Tip #3: Kino

De La Soul

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It's a badly-kept secret.
"What is kino?"
Kino is affectionate touching.

"Why is kino important?"
Kino is what makes the difference between being put in the "Friends Zone" or being in the "Sexual Zone". It drives girls wild! No kidding. If done correctly kino can be an extremely effective tool in attraction. Some people even say kino is the MOST IMPORTANT element of attraction.

"Where am I allowed to touch them?"
Virtually anywhere! Cheek (face or otherwise), back, leg, arm, hair, shoulders, fingers, neck, ears, tits... Just make sure you've kino'd a girl already, before you go for the ass or boobs.

"I'm afraid girls won't like it if I touch them. Can I get by without kino?"
Only if you want to put in a lot more effort when getting girls. The great thing about kino is that it is so easy, so effortless - it's a shortcut that actually works. It bypasses all the other bullsh1t and makes you a more sexual guy.
The thing with kino is that you just have to trust that it works; and trust you should, this stuff has been tried and tested, it is highly effective. I have to admit that I was once afraid to use kino. Then eventually I got sick of hesitating and I just went for it! I started out nervously but the more times you use kino, the easier it becomes, and the better you get at it.
GIRLS LOVE KINO! It's what distinguishes you from a Nice Guy with no balls, and makes you a confident sexual guy.

"Do you have any other important tips?"
- Don't wait for her to initiate kino. You should endeavour to make the first move! However, if she does initiate kino before you get a chance to, don't fret, it's just a very good sign that she's in to you.

- If you are a little timid about kino, try what DarkDream calls "pre-kino". It's kino without touching. This means that you are "invading" her space without touching her. For example, if you are both laughing, lean close to her. If she has no problems with this (i.e. does not react negatively), feel free to commence kino.

- When starting kino, make it very subtle, almost imperceptible. Light brushes against the hand or arm are perfect. You can do these light touches while walking, or in conversation to emphasize a point.

- If her responses are positive, get bolder. Try to keep it non-sexual until she initiates kino.

- Don't come on too hot and heavy with kino too early. This is a common AFC mistake

- When you kino a girl, do it calmy, slowly, and smile (unless it is one of THOSE moments)

- Use kino as frequently as you can. It helps you relax into the idea of it, that is, you won't feel WEIRD about it. Use it on anyone and everyone (female of course), you're teacher, you're relatives - anyone! Just get used to it so it becomes second nature.

"TESTIFY!!"

- T Dog: "If she reacts badly, like pulling away, opening a larger area of personal space between you two, or spraying you with mace and then kicking you in the balls, then chances are your kino was unwelcomed, too early, too clumsy, or she is just not interested in you. Actions speak louder than words. However, no damage is really done, so don’t worry about it. In fact you just did yourself a favor and found out what her interest really is. My advice would be to thank her for an interesting conversation and then move on."

- T Dog: "An example of the progression from non-sexual to sexual kino is as follows. An innocent or accidental brush of the hands. A point is made and you touch her arm to cement that point, you “share” a moment. She touches your arm and laughs. You excuse yourself to the restroom and as you scoot by her you place you hands on her hips. When you come back you place one hand on her and you brush by. She leans into you as you do it. You sit down, her touch is freer. She places her hand on your arm a bit longer than she really needs to, but she wants to tell you about something funny she saw or thought of while you were gone. When she is done she removes her hand and stares into your eyes. You let that silence hang in the air as you digest what she told you.

You smoothly place your hand over hers, in effect lightly pinning it to the table and say, Let’s go somewhere more blah, blah, blah, and then you look away (hand still on hers) and call the waiter over. The point is made and you remove your hand."

- bclarke675: "The way I got myself more comfortable with kino was by casually touching women I was interested in on the shoulder or back while I was passing them to get somewhere in a club, especially if it's crowded. Also reaching over and touching their hand or arm when making a funny point helps. It just adds emphasis and makes the joke more personal (a shared feeling).
If you find the woman's hair attractive, you can go for the hair touch, but keep in mind that this is also the beginning of the "kiss test", so you should have built some rapport with her before making this move. If she'll let you lean into her hair or ear, you're probably to that point.
Also, if you're seeing someone you've seen before, but aren't close with, a gentle handshake (almost a hand hold) is a good way to go."

- Freewill: "Once you know the girl, and start to get her interested in you, this is kind of a way to play hard to get. She's interested in you, and you deprive her of physical contact (you have to have used kino effectively previously before this can work). Therefore, because she CAN'T HAVE the physical contact, she desires it. So SHE initiates double the contact to try to get your attention. As I say, it’s a means of playing hard to get."

- THIAGO BRAZIL: "Since I have been introduced to KINO techniques, touching people, especially girls, and business situations when I need to be trusted, my success improved more than 100%."

- Shiftkey: "Some flirty kino things I've noticed myself doing to girls are bumping into her, purposely blocking her way, touching her shoulder to say hello or good bye, putting little pieces of trash in her back pocket (seriously!), touching the back of her neck when my hands are cold, touching her waist or shoulders when passing her, poking, and tickling.
I used to be the same way as you. But I started making an effort to do kino, slowly at first, and now it's definitely a part of my personality."

