Tips for adult male virgins by coach Nick Notas

[needimprovement250]

If you are in a position where it's relevant for you to even tell girls about your dating history, then kudos to you for being in the zone. When you are far out of even that zone, then nothing about your history is relevant because nobody cares. When you find yourself having to deal with real-life issues, getting a full-time job, being part of the grind, living paycheque to paycheque and trying to make ends meet without spirling further into debt....then things like that really take a backburner in your mind. With the state of the economy, inflation, and way things are going, I think there are bigger issues out there than our lack of experience.

You said you were looking for a job before? Do you see me post here often anymore. I don't have the time with a full-time job where I have to be on my A-game and sell stuff. If I get my head bogged down in sad/depressing things then it will affect my performance. Have to look up and be cheery. Focus on something interesting about yourself and think of a few stories or something that you can talk about. Look at inexperience talk as something that is sad, that does nothing but get you depressed, and kills the vibe of any girl you are dealing with and try to steer the vibe into something upbeat and positive.

Well what I meant was this mindset I have is making me believe that my inexperience is gonna prevent me from having any success with women and will guarantee me rejection every single time, so there’s no point in even making an effort to try and date anyone and it’s preventing me from getting anywhere near that zone.

I am completely aware that there are more important things in my life that need to be fixed than my lack of experience with women. I am actually working 2 jobs right now, both are seasonal and temporary but I’m working 7 days a week this month and weekends are 13 hour workdays. I’m using the money I’m getting to travel so I can go look for a cheaper area to move to because as I’ve said before, the cost of living in my area is extremely high and I think that I would do better for myself by moving to a cheaper area. I’m also using the money to pay for my next classes at school and that’s the reason why I’m working temporary seasonal jobs, so that I can still make money and don’t have to juggle a regular job and school to overwhelm myself.

As for what you said about the inexperience talk, it does get me sad and depressed but I don’t think I should let women know that because it will make them more curious about what’s in my past that makes me sad and depressed.

 

[corrector]

Well what I meant was this mindset I have is making me believe that my inexperience is gonna prevent me from having any success with women and will guarantee me rejection every single time, so there’s no point in even making an effort to try and date anyone and it’s preventing me from getting anywhere near that zone.

I am completely aware that there are more important things in my life that need to be fixed than my lack of experience with women. I am actually working 2 jobs right now, both are seasonal and temporary but I’m working 7 days a week this month and weekends are 13 hour workdays. I’m using the money I’m getting to travel so I can go look for a cheaper area to move to because as I’ve said before, the cost of living in my area is extremely high and I think that I would do better for myself by moving to a cheaper area. I’m also using the money to pay for my next classes at school and that’s the reason why I’m working temporary seasonal jobs, so that I can still make money and don’t have to juggle a regular job and school to overwhelm myself.

As for what you said about the inexperience talk, it does get me sad and depressed but I don’t think I should let women know that because it will make them more curious about what’s in my past that makes me sad and depressed.

So it is all noise in your head right now. No women actually rejected you because of inexperience. At least no one recently.

Why dont you get in the zone first? How are the female coworkers treating you? Are you talking to anyone?

The way you are thinking is like if I were to refuse to work for fear of catching covid. You have to accept the fact that there will always be risks with dating. There are some girls who will be endeared to the fact you are inexperiened.

 

[needimprovement250]

In my honest opinion, I think a lot of this stuff stems from internal issues where it results in self sabotaging. Think of a guy is still inexperienced at an unusual age, so closing in on 30, and he's gone on a couple dates with a woman he met. He really doesn't know what the hell is going on but he finds her alone with him at his place and doesn't know what to do lol. He then feels the need to mention to her that he is a virgin thinking that she will be more understanding or perhaps help lead the interaction, instead he very likely just completely sabotaged himself for no reason.

I can confirm that this definitely happens. When I went on my first ever date (and still only date) back when I was 21, she wanted to go to this lookout point nearby after we were done with what we had planned and once we got there, she immediately went to the backseat of my car. I followed her back there and we were sitting there awkwardly for like 5 minutes and I knew what she wanted to do, so out of pure nervousness I told her that our date was my first ever date and that I was still a virgin and had never even kissed a girl. Shockingly, she wasn’t deterred at all and we still hooked up. So inexperienced adult men will reveal this out of nervousness and you’d think that me not being rejected for it would make me not worry so much about it being an issue, but that hasn’t been the case. Maybe it’s because I’m even older now and still inexperienced.

