Time is Money (and vice versa)

[Eljuego]

$100 barely covers dinner for 2, and since I earn $800 per DAY, I can afford it. I just had dinner by myself and it cost $52 with tip for soup, a sandwich and 2 glasses of wine. Like I said, GET A JOB.

...and yet, you're not happy. Something is missing at a deep, fundamental level.

If you feel the need to brag about how much you earn...there's something inside you....unloved. The little boy is screaming out...Love me, accept me, I'm better than you. You can spend all you want on dinner but it's not going to fill that aching hole...

Happiness must come before success. So many people have that backwards.

Here check out Shawn Acher and work on filling that empty hole:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kathycaprino/2013/06/06/how-happiness-directly-impacts-your-success/

and here's something to ponder while your stuffing dessert down your face:
http://www.understandingrelationships.com/does-she-only-like-my-money/9069

 

[Yewki]

$100 barely covers dinner for 2, and since I earn $800 per DAY, I can afford it. I just had dinner by myself and it cost $52 with tip for soup, a sandwich and 2 glasses of wine. Like I said, GET A JOB.

If you start saving up those Earth resources you might be able to afford some modesty and class some day.

j/k you can't actually buy those.

 

[guru1000]

Gentlemen, I don't think the spirit of OP's thread was to brag (although pretentious), but rather to acknowledge that an important attribute of a DJ's life is financial prosperity. Let's not attack the messenger and lose sight of the message.

And Ruler, for such a young man, you are pretty sharp. I have no doubt that when you get older, you will have much financial resources

 

[Peña]

$100 barely covers dinner for 2, and since I earn $800 per DAY, I can afford it. I just had dinner by myself and it cost $52 with tip for soup, a sandwich and 2 glasses of wine. Like I said, GET A JOB.

Not true. Many places you can get good meals for under $100. No need to spend money on a woman that does not deserve it looking to use money as a source for sex when you do not have the other tools to get it. I went with a date to a nice coffee shop once and we both got sandwiches, soup, and a drink for $12. Would spending $52 a piece on the same meal get better results? It would not.

A 44 year old man putting down a 17yr. old DJ to tout off about how much he makes and spends to get bi*ches.

I'm a Buddhist by nature and truly feel sorry that you had to find a forum which seemingly provides you with the means to flex your thoughts of how well you do in life.

Why not just spend more of that $800 a day you make on your quest to pay for more women's affection.

Oh, and at 44, $800 a day really isn't that great. Might I suggest you seek a higher paying job? retirement is right around the corner.

Good one.

Gentlemen, I don't think the spirit of OP's thread was to brag (although pretentious), but rather to acknowledge that an important attribute of a DJ's life is financial prosperity. Let's not attack the messenger and lose sight of the message.

The OP is attacking and insulting the posters in this thread. People who brag about money on a forum or in life has no confidence and has nothing much else than the money they have and why they need to brag since they have nothing else to brag about.

 

[Demonpenz]

I make it rain because I like the way it makes me feel. I have gotten laid without it as well.

 

[zekko]

She lives there free of charge? Seems one sided. I'd say she was getting a free ride. If you were renting a 2 bedroom apartment by yourself and she moved in would you still pay everything?

I see why you say that, but from my viewpoint, it's about maintaining my independence. It's my house, my name is on everything, I own it so I'm paying for it. If we break up my lifestyle won't be impacted at all, that's the way I want it. She helps by buying food, so she does contribute. I don't want to charge her rent because then technically I would have to report that on my taxes. To me, it's about finding a workable alternative to marriage.

Oh, and at 44, $800 a day really isn't that great

It's $208,000 a year, it's not bad, 44 or not. Definitely above average.

 

[ZTIME]

I see why you say that, but from my viewpoint, it's about maintaining my independence. It's my house, my name is on everything, I own it so I'm paying for it. If we break up my lifestyle won't be impacted at all, that's the way I want it. She helps by buying food, so she does contribute. I don't want to charge her rent because then technically I would have to report that on my taxes. To me, it's about finding a workable alternative to marriage.


It's $208,000 a year, it's not bad, 44 or not. Definitely above average.

Actually brother you're right, it's not bad, but to throw it in somebody's face and to try to state that you are better than they are because of your income is "that bad"! Quite frankly I think it's a lie.

As I've stated, my true nature is to be a Buddhist which means I really just walk my own path, but to put down a human because of his income is not called for on this forum.

So for me, and to protect others who may feel bad about their current income levels......it doesn't end at $800 a week. I won't discount what he has done, but please don't knock one of our younger brothers based on your petty income, when somebody your own age could easily double it in one year and not insult anyone here.

You all helped me in my time of need....I promise to return the favor!

 

[zekko]

As I've stated, my true nature is to be a Buddhist which means I really just walk my own path, but to put down a human because of his income is not called for on this forum.

