sageproduct
Banned
Obviously I'm in total NC now. Deleted her on Facebook and everything.
She's 23. Grad student. Easily a 7 but does not think herself hot. Very sure she is monogamous, she was in 4 LTR's before meeting me. Started out w/VERY high interest level. I'm a lifelong AFC who started daygame direct approaching like a madman 6 months ago, so I've got competent game now but still many beta inner insecurities.
Timeline:
9/5 I cold approach her, GREAT interaction, # close, I've already got one-itis. Next day we text, then when I set up date she reluctantly says she moved here 2 weeks ago and has long-distance bf. I wish her good luck and NC.
Mon 10/1 I break NC and send text. She is VERY responsive and suggests we hang out. Turns out she and long distance bf broke up two weeks prior.
Wed 10/3 First date, goes GREAT, kiss w/in 45 minutes, ends at my place. sageproduct achieves two milestones: sees titties and fingers vag for the first time in his life. Inexperience is obvious to girl has sage fails to take her bra off by himself. When everything is off except panties, sage tells her she is really cool and that they should take things slow, and that this is as far as they go that night.
Sun 10/7 She sleeps over for the first time.
Wed 10/10 sageproduct gets a handjob for the first time in his life
Sun 10/14 For the FIRST time she denies a date request for same night. But she feels bad so she DRIVES OVER AND DROPS OFF COOKIES FOR SAGE.
Wed 10/17 sage is pvssywhipped. He fwcks up big time and shows up at her place w/a rose and asks her to "be my girl". She says she just got out of LTR and is not looking for anything serious. Says she will see ex on Tgiving, Xmas, Spring break, etc.
Thurs 10/18 Sage goes NC. Does not respond to 3 texts she sends that day.
Fri 10/19 Sage breaks NC. She is excited to hear from him. She sleeps over, spending from 10pm to 4pm the next day. She jerks off sage again. Sage asks for bj once but she does not want to do that yet.
Sage also commits many AFC crimes: admits he's never had a relationship, tells her how he knew she was special when they first met, tells her he could see them still having this special connection 15 yrs from now (yes i know it was fwcking stupid for whatever reason i said that), and in regards to situation with ex bf, that he'll be whatever she wants him to be. She says "that doesn't sound fair to you" sage responds "well i won't wait around for you"
Wed 10/24 Sage takes her out to dinner for the first time. He ups sexual tension, and when she sleeps over the making out is much more intense. He makes her cvm 3 times through fingering and dry humping, she jerks him off. All parties were completely naked, and afterward sage wonders if maybe she wanted him to f her.
Sage accidentally turns off her alarm the next morning, causing her to miss class. This is very bad, but she repeatedly tells sage not to worry, that it's fine. It is, but this leaves a bad taste.
Fri 10/26 Sage and girl had been texting every day. This is first time a day goes by w/no texting.
Sun 10/27 Sage invites her over. He is surprised when she declines in order to study for a big test Friday (11/3), but excuse seems legit.
Wed 10/30 Sage tells her he is coming over Thursday night, night before big test, to "help her fall asleep." Stupid request, she declines. Legit excuse but sage is butthurt and tells her "she won't hear from him until after friday." He goes NC, but telling her that breaks the point of NC.
Sat 11/3 Sage breaks NC. She's excited to hear from him, he goes over to her place, she ditches plans of going to a party to hang out w/him for 5 hours. She is on her period and her roommate is home, so nothing past kissy kissy. She drives him back to his place, but refuses to come over and spend the night.
Sun 11/4 Sage invites her over. She declines, saying its girls movie night.
Mon 11/5 Sage invites her on "an adventure" saying he is bored. She declines, saying she has lots of work to do. But makes a counter offer of going to the museum the next day, which sage cannot do.
Wed 11/7 For the second time, a day of no texting.
Fri 11/9 Text convo. It's kind of "catching up" because we haven't seen each other as often lately. Sage tells her he is doing really good and busy w/hobbies. Then asks for a date on Sat. She declines saying girls night but counter-offers for Sun. Sage, not wanting to fit in her frame, says "maybe" for Sun.
Sun 11/11 Sage is going to movies with dad and sister. He invites girl to either go to movies w/them or hang later. She declines, saying she has work to do but possibly later. Text throughout day, but neither party mentions seeing each other. She does seed many future date ideas, such as longboarding, hot dog place, tunnel exploring, and sage's increasingly pvssy-whipped mind desperately clings on to that as a sign that she's still highly interested.
Mon 11/12 She texts sage a question at night. Sage ignores, thinking he is "regaining ground".
Tues 11/13 Sage calls her at night. She is happy to pick up. Sage asks her on date Friday, she says "maybe", saying her friends have plans to either see a movie or go to happy hour. Sage later texts her saying Friday is now unavailable to him, but asks for date Wed night. She replies "perhaps, but i really need to study"
Wed 11/14 Text, sage appears distant. When he reveals he made other plans for the night, she stops responding. Sage calls her an hour later, she is excited for him to come over.