 

[needimprovement250]

It is important to never give women the idea that you are "available." Massive availability of a man is a massive red flag that indicates a "damaged goods" status in the mind of a woman.

Yeah I’ve heard this before and I completely agree, a man being too available is a turn off for women. I’ve heard that you should let her know that you’re only available like 2 days of the week at maximum.

The virgin is the ultimate form of damaged goods, especially if he is over 25. Women look at him the same way that men look at a car that has been on used lot for a long time: "There must be something horribly wrong with it, or someone would have bought by now."

In short, never give a woman a straight answer about your sexual history and always give the impression that she is NOT your only regular female contact in your life. You can "spin plates" but more often than not, just the illusion of you spinning plates is enough to keep her fighting for your attention. Make yourself the "big ticket item" in this bargain basement society filled with "damaged goods."

I agree with this too, when you’re 18-early 20’s your virginity might not be an issue but once you’re 25+, it becomes a red flag to a lot of women and you should avoid them finding out about it. Like I already said on this thread, I think the most important thing for me and other inexperienced men to learn is how to get through the conversation about past relationships and dating history without revealing much about your past. And yeah, a woman knowing that she’s your only option will usually turn them off because they start to wonder why nobody else is interested in this guy.

 

[needimprovement250]

Wow. You have tons of shyte to fix, yet you somehow believe you have the right to get bad bytches lol. Could not be further from the truth!!!!

You want to have your cake and eat it too. The problem with y'all is you are all lazy bums who refuse to make (power )moves. Ofcoursee you feel inadequate because YOU ARE.

Think about it like this: what type of woman would be PROUD to show you off to her friends \ family? Probably one that lives in her car or is homeless lol. And unfortunately for men like you; even a homeless woman is capable of pulling "normal" men who'd have or want to resort to prostitution ( which is A LOT ).your "competition " is way too strong for you. Mind you , the men wwho DO make shyte happen are NOT EVEN your competitors at this point lol. If you want to be CONSIDERED as a potential candidate to women here's what you must do RIGHT NOW:

-get a damn job..no excuse you lil *****. You are blessed with your parents. If it wasn't for them you'd be dead now. Pay them back both with pride and with literally hard earned money. .

-Disable your account here. Stop posting on forums UNLESS its about progression and moving out from your mommies basement. I dont wanna hear you EVER talk about "game ,women, " and shyte like that.

- 30 years?? What are you doing all day long? I know...Watching porn and playing games . And then hoping for shortcuts.

- be THANKFUL for not having a similarly degenerate woman who'll hold you back cause you're "satisfied " . Your biggest motivation is..what else ..p00sy. PATHETIC!!

-you can save money as a mofo!! No friends ,no women NO RENT and plenty of time!

- what kinda value do you offer to the world??? I am waiting.


Now be gone. Go fix your shyte. You are a fecking manchild who deserves what he gets right now:ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

You are totally taking my situation at face value and judging a book by its cover by this reply. What you said made me laugh as if you are in any position to make these demands from me. Did I ever say that I needed some hot and top tier girl to be my girlfriend? No, I never did and I’m self aware enough to know that girls like that would not even entertain the idea of dating a guy like me.

The fact they you’re saying that I wouldn’t even be able to get a homeless woman to date me is also ridiculous I don’t know what delusional reality you’re living in, but you need to wake up. A homeless woman will date pretty much any man and use him just to have hot meals and a roof over her head.

-I am working 2 jobs right now and weekends are 13 hour workdays. They are seasonal temporary jobs, but I am using the money to look for different areas with a lower cost of living to move to and also to pay for my next classes at school. I can take care of myself just fine without my parents, I’ve left home for weeks before and I’m still here, I don’t need them to stay alive.

-Who the f*ck are you to tell me to disable my account on here? I’m not doing that and I can post about whatever I want. You do not manage this site and you aren’t a moderator on here so you can’t ban me either. In case you haven’t noticed, I do make posts about progression and my username is literally needimprovement so maybe you shouldn’t jump to making accusations like that next time.