- Trickynick: "When a pause came up in the conversation I slowly reached across the table and clasped my hand around hers. I stroked her palm from underneath as I complemented a ring she was wearing. She seemed quite welcoming me touching her hand, I took this as a sign of a good interest level.
I stood pretty close to her while we were smoking and I reached up by her temple and preened her hair back around her ear and said, "That's a really nice earring." The thanked me for the compliment and again seemed to like the touch."

- Jester: "Play keep away, take something from her, and make her chase after u to get it back. Of course, you should block her so she has to jump on you to get it.
Got this one from Seinfeld, IF YOU KNOW THE GIRL, try feeling the fabric of her shirt and guess what it is."

- crowes22: "I missed a lot of opportunities by not being sexual, thinking it was rude. I don't think you have to talk sex, can if you want, but it can backfire. I prefer kino, it works wonders I think. With it you can avoid talking sex and maybe offending while you have still let the girl know you wanna fukk, very important, I wanna kick myself for not letting some know I wanted to fukk, won't happen again though. These days I let them know I wanna fukk and don't pursue, let them chase, then fukk."

This post is for quick reference especially for newbies, and for those needing reminding of what kino is all about.

De La Soul

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Here's something.

Doc Love says that using kino on a girl will lower her interest level, and says to wait until she touches YOU.

Who's right?

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Hey BGMan,

As of lately I've seen a lot of guys here who follow Doc Love's system very strictly. I don't know what the appeal is but the system isn't exactly my style. With me I follow a cross between David DeAngelo's C&F and Juggler's seduction style.

Doc Love says initiating kino first will lower her IL. That's way off. Kino is a very powerful tool and should be implemented as soon as possible to get her comfortable with you touching her. Being a challenge and a mystery can only go so far. Don't let her think you're afraid of making a move. It's all about finding what works for you. Don't do what someone else says because it works for them, find out for yourself.

"If your rap is strong it can't go wrong."

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Yes, I remember reading something like that when I was new to all this DJing so it probably was Doc Love. A long time before I discovered the forum...
But, once I had a girl tell me after the 3rd date: "You can touch me! My skin is not poisonous, you know" - was that high IL or something :D :cool:
I wonder why she didn't touch me if her IL was that high... But that's enough for me to believe in the power of kino! Do it!
 

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Another Testimony

I used kino on this one chick this weekend, worked like a charm.

Me and 2 friends are cruisin around and meet these 3 girls. They tell us that it is their friend's 18th birthday and they are going to get a hotel tonight. Anyway we get the number and jet to our original plans then called them up later. So we get to the hotel and we're there chillin and I'm thinkin what a bust because nothing was happening. Anyway, time goes by and we're on the bed. Lights go off. At this point I havent gotten any play what so ever, but I pretty sure she was interested. She was laying right next to me barely touching. Here is where KINO comes in. So I just slowly glide my fingertips up and down on the outside of her thigh. No complaints, so do that for about 15 mins, at this point I am almost touching the snatch. AND WHEN I DID, MAN WAS IT SOAKED. She then started kissing me and the finger banging begun. This ultimately lead to great sucess if you know what I mean.
 

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good tips. I just hope i dont get slapped into next week or something:D when i try it. but if i follow what you posted, then i should be fine.
 

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you should be using kino all the time. but dont use it if you get the sensation that the girl is not liking it (body language, etc) then quit it.
 

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Originally posted by daniel
Yes, I remember reading something like that when I was new to all this DJing so it probably was Doc Love. A long time before I discovered the forum...
But, once I had a girl tell me after the 3rd date: "You can touch me! My skin is not poisonous, you know" - was that high IL or something :D :cool:
I wonder why she didn't touch me if her IL was that high... But that's enough for me to believe in the power of kino! Do it!
Doc Love would probably say that your NOT touching her was making her seriously want you.

But obviously he's off when he says to NEXT girls that don't touch you at all on the first date!

Crafty Lefty:

I agree that Kino should be done if the girl obviously likes you a lot. Maybe Doc's advice on not touching her is more appropriate when her interest is so-so?

BGMan
 

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i think that when doc love is saying not to initiate kino and to let her do it, he is referring to older women, minimum age being in their 20s, and that for younger guys, initiating kino would be more preferable because girls in their 20s and above are way different and react differently then younger girls
im just throwing my ideas out here
what do you all think about this?
agree? disagree? unsure? don't really care? think i should die?
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Originally posted by BGMan
I agree that Kino should be done if the girl obviously likes you a lot. Maybe Doc's advice on not touching her is more appropriate when her interest is so-so?
Hey BGMan,

When you said it is more appropriate to not touch her when her interest is so-so, well I disagree. Many of the women I just meet take some time to warm up to me. But by using kino on these so-so girls I get to find out right then whether or not she's comfortable with me touching her. If she responds in a bad way I'll more than likely move on to another chick. There's no point in wasting time with a girl who doesn't like you. But if I see her actions and posture towards me are more open than before then I know I'm getting somewhere with her. The sooner you find out the better. My time is more important spent on advancing the current situation and not waiting for her to magically like me.

"If your rap is strong it can't go wrong."

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Okay, you're making sense here.

Although here's a tip when doing kino: Don't THINK about it. And, make sure you don't have sweaty hands! ;)

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