Sage spends an hour at her place. Does not go past making out as roommate is home. She brings up having "dilemma" w/ex. She is going to see him over tgiving. Is worried things are not fair to sage, says she knows it won't work out w/the ex but doesn't know what to do.
Sage is supportive, says how her ex must be amazing guy, dispels her beliefs of it "not being fair to sage" saying that sage is dating other ppl, not waiting around for her, and might not always be available. Tells her she's only known sage for 1.5 months and that he doesn't want to pressure into anything.
This whole time she repeatedly says sage is being incredibly nice and selfless, and keeps asking how the hell he has never had a gf since he is so nice. Sage doesn't answer.
She drops him off that night. Sage scratches his head, wondering if he's being a doormat.
Thurs 11/15 She goes ice cold. Responds to sage's texts, but very slowly and succintly.
Fri 11/16 Sage keeps pressing. He is getting so mad with one-itis he cannot even function. Decides he needs ALL of her or NONE of her. Also makes the "read", a stupid pvssy-whipped read, that she is only acting cold bc she senses he has gone cold, and only brought up her ex to see his reaction.
Sage calls her at 6pm. She is about to go out to the movie. Sage wants her to come over so he can make his AFC romantic declaration of love, but doesn't mention this and just plain tells her to call him after the movie.
Sage is at home and so emotional he can't think straight. He does manage to arrange a date w/another girl the next day though. Sage falls asleep.
Sage wakes up at midnight. One-itis has not called. Sage throws a fit of insanity at his home, is an absolute mess.
Sat 11/17 (Today)
I call her at 1pm. No answer. Leave voicemail saying I need to talk to her, and to call me back.
She calls me back 15 min later. I tell her to come over now, she obliges.
she comes, i bring her inside
we step inside
she starts saying, "so what's up?"
i ignore her, move in, hug then kiss passionately
this goes on for a couple minutes, i'm totally in the moment
then i say
"i'm not selfless. i just didn't know what i want"
pause
"now i know..i just want you. i don't want you to see your ex"
she gave a noncommittal response
me: "you need time to think about it?"
her: "maybe..."
hug some more
me: "i don't care how great your ex is. ditch him. be with me."
her: "you make a very tempting argument..."
pause
her: "i can't do that though..i'm not looking for anything serious"
pause, i start moving away, hold her hands
me: "then we're done here"
her: "ok..."
i open the door for her, she leaves
Sage is calm because he is the kind who experiences delayed emotional reactions. He goes to the computer, deletes her on Facebook, and comes to Sosuave to type all of this out.
She's 23. Grad student. Easily a 7 but does not think herself hot. Very sure she is monogamous, she was in 4 LTR's before meeting me. Started out w/VERY high interest level. I'm a lifelong AFC who started daygame direct approaching like a madman 6 months ago, so I've got competent game now but still many beta inner insecurities.
Timeline:
9/5 I cold approach her, GREAT interaction, # close, I've already got one-itis. Next day we text, then when I set up date she reluctantly says she moved here 2 weeks ago and has long-distance bf. I wish her good luck and NC.
Mon 10/1 I break NC and send text. She is VERY responsive and suggests we hang out. Turns out she and long distance bf broke up two weeks prior.
Wed 10/3 First date, goes GREAT, kiss w/in 45 minutes, ends at my place. sageproduct achieves two milestones: sees titties and fingers vag for the first time in his life. Inexperience is obvious to girl has sage fails to take her bra off by himself. When everything is off except panties, sage tells her she is really cool and that they should take things slow, and that this is as far as they go that night.
Sun 10/7 She sleeps over for the first time.
Wed 10/10 sageproduct gets a handjob for the first time in his life
Sun 10/14 For the FIRST time she denies a date request for same night. But she feels bad so she DRIVES OVER AND DROPS OFF COOKIES FOR SAGE.
Wed 10/17 sage is pvssywhipped. He fwcks up big time and shows up at her place w/a rose and asks her to "be my girl". She says she just got out of LTR and is not looking for anything serious. Says she will see ex on Tgiving, Xmas, Spring break, etc.
Thurs 10/18 Sage goes NC. Does not respond to 3 texts she sends that day.
Fri 10/19 Sage breaks NC. She is excited to hear from him. She sleeps over, spending from 10pm to 4pm the next day. She jerks off sage again. Sage asks for bj once but she does not want to do that yet.
Sage also commits many AFC crimes: admits he's never had a relationship, tells her how he knew she was special when they first met, tells her he could see them still having this special connection 15 yrs from now (yes i know it was fwcking stupid for whatever reason i said that), and in regards to situation with ex bf, that he'll be whatever she wants him to be. She says "that doesn't sound fair to you" sage responds "well i won't wait around for you"
Wed 10/24 Sage takes her out to dinner for the first time. He ups sexual tension, and when she sleeps over the making out is much more intense. He makes her cvm 3 times through fingering and dry humping, she jerks him off. All parties were completely naked, and afterward sage wonders if maybe she wanted him to f her.
