

[No response]

I completely ****ed up with this girl.
 

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For those of you who find it hard to be indifferent or not overanalyze and deconstruct every single thing a girl says, here's something I learned relatively recently that will serve you well.

HAVE ZERO EXPECTATIONS
What causes us to lose our frame and become supplicating minions to women? Why do we end up 'caring' too much for women that we were gaming in the beginning? Why do we agonise over every single text or word that she says?

The source of all that misery is expectations. A good example is the honeymoon period of a relationship or the height of a woman's interest in you (during the dating game) is essentially the peak period of a woman's attention/affection, which is manifested in:

- Constant texting and initiating
- Physical affection
- Undivided attention towards you

This causes us to developed unrealistic expectations.

When we are accustomed to people behaving in a certain way that makes us feel good, it's only natural to seek more of it and to maintain it. When there is a break in the pattern, and they behave in a way that is not aligned to our expectations, the following questions will emerge:

- Did I do something wrong?
- What happened?
- How can I get it back to where it was originally?

How many times have you obsessed over why she isn't texting you as frequently as she used to?

Folks, I'm here to tell you that these thoughts are toxic! Ultimately, what this means is that seeking validation and security from the object of your affection is the only way to have peace of mind.

This has a domino effect that subsequently leads to beta behaviour around the same person. Sound familiar? You start to ask her what's wrong, pay attention to every single thing she does and start walking on eggshells for fear of making it worse. You might even buy her flowers, text her more frequently and initiate meets even when her monotone replies of 'ok' and 'haha' clearly subcommunicate disinterest.

Solution: Understand that YOU are the source of the problem. You are the victim of elevated expectations and delusions of grandeur you have created within yourself.

You have to come to expect her to behave a certain way, and when it does not meet your expectations, you panic and assume that you're about to lose her. It's the reason why you spend hours staring at your phone in the vain hope of getting a message from her. It's the reason why you can't let it go when she says something hurtful. It's the reason why you find yourself deconstructing every little thing she does for hours on end. Understand that by holding her up to these standards and expectations, you will only be setting yourself up for disappointment. Know that a woman's emotions will never truly be constant, and that fretting over it or trying to control it is a fruitless endeavour. It's the feelings she invokes within you that you want, NOT HER. Do not be a prisoner of those expectations/feelings.

To truly maintain control and never lose yourself again, you need to practice complete indifference, which can ONLY be obtained by having NO EXPECTATIONS. Even when things are going well, RESIST the temptation to expect more from her or the belief that this feeling of well being will last forever. It won't. There will always be highs and lows.

Would you be disappointed if you never expected something to continue in the first place? No

That's the key to never losing yourself and maintaining your frame. Be a jedi. Don't let your expectations **** u over



The reason why you're feeling this way is because you're afraid of losing her.
 
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