-Yes I watch porn and I’m addicted to it, I’m trying to quit but it has been a struggle. I don’t even play video games, I’m either working or I’m outside gardening every day as I want an agricultural career. Again, don’t make assumptions because I don’t spend all day watching porn and I don’t even wast my time gaming.

-Again, you are so out of touch and making assumptions because money and independence is more of a motivating factor to me than pu$$y. Yes I would like to have companionship and sex on a regular basis, but money matters more to me and always will, money is freedom.

-For the most part, I have no money saved despite living at home my whole life. I’m an idiot for not taking advantage of my living situation to save money and now I’m paying a big price for it.

-Why should I even bother telling you any why do you even care? You have already decided that I hold no value to the world. Whatever I say will not change your mind about that.

 

[needimprovement250]

Some will say I am a azzhole yadiya.

Oke. Lets say we do give him the "magic spell" that attracts a couple of h0es. You know what will happen?

These unfiltered/no filtered bytches will drop truth bombs on him that would make Hiroshima blush! Yes, women will play him like a fiddle, he'll feck like 6 times and instead of having 180 k in 8 ysars he'll be on cocaine in 8 years living literally on the streets.

I know that sosauve is SUPPOSED to be a seduction forum. But the fane has changed so bad that in order to even consider seduction /being seductive a man must do TONS of preparations .

This dude is yet another example of this. Its not like he's 17 or something right...he's 30. I had my first kid at 27. My cousin at 22.

I don't understand why men are so focused on women when they're not even able to carry themselves.

Oh yeah I’m totally gonna be a coke head and living on the streets if I found a woman who would sleep with me as I am right now, you really are delusional lol.

 

[needimprovement250]

So it is all noise in your head right now. No women actually rejected you because of inexperience. At least no one recently.

Why dont you get in the zone first? How are the female coworkers treating you? Are you talking to anyone?

The way you are thinking is like if I were to refuse to work for fear of catching covid. You have to accept the fact that there will always be risks with dating. There are some girls who will be endeared to the fact you are inexperiened.

No women have ever rejected me for being inexperienced. I’ve never even asked a woman out before. The only reason I got that one date that I did back when I was 21 was because she asked me out, and I told her I was inexperienced at the end of the night and it didn’t deter her at all, but yet I still have this mindset about my inexperience being a big issue.

Well my last 2 temporary jobs didn’t have any female coworkers in my age group, it was all retirees doing it as a post-retirement source of income and one of my current jobs has a female coworker that I talk to sometimes, but I talk to pretty much everyone who’s my coworker regardless of they’re a guy or a girl. One thing I’ve learned over the years is to stop looking at every female coworker as a potential girlfriend or dating option, you just have to talk to them and let whatever happens happen.

Yeah dating is one big risk when you’re a guy and you have to accept the pitfalls in order to get a girlfriend or even find casual sex. I wish I had someone to tell me this when I was younger, but even my own father taught me absolutely nothing about dating or girls. I would be more inclined to agree about some of them being endeared by my inexperience if I was still younger, but I don’t think that will be the case now that I’m 30.

 

[corrector]

No women have ever rejected me for being inexperienced. I’ve never even asked a woman out before. The only reason I got that one date that I did back when I was 21 was because she asked me out, and I told her I was inexperienced at the end of the night and it didn’t deter her at all, but yet I still have this mindset about my inexperience being a big issue.

Well my last 2 temporary jobs didn’t have any female coworkers in my age group, it was all retirees doing it as a post-retirement source of income and one of my current jobs has a female coworker that I talk to sometimes, but I talk to pretty much everyone who’s my coworker regardless of they’re a guy or a girl. One thing I’ve learned over the years is to stop looking at every female coworker as a potential girlfriend or dating option, you just have to talk to them and let whatever happens happen.

Yeah dating is one big risk when you’re a guy and you have to accept the pitfalls in order to get a girlfriend or even find casual sex. I wish I had someone to tell me this when I was younger, but even my own father taught me absolutely nothing about dating or girls. I would be more inclined to agree about some of them being endeared by my inexperience if I was still younger, but I don’t think that will be the case now that I’m 30.

You should test reality and try and date again. Otherwise, you just have a mental simulation based on second hand information from the internet but no personal experience. You need to fail at least once before you should even worry about that issue to prove its outside your mind.