Sage accidentally turns off her alarm the next morning, causing her to miss class. This is very bad, but she repeatedly tells sage not to worry, that it's fine. It is, but this leaves a bad taste.
Fri 10/26 Sage and girl had been texting every day. This is first time a day goes by w/no texting.
Sun 10/27 Sage invites her over. He is surprised when she declines in order to study for a big test Friday (11/3), but excuse seems legit.
Wed 10/30 Sage tells her he is coming over Thursday night, night before big test, to "help her fall asleep." Stupid request, she declines. Legit excuse but sage is butthurt and tells her "she won't hear from him until after friday." He goes NC, but telling her that breaks the point of NC.
Sat 11/3 Sage breaks NC. She's excited to hear from him, he goes over to her place, she ditches plans of going to a party to hang out w/him for 5 hours. She is on her period and her roommate is home, so nothing past kissy kissy. She drives him back to his place, but refuses to come over and spend the night.
Sun 11/4 Sage invites her over. She declines, saying its girls movie night.
Mon 11/5 Sage invites her on "an adventure" saying he is bored. She declines, saying she has lots of work to do. But makes a counter offer of going to the museum the next day, which sage cannot do.
Wed 11/7 For the second time, a day of no texting.
Fri 11/9 Text convo. It's kind of "catching up" because we haven't seen each other as often lately. Sage tells her he is doing really good and busy w/hobbies. Then asks for a date on Sat. She declines saying girls night but counter-offers for Sun. Sage, not wanting to fit in her frame, says "maybe" for Sun.
Sun 11/11 Sage is going to movies with dad and sister. He invites girl to either go to movies w/them or hang later. She declines, saying she has work to do but possibly later. Text throughout day, but neither party mentions seeing each other. She does seed many future date ideas, such as longboarding, hot dog place, tunnel exploring, and sage's increasingly pvssy-whipped mind desperately clings on to that as a sign that she's still highly interested.
Mon 11/12 She texts sage a question at night. Sage ignores, thinking he is "regaining ground".
Tues 11/13 Sage calls her at night. She is happy to pick up. Sage asks her on date Friday, she says "maybe", saying her friends have plans to either see a movie or go to happy hour. Sage later texts her saying Friday is now unavailable to him, but asks for date Wed night. She replies "perhaps, but i really need to study"
Wed 11/14 Text, sage appears distant. When he reveals he made other plans for the night, she stops responding. Sage calls her an hour later, she is excited for him to come over.
Sage spends an hour at her place. Does not go past making out as roommate is home. She brings up having "dilemma" w/ex. She is going to see him over tgiving. Is worried things are not fair to sage, says she knows it won't work out w/the ex but doesn't know what to do.
Sage is supportive, says how her ex must be amazing guy, dispels her beliefs of it "not being fair to sage" saying that sage is dating other ppl, not waiting around for her, and might not always be available. Tells her she's only known sage for 1.5 months and that he doesn't want to pressure into anything.
This whole time she repeatedly says sage is being incredibly nice and selfless, and keeps asking how the hell he has never had a gf since he is so nice. Sage doesn't answer.
She drops him off that night. Sage scratches his head, wondering if he's being a doormat.
Thurs 11/15 She goes ice cold. Responds to sage's texts, but very slowly and succintly.
Fri 11/16 Sage keeps pressing. He is getting so mad with one-itis he cannot even function. Decides he needs ALL of her or NONE of her. Also makes the "read", a stupid pvssy-whipped read, that she is only acting cold bc she senses he has gone cold, and only brought up her ex to see his reaction.
Sage calls her at 6pm. She is about to go out to the movie. Sage wants her to come over so he can make his AFC romantic declaration of love, but doesn't mention this and just plain tells her to call him after the movie.
Sage is at home and so emotional he can't think straight. He does manage to arrange a date w/another girl the next day though. Sage falls asleep.
Sage wakes up at midnight. One-itis has not called. Sage throws a fit of insanity at his home, is an absolute mess.
Sat 11/17 (Today)
I call her at 1pm. No answer. Leave voicemail saying I need to talk to her, and to call me back.
She calls me back 15 min later. I tell her to come over now, she obliges.
she comes, i bring her inside
we step inside
she starts saying, "so what's up?"
i ignore her, move in, hug then kiss passionately
this goes on for a couple minutes, i'm totally in the moment
then i say
"i'm not selfless. i just didn't know what i want"
pause
"now i know..i just want you. i don't want you to see your ex"
she gave a noncommittal response
me: "you need time to think about it?"
her: "maybe..."
hug some more
me: "i don't care how great your ex is. ditch him. be with me."
her: "you make a very tempting argument..."
pause
her: "i can't do that though..i'm not looking for anything serious"
pause, i start moving away, hold her hands
me: "then we're done here"
her: "ok..."
i open the door for her, she leaves
Sage is calm because he is the kind who experiences delayed emotional reactions. He goes to the computer, deletes her on Facebook, and comes to Sosuave to type all of this out.
