Time Limit

[ketostix]

Met a girl monday.

Went out with her tuesday.

She ASKED if she could stay the night after basically pushing herself into me but waiting for me to make the "real" move. We made out, but I had more fun talking to her all night and watching hockey. Yay a girl that REALLY likes hockey! She stayed but I didn't attempt sex. In the morning she actually said "thanks for not trying to have sex with me." We really did talk incessantly all night long building hell of a lot of rapport and developed several inside jokes.

Thursday she came with me and 2 friends to play pool and such. Went back to her place and sexed afterwards. Have had sex two more times since then.

I don't see the big deal. There's no rulebook. Another girl recently I had sex with the first night, woke up to her touching me in my special no-no place wanting more, had sex again, and she left and had zero interest in seeing me again for some reason. She feels like a hor?

Hmm which is better? The girl who now regularly gives lots of sex, offers massages, and wants to buy me stuff and is always trying to email, text, and call me or the girl who gave it twice in an 8 hour period and left forever?

I really don't think there's any hard rule to this. Can't you tell when you're really vibing with a girl and just KNOW you can get it from her when you want? When you know you can have it, it doesn't seem so pressing to have it. She'll still be there and likely be thankful to you for the pleasurable tease of making HER wait.

unless of course you just want some one night thing. http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bang





yeah, that... don't you just vibe and KNOW with pretty much certainty whether she likes you and/or wants to sex you? It's such a powerful feeling. I don't ever remember being told no when i go for a kiss or for sex because they really do make it fairly obvious if you're not totally oblivious.

I'm betting the first girl gave it up still very close to within that "8 hour" window, and it's clear she would've done it even sooner. Same thing with the second girl. So in both those cases they fit the rule. The point is a girl is going to be willing to have sex within under 8 hours, or she's most likely never going to. Wheher you electing to hit it as soon as you can within that window is the best way to develop something more than a ONS or not is a whole different issue.

 

[Colossus]

I'm wondering...is there a time limit on sex with a woman? How long is that window of opportunity open to get her in bed?


Personally I believe that if you aren't naked with a woman within the first 8 hours of actually being in the same room as her, you never will be.

Funny, I was just thinking about this.

I dont know about the 8-hour rule, but I am a firm believer in striking while the iron is hot.

In other words, dont pass up a clear opportunity. What's worse: the regret of going for it and getting rejected, or not going for it and never getting that opportunity again?

If your desire for her is so-so, and you are presented with an opportunity, then you take it or leave it. But if the two of you have the hots for each other, dont play the 'make her wait' card. Life is too short.

 

[youngwilliam]

There is no rule. Depends on how good your game is.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Can you explain why Fransico plz.

Ever go to the grocery store when you're hungry? You end up picking up a lot of stuff that looks good but not necessarily good for you all at once. You get home and end up eating more than you should and end up getting sick and eventually you get fat.

Most AFCs are so hungry for information that they grab every piece that they come across. They hadn't even identified what part of their game actually need work so they want it all. They take it in all at once and stuff themselves until they get sick. They either get analysis paralysis and become too afraid to go out and try some of the information or they start regurgitating DJ/PUA rules everytime they have an experience with a woman. They throw up so many rules that its stench gets in the way of having any possible progress.

Without figuring out what actually needs immediate work and leaving the rest alone guys will take in way too much information at once. So much information is confusing if you haven't figured out the best situation to use the guidelines (i.e. "Am I supposed to use the 3 second, the 7 hour, the three day, the one week, the first date, the third date or the one month rule?") They end up back in the forum throwing up all these rules in a thread in order to figure out what they need to do next. They're confused, bloated and have rule vomit all over them.

How are they to succeed while being desperately hungry? Unless they restrict their diet they're going to walk around fat and bloated.

 

[guru1000]

You cannot slap a time limit on sex. That is completely ridiculous.

Every sexual relationship is different. The majority of women who have HIGH IL USUALLY spread their legs between the first-third date. This is again a GENERALIZATION, not a RULE to follow.

To put a time limit or guideline for AFC's to follow will inhibit their growth as MEN. AFCs should instead be taught how to recognize and pursue high IL's and NEXT low IL's. This will lead to a mindset of ABUNDANCE rather than SCARCITY.

Sex should not be pursued by MEN. The pursuit of sex itself is AFC. All these posts of "I need to get laid" are rather pathetic and AFC at it's deepest level.

A MAN who is comfortable in his MASCULINITY and OPTIONS knows he can get laid just as easy as a woman. All who may argue this point ( I know a few on here that would) just do not have the options to understand. They are undercover AFC's . These are men that KNOW but operate from a mindset of SCARCITY.

To STATE "I will NExt within X HOURS of no sex" is a direct result of a lack of options. The MAN with the ABUNDANCE MENTALITY could have sex whenever desired thereby never limiting his options on a timetable. He rather enjoys the moment with SEX as the byproduct, not the goal.

Sex only becomes that high of a price to those who are SCARCE.

SCARCITY puts a HOLE in your thinking. This is when you are most susceptible to IDEAS as your CONVICTION is broken. Your desperation and thirst need a QUICK FIX. This is how the "X HOUR RULE" or "3 DAY RULE" originated. And all the SCARCE jumped on the bandwagon creating temporary ARMOR to PROTECT their hearts. When all they needed to learn was with ABUNDANCE you are PROTECTED in options.

REAL MEN do not follow RULES like women in interpersonal interactions. MEN have BOUNDARIES. If the women does not respect that boundary, he walks away.

But a MAN who needs to follow DATING RULES is quite frankly not a MAN.

 

[Mr.Positive]

You cannot slap a time limit on sex. That is completely ridiculous.

This leads to a point that I feel needs stating. Do not take any woman seriously until you've had sex with her. This is the first Mr.P drunken post/rant..

All the games, tests, etc...they don't matter in the beginning. Your job from the get-go, is to decide do I want to sex this gal, or not.

That's it! Easy decision. That should be the only thing on your mind when your first meet her.

If you decide not to bang her, toss her in the friendzone..she may have hot friends for you to want to bang.

Yet...if you decide that you do want to bang her, focus on that. Forget IL, it doesn't matter at this point, you and her have not invested anything yet. High IL..great, low IL OK more of a challenge..that's it. So, have fun an fvck the sh!t out of her.

Then..you can focus on IL, you can pay attention to any sh!t tests she throws your way, then you can then decide to INVEST in this gal. You've lowered her shield, you've had sex with her, now you can decide for yourself what you want out of her, LTR, FWB, or just a gal on side to climb on top of if you get bored..

Point is sex first, then focus on the other sh!t..

 

[lookyoung]

I don't think you could put a time frame on it. Every girl and every situation is different that being said most of the girls will give it up within 3 dates. I would say probably 80% at least if they have a high IL.


If a girl really likes you there are those few occasions were a girl may make you wait longer than 3 dates. She may not be comfortable in her body, She may have had bad sexual experiences. Remember every woman and every situation is different, however a true DJ will know when to escalate and when to pull back if a girl is not willing to sleep with him. He will know this because of EXPERIENCE with woman.


Woman are some of the most insecure creatures in the world. Even a girl that is a 10 will have insecurities about her body. There are a few times were insecurity can play a role in how long it takes for her to sleep with you. Don't take the 3 date rule or any rule on this website too seriously.

Rules don't make your game with woman strong. Experience does.