Also, you could also get lucky and meet a girl, even at 30 years, who does not meet those negative assumptions that you believe they have about your inexperience.

 

[Gamisch]

You are totally taking my situation at face value and judging a book by its cover by this reply. What you said made me laugh as if you are in any position to make these demands from me. Did I ever say that I needed some hot and top tier girl to be my girlfriend? No, I never did and I’m self aware enough to know that girls like that would not even entertain the idea of dating a guy like me.

The fact they you’re saying that I wouldn’t even be able to get a homeless woman to date me is also ridiculous I don’t know what delusional reality you’re living in, but you need to wake up. A homeless woman will date pretty much any man and use him just to have hot meals and a roof over her head.

-I am working 2 jobs right now and weekends are 13 hour workdays. They are seasonal temporary jobs, but I am using the money to look for different areas with a lower cost of living to move to and also to pay for my next classes at school. I can take care of myself just fine without my parents, I’ve left home for weeks before and I’m still here, I don’t need them to stay alive.

-Who the f*ck are you to tell me to disable my account on here? I’m not doing that and I can post about whatever I want. You do not manage this site and you aren’t a moderator on here so you can’t ban me either. In case you haven’t noticed, I do make posts about progression and my username is literally needimprovement so maybe you shouldn’t jump to making accusations like that next time.

-Yes I watch porn and I’m addicted to it, I’m trying to quit but it has been a struggle. I don’t even play video games, I’m either working or I’m outside gardening every day as I want an agricultural career. Again, don’t make assumptions because I don’t spend all day watching porn and I don’t even wast my time gaming.

-Again, you are so out of touch and making assumptions because money and independence is more of a motivating factor to me than pu$$y. Yes I would like to have companionship and sex on a regular basis, but money matters more to me and always will, money is freedom.

-For the most part, I have no money saved despite living at home my whole life. I’m an idiot for not taking advantage of my living situation to save money and now I’m paying a big price for it.

-Why should I even bother telling you any why do you even care? You have already decided that I hold no value to the world. Whatever I say will not change your mind about that.

Lolllll

Keep doing what you are doing..30 year old man child that lives at home, wondering why no woman will ever want you with that shytty attitude. Newsflash kiddo; I've been with more women than you can be with if you reincarnated twice haha.

There is no shortcut in life, and instead if getting mad you should use my post as (neccesarily) fuel. Toughing up..

I got news for ya : if you think i am delusional you'll be in for a world of hurt IF you will ever manage to convince an hb4 to even consider your existence. This is the djojo, i am just sparring with you soft azz.

You might hold value to your parent's, but even that part is doubtful. Bet ya father wouldn't mind you leaving the house...you shouldn't even be here discussing game. Have ya missed yhe part where i said preparation needss to be done first? No, a homeless woman wont even want you now, as your results tell ya..zero women want you if you haven't noticed! Null. Kein. None.

I am not gonna argue with a manchild , that time is better spent on redecorating my crib, my garden needs a make over, i am chasing pr"s in the gym, my work place/music studio needs a new look, i have 5 people waiting for me to fix their crib, and /or stuff, I am throwing 4 events between now and juli, oh and almost forgot, I am juggling a few h0es in the weekend.

If you were smart you'd listen to me. If you think i am an azzhole..well again, you'll be in for a world of hurt homie..women are RUTHLESS nowadays lol.

I'll be here to watch it all tho..good luck with yourself!!


Your response tells me all i need to know. I'll refrain from commentary and simply enjoy these pathetic threads while eating popcorn

 

[Gamisch]

Oh yeah I’m totally gonna be a coke head and living on the streets if I found a woman who would sleep with me as I am right now, you really are delusional lol.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

What on earth did I just read, take this mess somewhere else bro jeez

 

[bat soup]

Even if you're a virgin I'm sure you know which holes to stick it in, so what does it matter?

 

[needimprovement250]

You should test reality and try and date again. Otherwise, you just have a mental simulation based on second hand information from the internet but no personal experience. You need to fail at least once before you should even worry about that issue to prove its outside your mind.

Also, you could also get lucky and meet a girl, even at 30 years, who does not meet those negative assumptions that you believe they have about your inexperience.