I've always been a big admirer of asceticism, where people try to live their lives with a minimum of material goods, and focus instead on simple things, spiritual matters, and with finding happiness in being. Still, money is nice because it can buy freedom, among other things.

I think what Neil was saying was that he was tired of being insulted for having money by some on this forum. We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and many times those who don't have will dismiss those who do have by saying "That's BETA". I'm not into Neil's diet of strippers, in fact I don't even drink, but to each his own. Some of the guys who stress never spending any money on women can sound a little cheap sometimes, lol.

 

[ZTIME]

I've always been a big admirer of asceticism, where people try to live their lives with a minimum of material goods, and focus instead on simple things, spiritual matters, and with finding happiness in being. Still, money is nice because it can buy freedom, among other things.

I think what Neil was saying was that he was tired of being insulted for having money by some on this forum. We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and many times those who don't have will dismiss those who do have by saying "That's BETA". I'm not into Neil's diet of strippers, in fact I don't even drink, but to each his own. Some of the guys who stress never spending any money on women can sound a little cheap sometimes, lol.

Totally with you on this, and it's not my mission in life to knock what people say on this forum. However, please go back and read the original post. If everyone in the US had to look at their income based on Neil's income, that wouldn't be a good situation to be in. He does do well. Yet to use that to degrade others is not called for.

My mission was to protect the " less then Neil income level" and the remarks about paying for whatever he wants to literally pay for women's affection and hopefully show a different path.

My boy Ruler spends a lot of time offering good advice to those in need. Maybe he doesn't make as much money as Neil, that doesn't make him right.

I just happen to come from a different place of financial means, and I appreciate Rulers posts. If he truly is 17, I bet there's 100 guys that wish they were that smart @ 17.

 

[ZTIME]

You know....It's not in my nature to be so annoyed on a thread. I just kind of took this one personally.

 

[ZTIME]

Ohh.... By the way Zekko, I appreciate what you have to offer to the forum and respect what you have to say. I promise I will never ask about your income!

Much love brother!!

 

[Tenacity]

If there is one thing unemployed and/or broke men love to do, it's to focus on the actual dollar amount spent on a date, and to declare that anyone who spends over a certain amount is "paying for it" and that "she is a wh-ore".

This is a cop out.

In reality, if one man earns $100 an hour, and another man earns $10 an hour, and they both take a girl out and spend $100, the guy making $10 an hour spent TEN TIMES AS MUCH on the date. No wonder he's a bitter little cheapskate. No wonder he won't stop whining about how he can afford dinner. It's not the same thing.

If you're so broke that the cost of HALF a MEAL is a factor in your decision making, you have no right dating anyone period.

Why do you think God made men stronger and women prettier? So the guy could go extract resources from the Earth to give to her in return for her affection. It's called being generous (i.e. GENERATING SOMETHING).

Stop making excuses and get a better job.

I can sum up your post with just two words, "MAN UP," because that's your advice, correct? If a guy doesn't fit the Utility desires of a woman, he should MAN UP so he can fulfill her pleasures, correct?

Lol, this is why Sosuave is confusing to me, because on ONE HAND you guys say you are the Prize to Be Won (DJ Mentality), but then on the other hand, you talk about how you should go and spend hundreds of dollars for a date on a chick that hasn't even fvcked you yet, kissed you yet, and you don't even know will even be speaking to you within 24 hours.

My approach to dates is to ONLY do them with women that are confirmed to be interested in you, and interested in you means she is going to fvck you or has already fvcked you.

Let the "first date" be somewhere free, like a Starbucks, or Panera Bread, or anywhere else that doesn't cost anything. The purpose of the first "date" is to get a feel for each other and see if this chick is actually going to move forward with you or not. If you can't go anywhere that's free, then let it be a very CHEAP lounge somewhere. Basically, spend VERY LITTLE on this first encounter.

After the chick is fvcking you, kissing you, etc., or she's made it known that she's going to do that, then you can look at spending a little something on a date but do not EVER go over $100 combined for a date (your costs and her costs). I usually keep a date at no more than $50 in total (my costs and her costs), so that might be a movie OR a dinner OR a night of bowling. And the dates are very limited, it's not happening every night or 4 times a week.

One thing that I have learned, is that if a chick likes you and she's not high maintenance, she just doesn't "cost" that much. It means you don't have to spend all of this money on stupid a.ss dates, the chick would be happy just sitting on your couch watching Netflix with you drinking a glass of wine.

 

[zekko]

Totally with you on this, and it's not my mission in life to knock what people say on this forum. However, please go back and read the original post. If everyone in the US had to look at their income based on Neil's income, that wouldn't be a good situation to be in. He does do well. Yet to use that to degrade others is not called for.

Look, I agree with you that it is inappropriate to use your income to put others down. I was raised to never disclose your finances to anyone else. I was just pointing out that, in Bigneil's defense, I think in the original post he was reacting to criticism he has received rather than starting it.

On this forum, what is worse? To say "You need to make more money", or "You're a beta"? Calling someone a beta around here is like throwing down the gauntlet, a slap in the face. Even though probably 99% of the guys here actually are betas, lol.

As for his remarks to Ruler, I find it hard to believe that he realized he was talking to a 17 year old. Anyway, maybe in ten years Ruler will be pulling down a million a year, who knows?

 

[bigneil]

Great replies, everyone. My last relationship ended with my investing way too much ($100 per week average), and getting little in return, so I see both sides for sure. At some point, as Louis and Copeland say, we must stand up and say "I expect X for your Y".

However, I still enjoy fancy dinners with my favorite women, so it's not a total loss.

 

[bigneil]

I was raised to never disclose your finances to anyone else. I was just pointing out that, in Bigneil's defense, I think in the original post he was reacting to criticism he has received rather than starting it.

This is popular wisdom, but I think if we posted everyone's salary on the wall, people would be more honest.

 

[Speculator E]

If you're over 30, you need to have the ability to pay. (Most) girls will not forgive an over 30 year old loser. If you're under 30, you get a free pass being a broke college student or something.

Still, $100 is too much to spend on an unproven chick. You should only spend more when she deserve it.

 

[Speculator E]

I can sum up your post with just two words, "MAN UP," because that's your advice, correct? If a guy doesn't fit the Utility desires of a woman, he should MAN UP so he can fulfill her pleasures, correct?

Lol, this is why Sosuave is confusing to me, because on ONE HAND you guys say you are the Prize to Be Won (DJ Mentality), but then on the other hand, you talk about how you should go and spend hundreds of dollars for a date on a chick that hasn't even fvcked you yet, kissed you yet, and you don't even know will even be speaking to you within 24 hours.

My approach to dates is to ONLY do them with women that are confirmed to be interested in you, and interested in you means she is going to fvck you or has already fvcked you.

Let the "first date" be somewhere free, like a Starbucks, or Panera Bread, or anywhere else that doesn't cost anything. The purpose of the first "date" is to get a feel for each other and see if this chick is actually going to move forward with you or not. If you can't go anywhere that's free, then let it be a very CHEAP lounge somewhere. Basically, spend VERY LITTLE on this first encounter.

After the chick is fvcking you, kissing you, etc., or she's made it known that she's going to do that, then you can look at spending a little something on a date but do not EVER go over $100 combined for a date (your costs and her costs). I usually keep a date at no more than $50 in total (my costs and her costs), so that might be a movie OR a dinner OR a night of bowling. And the dates are very limited, it's not happening every night or 4 times a week.

One thing that I have learned, is that if a chick likes you and she's not high maintenance, she just doesn't "cost" that much. It means you don't have to spend all of this money on stupid a.ss dates, the chick would be happy just sitting on your couch watching Netflix with you drinking a glass of wine.

Some advice are coming from an older guy's perspective. While other are coming from younger guys. Old man game is slightly different from young man game.

 

[bigneil]

Good points Speculator E. At 27 I had 17 year old pizza delivery girls delivering for free. At 44, I better be getting them Pizzeria Regina in Boston's North End.

EDIT:

It wasn't until someone tried to say that $100 per date was too much that I noted how much I earn. My main point is: we should talk about how much TIME we spent on a date (earning the money, and with her), not how much MONEY we spent.

To ZTIME - First your wrote "$800 per day isn't that much", and I thought "Wow, Buddhists make a lot these days". But then you wrote "I think it's a lie". Which one is it? Not that much? Or so much that I must be lying?

Regarding discussing salary, how else are people going to know what they might earn someday if everyone keeps their salary secret? I had to work 20 years to get to this level. You say it's inappropriate to discuss, but now you want to see my bank statements so I can prove it? Guys, you can earn $80 - $100 per hour as a software engineer. And by getting paid Corp to Corp (you need a tax ID) and deducting expenses, you can take home $150,000 per year, the after tax equivalent of a $250,000 salary. If anyone knows how to earn more than that (at any age) please let us know how. I won't say you are putting everyone down.

 

[skinnyguy]

I'm looking to take an HB 8 white girl out this week and plan to spend less than $20.

If she likes me she won't care how much the date is

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

$100 barely covers dinner for 2, and since I earn $800 per DAY, I can afford it. I just had dinner by myself and it cost $52 with tip for soup, a sandwich and 2 glasses of wine. Like I said, GET A JOB.

If you earn 800$ per day you are wasting your life in this forum.Thats 16.000$ per month only with 20 work days and almost 200K per year.
I kinda doubt because such people don't sit on relationships forums because with such cash life is just too much fun.