Yeah I agree. That’s exactly what I have and it reminds me of that incel YouTuber Marshall Mathers the 4th that I’ve talked about on here. He said before that he hasn’t interacted with women in over a decade, so all of his negative assumptions about women are solely from what he sees on the internet. I don’t think I should be honest if the past relationships topic comes up though, I think that I should still avoid it if I can and only reveal it if I have no choice because I would rather not be proven right about this since I feel like I’ll get a lot worse.

Maybe, but I feel like there’s really bad odds that I’ll meet a girl who doesn’t meet those negative assumptions. I would love to be wrong about that, but I have a gut feeling that it will be an issue to most of them. There’s also the option of going to that sex club in my area to try and get more experience, but I remember you saying before that you were against that idea.

 

[needimprovement250]

Lolllll

Keep doing what you are doing..30 year old man child that lives at home, wondering why no woman will ever want you with that shytty attitude. Newsflash kiddo; I've been with more women than you can be with if you reincarnated twice haha.

There is no shortcut in life, and instead if getting mad you should use my post as (neccesarily) fuel. Toughing up..

I got news for ya : if you think i am delusional you'll be in for a world of hurt IF you will ever manage to convince an hb4 to even consider your existence. This is the djojo, i am just sparring with you soft azz.

You might hold value to your parent's, but even that part is doubtful. Bet ya father wouldn't mind you leaving the house...you shouldn't even be here discussing game. Have ya missed yhe part where i said preparation needss to be done first? No, a homeless woman wont even want you now, as your results tell ya..zero women want you if you haven't noticed! Null. Kein. None.

I am not gonna argue with a manchild , that time is better spent on redecorating my crib, my garden needs a make over, i am chasing pr"s in the gym, my work place/music studio needs a new look, i have 5 people waiting for me to fix their crib, and /or stuff, I am throwing 4 events between now and juli, oh and almost forgot, I am juggling a few h0es in the weekend.

If you were smart you'd listen to me. If you think i am an azzhole..well again, you'll be in for a world of hurt homie..women are RUTHLESS nowadays lol.

I'll be here to watch it all tho..good luck with yourself!!


Your response tells me all i need to know. I'll refrain from commentary and simply enjoy these pathetic threads while eating popcorn

Well what a salty little b*tch you turned into

Oh I will keep doing what I’m doing, working myself to the bone so that I can get the money I need to leave my parents house and have my own place in an area that’s cheaper than where I live now. Also in case you missed it, a recent research report showed that 45% of young adults still live at home so if you’re gonna call me a man child, I guess you have a lot of other people who are in this situation to say that to as well. You really think I care how many women you’ve been with? That gloating has no affect on me and I’m fully aware that most men have been with more women than me, so you’re gonna have to try harder than that if you wanna make me upset.

You call me soft azz, but yet you go on this crybaby rant of yours where you pathetically try and brag about things that I could care less about. My father definitely wouldn’t mind me leaving the house considering the fact that a couple years ago he got arrested for starting a fist fight with me. I’m not even discussing game lol, I literally just made this thread because I thought the video I shared had good advice for inexperienced guys, other than that I’ve just responded to what other people have said on this thread.

Have you missed the part where I’m working to improve myself and get some stuff that needs to be done first completed? No, I guess you didn’t and got all triggered instead. I’m never even around women lol, you’re claiming that no women want me when I don’t use dating apps and never even encounter any women, so you are again making an assumption that isn’t even accurate since no women are turning me away as I’m not even around any in the first place.

You’re running away because you know that you’ve already lost this argument. You say that you have all of those things going on, but here you are having a tirade against me, so you clearly have nothing better to do with your life in reality

I’ve been warned about toxic people in this forum and you’re definitely one of them. You’re not even giving hard truths, you’re just trolling if anything. There are people on here who genuinely are helpful and want to see others succeed and others like you have nothing better to do than try to flex on others here in the most pathetic and cringey ways possible.

Yeah you’ll refrain from commentary because you’re a pu$$y who’s running away with his tail between his legs lmao. Keep telling yourself that to keep your dignity intact, coward.

 

[needimprovement250]

What on earth did I just read, take this mess somewhere else bro jeez

Blame that other dude for starting an argument, I just wanted to have a discussion on issues facing adult aged men with no experience.

Even if you're a virgin I'm sure you know which holes to stick it in, so what does it matter?

Haha, I’m not a virgin as I already said before but my body count is very low and I’ve never been in a relationship. For the longest time, I’ve assumed that this will be very off putting to most women.

 

[corrector]

Yeah I agree. That’s exactly what I have and it reminds me of that incel YouTuber Marshall Mathers the 4th that I’ve talked about on here. He said before that he hasn’t interacted with women in over a decade, so all of his negative assumptions about women are solely from what he sees on the internet. I don’t think I should be honest if the past relationships topic comes up though, I think that I should still avoid it if I can and only reveal it if I have no choice because I would rather not be proven right about this since I feel like I’ll get a lot worse.

Maybe, but I feel like there’s really bad odds that I’ll meet a girl who doesn’t meet those negative assumptions. I would love to be wrong about that, but I have a gut feeling that it will be an issue to most of them. There’s also the option of going to that sex club in my area to try and get more experience, but I remember you saying before that you were against that idea.

Odds mean nothing to someone who got lucky. You dont try then you cant win and the odds are zero by default.

 

[Gamisch]

Well what a salty little b*tch you turned into

Oh I will keep doing what I’m doing, working myself to the bone so that I can get the money I need to leave my parents house and have my own place in an area that’s cheaper than where I live now. Also in case you missed it, a recent research report showed that 45% of young adults still live at home so if you’re gonna call me a man child, I guess you have a lot of other people who are in this situation to say that to as well. You really think I care how many women you’ve been with? That gloating has no affect on me and I’m fully aware that most men have been with more women than me, so you’re gonna have to try harder than that if you wanna make me upset.

You call me soft azz, but yet you go on this crybaby rant of yours where you pathetically try and brag about things that I could care less about. My father definitely wouldn’t mind me leaving the house considering the fact that a couple years ago he got arrested for starting a fist fight with me. I’m not even discussing game lol, I literally just made this thread because I thought the video I shared had good advice for inexperienced guys, other than that I’ve just responded to what other people have said on this thread.

Have you missed the part where I’m working to improve myself and get some stuff that needs to be done first completed? No, I guess you didn’t and got all triggered instead. I’m never even around women lol, you’re claiming that no women want me when I don’t use dating apps and never even encounter any women, so you are again making an assumption that isn’t even accurate since no women are turning me away as I’m not even around any in the first place.

You’re running away because you know that you’ve already lost this argument. You say that you have all of those things going on, but here you are having a tirade against me, so you clearly have nothing better to do with your life in reality

I’ve been warned about toxic people in this forum and you’re definitely one of them. You’re not even giving hard truths, you’re just trolling if anything. There are people on here who genuinely are helpful and want to see others succeed and others like you have nothing better to do than try to flex on others here in the most pathetic and cringey ways possible.

Yeah you’ll refrain from commentary because you’re a pu$$y who’s running away with his tail between his legs lmao. Keep telling yourself that to keep your dignity intact, coward.

I am in the 55% that does.

I am in the 20% that gets

I am in 5 % that will

I have no dog in this fight bruh. I typed that oit to help your soft azz grow some skin, this is how we talk amongst ourselves where I'm from. And its oke. Nobody will ever be harder on me than I am on myself.

I'll be 1/10 th as toxic as the next woman ,you'll finally get. As useal, everyone is saying that you are a *****, I'm just bringing it the hardest so you get back at specifically me..you better stfu , sit back, follow my advice and make the progress you're crying about and look for so desperately...

You expect sympathy? Go to reddit !

But keep crying me that river.

Mandatory:

 

[NealIRC]

Because she does not want to spoil or defile you? It makes her into a nasty bad girl that does not respect the guy if she does that? Suppose its a bad first sex session? She will be forever etched in his mind.

I had a bad after experience with an escort I used in 2014 and the jarring experience would make me think twice before ever going there again.

Who said that? ...

 

[bat soup]

Blame that other dude for starting an argument, I just wanted to have a discussion on issues facing adult aged men with no experience.

Haha, I’m not a virgin as I already said before but my body count is very low and I’ve never been in a relationship. For the longest time, I’ve assumed that this will be very off putting to most women.

I don't know why you'd ever feel the need to tell them.

 

[NealIRC]

I don't know why you'd ever feel the need to tell them.

To test them.